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Gun permit suspended over medication (NY)
WIVB ^ | 09 Apr 2013 | Al Vaughters

Posted on 04/09/2013 9:41:30 PM PDT by neverdem

AMHERST, N.Y. (WIVB) - The NYS SAFE Act is billed as a necessary law to protect the public and keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people.

But Hamburg attorney Jim Tresmond says his client was notified by letter that his gun permit was suspended upon the recommendation of State Police, who learned the man is on anti-anxiety medication.

"Claiming that he had taken some psychotropic medications, and that he no longer could be eligible for the pistol permit," Tresmond said.

The permit holder lives in Amherst and Tresmond accompanied the man as he turned in his seven handguns used for target-shooting to Amherst Police.

"A law-abiding, honest, hard working professional, who never had one wit of scandal associated with him, criminal or otherwise. And they took his guns away," Tresmond said.

Tresmond is one of the attorneys already suing the state over passage of the SAFE ACT, which at the time was the toughest gun control law in the country.

Tresmond says his client once took a prescribed medication for his anxiety but he is not mentally ill. The Amherst man ended his prescription use within the last year.

"He is a law-abiding citizen, no record. He is a stellar member of the community, I would say. Not an ex-felon. He is one of the nicest young men I have met in a long time," Tresmond said.

Officials confirmed state law permits the suspension of a gun permit before the permit holder even gets a chance to state their case.

We have not been able to reach State Police to comment on this case but we do know Erie County officials have only taken action against one pistol permit holder on mental health grounds since the SAFE Act was passed last month.


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1 posted on 04/09/2013 9:41:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Who dropped the dime on this guy to the State Police?

2 posted on 04/09/2013 9:45:23 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: neverdem
his gun permit was suspended upon the recommendation of State Police, who learned the man is on anti-anxiety medication.

Question is, how did they learn? Do we have a violation of HIPPA? Was there due process to remove his right to bear arms? Obviously not.

3 posted on 04/09/2013 9:46:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: neverdem

Welcome to Amerika!

Yes, the question is how did they know? Hopefully, the attorney can find the answer and deep six the SAFE act.

4 posted on 04/09/2013 9:49:30 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: joshua c

And were in the second amendment does it say that you can’t own a gun if you are on anti-anxiety medication.? Restriction, restrictions, restrictions.

5 posted on 04/09/2013 9:51:20 PM PDT by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: neverdem

I KNOW there are many lawmakers that take Xanax, Ativan and other Benzodiazapenes to relax, while flying, or to help them sleep. Add Ambien into the mix because it makes some people do weird things (supposedly, or as his excuse, that’s why that one Kennedy crashed his car) and the NY state Assembly, Senate, Governor and probably US House and Senate members need to turn in all their weapons. I even remember Colin Powell and Hillary talking about taking Benzos or Ambien to try and get enough sleep when constantly traveling. Wish I could remember the link. This is BS. You don’t just give Xanax or the like to seriously mentally ill people that are going to shoot people, if you do that’s malpractice.

6 posted on 04/09/2013 9:56:25 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: neverdem

Does the man get his guns back upon satisfying the requirements for gun ownership (I can’t believe I am asking this question)? Or, do they run their police cars over the barrels and render them destroyed.

7 posted on 04/09/2013 9:59:33 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: neverdem
Give every kid a Ritalin pill and wala, they'll never legally own a gun for life.
"We'll have to pass it to know what's in it". Unelected political regulators is what.
8 posted on 04/09/2013 10:04:18 PM PDT by MaxMax
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There are a lot of Freepers that agree with this.

They are the ones blaming the mass shootings on these meds.

I do not agree with this. It’s cowardly. It’s another path that the communists are taking to implement their agenda.

And, note that the police are fully cooperating with this.

9 posted on 04/09/2013 10:05:36 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: MacMattico
To take Xanax for Anxiety you have to understand some basics. It doesn't take a maximum dosage to work. For a man lets say 200 pounds .5mg {a half a mg} three - four times a day suffices. 2MG twice a day is not going to work but 12 out of 24 hours in a day.

I'm an 18 year G.A.D patient due to Vestibular and Optic sensory processing disorders. I'm an 18 year user of Xanax. My wife is a 28 year user of Xanax for Anxiety. An antidepressant for someone with this type of General Anxiety Disorder can have bad results. I've seen the worse an antidepressant can do to someone short of death. It happened to my wife when a doctor tried her on antidepressants.

My medical records and hers have Allergic to Antidepressants in them. Ironically Benzodiazapenes is the protocol antidote to stop an adverse reaction antidepressants can cause called Serotonin Syndrome.

10 posted on 04/09/2013 10:07:26 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: neverdem

Come and get em boys, but remember it is my duty as a citizen to shot you on sight as an enemy of the constitution and the free state.

11 posted on 04/09/2013 10:10:54 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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I think the NYS SAFE Act goes to the Supreme Court sooner rather than later.

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12 posted on 04/09/2013 10:11:12 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Well, ladies and germs, that IS the point of gun registration, background "checks" and gun permits each and every time a gun is purchased. In North Carolina, a form has to be filed with the sheriff's office with a fee paid, waiting time for its approval, a background check and THEN you are approved to buy a gun. BUT WAIT! go to the gun store, present your permit and they sell you a gun after more forms are completed, BUT...if you change your mind and decide later you want to return the gun and get a different one, you cannot reuse the original permit. A new one must be filled out at the sheriff's office, another fee paid and all the checks redone!

Our local gun store even said that if I came in with my husband, who has a CCP (which, if you have a concealed carry permit, you don't need a new separate permit for new gun purchases), and he bought a gun and turned to me - in the store - handed me the gun and said, "Happy birthday, honey!", the store would have to cancel the sale. They are not allowed to let that happen. There's nothing they can do if he waits until we get in the car to give it to me, but they could be put out of business if they knowingly allowed someone to buy a gun for another person who doesn't have a permit.

What the dorks can't seem to understand is that criminals NEVER get a gun the legal way. Law-abiding, regular citizens are the ones who get prevented from being able to defend themselves, their families and homes. Now, it looks like people who take certain medications either currently or in the past are being denied the right to own a gun. If I were that guy, I would NOT have turned in my guns! Allowing the state to have that kind of power over the citizen is tantamount to tyranny! One day it's possible mental issues due to medication and the next day it's religious beliefs. It won't be long before NOBODY (legal, that is) will be allowed to have a gun. Is that what we really want?

13 posted on 04/09/2013 10:16:47 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: neverdem

I think they are looking to use any excuse to deprive people of the right to gun ownership.

14 posted on 04/09/2013 10:42:41 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: boatbums

To be fair (why?!!??) to criminals, I can’t think of a bank robber, or home invader are known to have done mass shootings of innocent people. The shooter in colorado was a university student. Columbine shooter was a high school student. Virginia Tech was another student. The most recent mass shooting at Sandy Hook was a 20 year old with mental problem. The person who shot the congresswoman did not have a criminal record using guns. Even the Jihadist Muslim who shot soldiers in a military base was not a bank robber type criminal.

It is obvious mental problem is what causes mass murders with guns. It will be impossible to weed out every mental candidate in country by background checks.

The only solution which will work is more people with CCP’s and trained guards/teachers at schools.

15 posted on 04/09/2013 10:48:30 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Republican1795.

Passed enough laws, and we are all criminals without even knowing it.

16 posted on 04/09/2013 10:50:45 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: headstamp 2

They may be going through pharmacy records and checking against gun permits.

17 posted on 04/09/2013 11:13:31 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: neverdem
Almost a clone, you could almost be sure he would look something like this.

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18 posted on 04/09/2013 11:19:25 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: neverdem

Any leos on these meds will have to give up their weapons.

19 posted on 04/09/2013 11:34:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone (A nation's electoral process is as free and fair as its press.)
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To: neverdem

This is pure bullcrap! I use a .25 occasionally .5 Xanax to help me rest now and then due to a sleep disorder and I’ll be damned if they want to take away my guns because of it! That is discrimination, period. I would venture to guess that half the population is on some kind of mood enhancer whether it be anti-depressants, anti-anxiety, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine etc. People are not going to be perfect, ever, and the second amendment was not made with “perfect” people in mind either.

20 posted on 04/09/2013 11:53:32 PM PDT by kelly4c (
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