Skip to comments.North Korea on the Edge
Posted on 04/10/2013 5:41:07 AM PDT by IbJensen
Yesterday, North Korean officials warned foreigners in South Korea to leave that country. Today, the foreign ministers of the Group of Eight (G8) countriesthe United States, Britain, Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Germany, and Italyare meeting in London to discuss North Koreas threats.
Americans are taking notice. CNN reports that more than four in 10 Americans in a new poll say they see the reclusive nation as an immediate threat to the United States Thats up 13 percentage points in less than a month.
Heritages experts have been following the threats closelyin fact, senior research fellow Bruce Klingner, formerly the CIA branch chief for Korea, warned of the growing risk of a clash in late March.
Klingner says in his latest paper this week that the escalating threats are new and more dangerous:
Perhaps most worrisome is that the regimes threat du jour is occurring so rapidly. In the past, Pyongyang would issue a threat and then allow Washington and its allies time to respond, preferably by offering benefits to buy its way back to the status quo ante. The current rapid-fire threats conflict with previous North Korean behavior and reduce the potential for de-escalating the crisis.
A few things to note:
North Korea is capable of firing missiles.
Heritages Michaela Dodge warns that North Korea can already hit Hawaii, parts of Alaska, and California. It can also hit U.S. forward-deployed troops in South Korea, Japan, and Guam While the Obama Administration does not believe that North Korea is capable of hitting the U.S. with a nuclear weapon, the U.S. has a history of underestimating North Koreas ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs.
The U.S. has already responded to the threatsbut more commitment to missile defense is needed.
The United States has sent nuclear-capable B-2 and B-52 bombers, F-22 fighters, and Aegis destroyers to South Korea. The Obama Administration reversed just a few of its harmful cuts to missile defense, now that the President realizes those defenses might be needed. But at the same time, the Administration has cut half a billion dollars from missile defense. This is the wrong direction to take.
Diplomacy doesnt work with Kim Jong-un.
Klingner recommends tough sanctions against North Korea and others violating U.N. resolutions. The U.S. should resist the siren song of engaging North Korea in talks, while backing up our allies with a sustained show of force.
We cant afford to be wrong. As Klingner says:
North Korea is easy to ridicule
Its leader could well play the villain in a James Bond or Austin Powers movie. Self-appointed ambassador Dennis Rodmans visit affirmed the image of the reclusive regime as the ultimate reality show. As such, the tendency has been to dismiss all North Korean threats as bluster. That would be a mistake.
If you're capable of understanding this, and all legitimate Freepers are capable while trolls aren't, then thank Democrats Harry S (for nothing) Truman and the current looney DINO Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama for their wimpish behavior towards this tiny evil country.
There should be NO North Korea and no Kim Jong-un. His ancestors would have been obliterated in General MacArthur's campaign to decisively win the Korean WAR.
The other 6 said, what's a Korea?
“.. the tendency has been to dismiss all North Korean threats as bluster. That would be a mistake.”
And this thread will be overwhelmed with silly comments, photos, etc.
Whistling past the graveyard.
North Korea is a threat only when we have Democrat control of the White Hut. Once back in the Oval Office, a Republican President can and has stuffed China’s attack Yorkie back into its pen.
North Korea could not prevail more than a very short period in any offensive they may take against South Korea and the US. Kim Jong-Un is the kid who came to school with a Colt .45 pistol with one cartridge in the chamber, and no magazine.
I guess shaking down the other kids in school for their lunch money wasn’t proving sufficiently effective.
The Chinese could end this in ten minutes and one phone call. But why should they? The West is economically on the ropes, and with just a few more body blows, China becomes the successor state to the position the United States seems so willing to relinquish.
I guess we’ll see if the NK’s launch a missle today like they said they would.
They are some 11 hours ahead of EDT so it is already April 10, 10:13 PM there. Un's window of launch on the 10th of April is rapidly closing.
IMHO, a more likely launch date would be April 15th - the birth date of Kim Il Sung.
New world order’s news media has been pumping this story for weeks.
New world order is the instigator behind all 20th century wars.
As a die-hard American whose ancestors fought in American wars, learning about new world order certainly struck a blow to my view of history, which was that which was pushed into my brain by new world order’s (the foundation system) public schools.
New world order people have been the foreign policy advisors, espionage experts and the leadership of the international banking community that government leaders need in order to float sovereign debt, i.e., the people who financially enable governments - for centuries.
Presidents and legislatures don’t make the “real” decisions. The real decisions are made by new world order, outside of any government, then nwo advisors who have the ear of national leaders advise them into putting nwo desires into effect.
This is why key figures in the news media industry are members and directors of CFR, which is the group through which new world order controls US foreign policy thinking.
The highest echelons of international communism are right here in America, both inside and outside of the government. And international communism is wholeheartedly supported by new world order. In spite of my being against international communism, I realize that it is run from the UK and America and many of their political leadership are actually communists (while those politicians “in the know” to some extent, at least, would more precisely be described as new world order), which is why so much business is given to communist China. And in no way do I want Americans to fight and die because a few conniving SOB’s who have all the influence with government leaders, the media and education want to “play” at creating a war.
NK under the management of the Kims can’t feed itself, and the real reason the NK general public would support a war against the US to any extent is because of internal NK propaganda and fear. We’re really only seeing in the news the propaganda of a tiny percentage of the NK population that is its leadership - which is subservient to new world order even if it does not fully understand it. Having a “war” with NK is a nonsensical thought, as their lack of logistics would inevitably make it a proxy war with China. And so far the leadership of China has been smart enough to see that such a war for them would be a waste of money, as the only possible prize, SK, would cost too high a price given that China already gets plenty of trade with the US (SK is not able to block this trade), and a war would be greatly complicated by China’s resource import requirements (the same limiting factor Hitler had). And new world order would not want to see America or China lose (as we recall the outcome of the Korean War was that neither side admitted defeat publicly). The alternative for China is simply to continue their economic growth that is being enabled by new world order international finance, and that alternative allows continued slow, methodical consolidation of Asia into one government by new world order foreign policy and domestic political trickery, foreign trade, treaties, etc.
The purpose NK serves for new world order is to keep up the remains of the Communist-West cold war. Public opinion in NK and SK prevents the quick consolidation of these two countries, though new world order undoubtedly sees a potential path to consolidation via a contained regional war that was “spun” the right way in China, the US, NK and SK. The SK public clearly has to be convinced to suck it up and lower their standard of living and, unlike East and West Germany at wall-fall time, the SK public is apparently not ready for that. Clearly in the case of Germany, backroom dealing was done by new world order to “guide” the governments of US and Russia; one can only presume that the same kind of dealing would have to be done by China and the US in the Korean case (which is different in that NK’s rulers are different that East Germany’s).
In the US, the “conservative” branch of the new world order political machinery keeps the American political right resolutely refusing to open up to normalizing relations with NK - though the leadership of the political right expresses only symbolic reservation at trading hundreds of billions worth of business with communist China every year. Keeping NK on the list of “enemies” that the right is “guided” into seeing as the “bad guys” which necessitates vigilant spending on the defense industries that new world order has always been invested heavily in and are a key part of their overall strategy (without massive enemies, massive defense spending would seem pointless; without massive defense spending, deficits and their associated borrowing from new world order international finance would more difficult to sustain). After the Soviet collapse, new world order realized that a new enemy had to be created for the US, ergo we see a variety of new foes taking their place: terrorism, the environment, etc., an ointment of many flies of which NK is just one.
It’s exactly like a playground full of children, with two camps that oppose each other, and a very small group that keeps instigating fights between them. Once everyone is aware of the instigators, they can be stopped. That is not to say there will be no more fights, but just that particular source of fights will be eliminated. Well, unless it regroups and starts up again.
The real - and only - enemy America should declare war on is new world order, the real war criminals, but a majority of Americans must learn about what’s really been going on before that can happen.
You are correct. Not too many years ago I thought it was a bunch of conspiracy BS about the NWO, including CFR, Bilderbergers, bankers etc.. Then after 9/11 I watched Bush leave the southern borders open, instead of locking down the country. I wondered WTF? That started to open my eyes.
I now appreciate our Constitution more than ever, and see that it was intended to be a firewall against the NWO and others of that ilk. I guess that’s why it has to be trashed and ignored the way it is by so many “conservative” elected officials.
I think our only hope is some of our states who are passing laws to protect their sovereign integrity, currency etc.. I hope it isn’t too late for my grandchildren’s sake.
Therefore, we must sadly assume that North Korea is capable of hitting the United States with a nuclear weapon. Given the Regime's palpable level of incompetence on security matters, it would seem to be the prudent belief.
I’ve just started wading through this book by Gary North which is opening my eyes to even more issues. You all might be interested
Thanks. I was wondering what the time difference was between here and there. So far so good. I’m still here. :-)
..................”The Chinese could end this in ten minutes and one phone call. But why should they? The West is economically on the ropes, and with just a few more body blows, China becomes the successor state to the position the United States seems so willing to relinquish”.........
Yes indeed..the Chinese are playing this with much more to win or loose than the US...and they are playing it more than just careful. The “price” will be very high for them to hand over Kim Un’s dynasty and their buffer zone. But it is doable if the “Price” is right.
Because they have the most to lose?
Most are aware, few are in the dark about the agenda for a New World Order. But it won't matter if known or not..the push is on and there is frankly nothing any can do to stop it.
All of the nations’ leaderships are on board, as are those in the wings ready to assume positions. There's a reason why Gadaffi and Marbarak aren't there...they wouldn't play the game..and they are now gone...same with Syria.
Do you think Hillary and Billy Boy have been traveling the International circuit because they care about the US? They , like all leadership, are positioning themsleves for the leadership positions within the NWO...and money will be the calling card to get in at the top levels, why do you think they're going after all the Industries and Places where the most money flows?.... ...The game is on the world stage and “People” can do no more than have tantrums enough to get the next pacifier they put in their mouth to shut them down...and it works. They give us enough “wins” but simply proceed with the agenda at hand until the next tantrum.
It's comforting to “think” “the people” have a say...but that simply is not the reality both nationally here and internationally.
They won’t loose, you can be certain of that.
One interesting error is the gold standard, which enslaves the government to having to acquire gold in order to create money. Thus, government, while escaping borrowing from the banking cartel, comes back to the same banking cartel to buy gold. Few people understand that. Few realize that the Chicago school / Austrian school, though they have many correct thoughts (thus seeming to be the sought-after truth) were also initially set up by the same international banking interests to frame the “other side” of the debt money argument.
Few understand that the only reason gold was useful to governments in times past as a material to construct money out of was because it was difficult for the private sector to acquire and therefore served the function of inhibiting the private sector creating counterfeit money.
If countermeasures to counterfeiting are not taken, a nation winds up with less work being done, i.e., lower total productive output, and inordinately large amounts of counterfeit money circulating, which adds up to a recipe for very high inflation (more money chasing fewer goods).
Meanwhile, blamed on the sequestration, 17 divisions of the Air Force of the USA are being gounded.
Does Obama expect the divers & Navy seals to be the ones to go after N Korea???
He couldn’t even play a good game of ‘Battleship’, IMO.
Tax day for Americans!!
Aren’t they suppose to set us up the bomb today?
The North is laughing at the response by South Korea. Not so much as one shot fired and there begging China and Russia to intervene.
Any of us here could whip his ass at checkers, let alone Battleship. That game requires players to exercise their memories and that means moving the grey cells around in our skulls.