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Detroit shows way to beat inner city blues (A nascent turnaround is slowly blooming)
Financial Times ^ | 04/10/2013 | Richard Florida

Posted on 04/10/2013 6:26:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Detroit, in the minds of many people, looks like something from the film Gran Torino, in which Clint Eastwood’s retired car worker defiantly manicures his lawn and flies an American flag as the city around him descends into chaos. With its fraying social fabric and the imposition of an emergency manager to cope with its collapsing finances, it would be easy to argue a city that was a global centre of carmaking and musical innovation 50 years ago has passed the point of no return.

Easy, yes; but wrong. Detroit’s days as a manufacturing powerhouse – like those of many industrial cities in America, Europe and elsewhere – are irrevocable. But its downtown is rebounding, thanks to the kind of central location, affordable property, improved efficiency and productivity also bringing people and businesses back to struggling former industrial hubs such as Cleveland and Pittsburgh.

Thousands of residents, including designers, techies and music makers, have moved to Detroit’s old central business district. They are drawn, to borrow a phrase from Jane Jacobs’ 1961 work, The Death and Life of Great American Cities, to the old buildings new ideas require. More than 40 per cent of the young adults living there are university educated, according to a recent report, compared with 11 per cent for the city as a whole, 29 per cent for the state of Michigan and 31 per cent for the nation. The urban centre is home to more than 600 new companies and draws 10.5m visitors to its leisure attractions each year.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: detroit; innercity

1 posted on 04/10/2013 6:26:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This article somehow doesn’t pass the sniff test.


2 posted on 04/10/2013 6:33:20 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: SeekAndFind

According to his own site, Mister Florida is an “Urbanist, Author, Professor, Researcher, Talker, Bike Rider, Guitar Player”

Well, Isn’t that just so special? Detroit is in a turnaround.....if this weren’t so patently ludicrous it would be funny.

You see and hear this push/prod wishful thinking every damned day from so-called experts on the Radio, TV and in Print. Usually, they have some sort of vested interest like the dweeb here in Atlanta that just can’t find anything bad to say about unemployment, the stock market or the economy.

If you dig far enough, you’ll invariably find some sort of vested interest that precludes them from making any ‘expert’ opinion or from giving advice.

This spew isn’t even worth the trouble posting it.


3 posted on 04/10/2013 6:34:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

I just knew the yuppies would come through and save Detroit.


4 posted on 04/10/2013 6:40:15 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Gaffer

Yeah, they will turn Detroit around selling each other Lattes, overpriced “ art” and publishing Blogs about what hip urban pioneers they are....


5 posted on 04/10/2013 6:45:40 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Absolutely. “Affordable property”? Hahahaha.


6 posted on 04/10/2013 6:48:45 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: count-your-change

They move out too once the kids start coming.


7 posted on 04/10/2013 6:49:38 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SeekAndFind
Detroit Turnaround


8 posted on 04/10/2013 6:53:29 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Gaffer

I would guess gay is implied?


9 posted on 04/10/2013 6:53:33 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: BlueStateRightist

This is a common dream for urban planner types. They shout from the rooftops that ‘people are coming back to the city’....but its only after buildings are abandoned and rents are so low, that ‘young’ and ‘artsy’ and ‘hip’ people move in and make the city ‘vibrant’.

But its not a real recovery. The rents will stay low, and real estate values will stay static. And these ‘young people’ aren’t true consumers that drive an economy.

Somebody will renovate some building into ‘lofts’...some kid will open up a new art gallery, alot of people will carry coffee cups around and perfect their hipster look...

But the housing market, tax base, industrial base, rental market, and just about every metric you can think of is upside-down in Detroit, and will be for a long time.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 6:53:53 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: BlueStateRightist
Detroit’s days as a manufacturing powerhouse – like those of many industrial cities in America, Europe and elsewhere – are irrevocable.

The pollyanna tone certainly makes it seem unbelievable. But editing like this does not help either. Irrevocable???

11 posted on 04/10/2013 6:54:19 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Gaffer
If you dig far enough, you’ll invariably find some sort of vested interest that precludes them from making any ‘expert’ opinion or from giving advice.

A little digging unearths an enthusiastic vote for Obama every time...

12 posted on 04/10/2013 6:54:35 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They should change their name to Phoenix if they can get something out of those ashes.


13 posted on 04/10/2013 6:57:48 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not so ridiculous as everyone here is making it out. Detroit has become a pet project for liberals; the rock-bottom real-estate makes it super-affordable to live in; is it really open-carry? That would help people feel safer moving in.

Come on, guys: Buy low, sell high is the mantra for capitalism. It’d be kinda goofy if only liberals recognized that. Is Detriot a basket-case; yes, and it has been for so long that its basket-case status has been priced in by everyone. Is Detroit ever going to be a capitol for capitalism, literally driving the American economy again? No way in hell. Is it a potentially savvy investment for some? Maybe. Can conditions for those stuck there improve? They can’t get worse.


14 posted on 04/10/2013 7:02:52 AM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Possibly, I don’t know for sure. But I’d be willing to hazard a guess that this ‘urbanite’ doesn’t spend much time in Detroit proper at night. If he does, it’s from one protected zone to another.

You see this kind of hip-urban white guy/girl crap in Atlanta sometimes...there are enclaves where they live, little islands of protected isolationism and they (the inhabitants) just have a gay old time.

It’s when one ventures outside that area they are brought to reality.

I get email blasts every week from a major university here in downtown Atlanta (required by Federal Law) about some mugging, rape or worse on its students who live near the campus. Sometimes two or three on a weekend.

In this country today, despite the bleats of these people like the writer of the article, there is nothing urbane about urban life in America. To the contrary, it is often a lesson in devolvement and the utter inhumaneness of its denizens.


15 posted on 04/10/2013 7:03:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dangus

And what kind of real estate do you own there you’re trying to sell?


16 posted on 04/10/2013 7:06:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Not only that, the enclaves are only safe during the day.

Cities are designed for one scenario: Armed gangsters and unarmed victims. Mothers will vote for people who keep their aspiring rappers from being killed while they rob people.


17 posted on 04/10/2013 7:12:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Musicians and artists, the pillars of an economy, to the rescue...


18 posted on 04/10/2013 7:17:01 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, I would go to Detroit to see the “leisure attractions”. You can wish that Detroit will change, but you can’t change those Detroit winters.


19 posted on 04/10/2013 7:17:05 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Wasn’t everyone “shocked” that Canada Jenny sprinted for the west coast when her term was up?:


20 posted on 04/10/2013 7:19:59 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: lacrew

The artists make so little money that they need nearly free housing and work space. These hipsters are slightly better than squatters who live off public benefits.


21 posted on 04/10/2013 7:28:11 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Good things are happening in Detroit and conservatives need to wise up and seize the opportunity that has presented itself.

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22 posted on 04/10/2013 7:34:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a hipster bunch there moving in

Drawn by cheap space and community of themselves

Way early to tell how it goes

And completely surrounded by serious zombies


23 posted on 04/10/2013 7:38:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: SeekAndFind

The movie industry just flits from freebies to freebies. Once they find a better deal they will be gone.


24 posted on 04/10/2013 7:38:27 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Without Life nothing else matters.)
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To: lacrew
This is a common dream for urban planner types. They shout from the rooftops that ‘people are coming back to the city’....but its only after buildings are abandoned and rents are so low, that ‘young’ and ‘artsy’ and ‘hip’ people move in and make the city ‘vibrant’.

This looks like the typical new urbanism article: "All the cool kids are moving back downtown. You should be forced to do it to." How many of those same "cool kids" will sprint back to the suburbs as soon as they have a baby and start thinking about schools or their kids playing out in the street.

25 posted on 04/10/2013 7:45:34 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind
One Hilarious Show
26 posted on 04/10/2013 7:49:53 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: SeekAndFind
Statistics say that the number of white people in Detroit under the age of 65 is about 50,000.

That is very, very far from critical mass.

For comparison Newark, NJ has about the same numbers of the same demographic in a city half the size.

27 posted on 04/10/2013 8:10:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: lacrew

Spot on!


28 posted on 04/10/2013 8:25:39 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats still run the place. eom.


29 posted on 04/10/2013 8:38:36 AM PDT by DManA
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To: dangus

Is that you, Mayor Bing?


30 posted on 04/10/2013 8:57:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I could see Detroit being a draw for producers of movies about armageddon, urban decay, failed liberal policies...

Oh, what am I saying??? Movie producers marketing in truth?


31 posted on 04/10/2013 9:00:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
The pollyanna tone certainly makes it seem unbelievable. But editing like this does not help either. Irrevocable???

Yeah, I had to read that sentence a few times to figure out that he meant the *history* of those days is what's irrevocable. The memory would be "irrevocable" if the crime hadn't driven out all of the producers with the memories, leaving the slag who don't remember anything except for the drugs and the great times they had in the '60's burning the place down.

I think the writer was just throwing around $10 words to impress the reader. It's pretty common in the financial media.

32 posted on 04/10/2013 9:03:44 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: BlueStateRightist

33 posted on 04/10/2013 9:07:15 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ScottinVA

RE: I could see Detroit being a draw for producers of movies about armageddon, urban decay, failed liberal policies...

We have films about the apocalyptic future made earlier with titles like ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK and ESCAPE FROM L.A.

We can make a similar film about Detroit and the setting could be in the present.


34 posted on 04/10/2013 9:11:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: ScottinVA
Is that you, Mayor Bing?

Guess again...

35 posted on 04/10/2013 9:12:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dangus

I looked it up and was a bit surprised you can open-carry in Detroit proper. I was not surprised to read the cops *will* stop you and harass you every time “to make sure you understand the law.” (Hey Officer brainiac, I’m carrying aren’t I? Then I know the law well enough.) LEOs there are the same as everywhere else: They’ll knowingly lie to the citizens and break the law if they think they can get away with it.

I was disappointed to read Tasers are illegal in MI.


36 posted on 04/10/2013 9:14:07 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: lacrew
The author is a professor - - an economist and social scientist - - who teaches in Canada and pushes his theory about the "creative class".
37 posted on 04/10/2013 9:16:18 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

He probably lives in a gated community.


38 posted on 04/10/2013 9:19:41 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

No gated communities in Canada. No need for them either.


39 posted on 04/10/2013 9:56:58 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Oh....Canada

Mr. Google shows me there are gated communities in Canada.


40 posted on 04/10/2013 10:05:37 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Gaffer

I bet he’s very careful about where he rides his bike and plays his guitar and does his urbanizing.


41 posted on 04/10/2013 10:12:01 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: dangus
"They can’t get worse."

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, ever say that. Things can ALWAYS get worse. I learned that the hard way.

42 posted on 04/10/2013 10:38:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: lacrew

Really? I wasn’t aware of any. Probably in the ‘burbs.


43 posted on 04/10/2013 12:28:50 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL! Each and every one of those “nevers” were worthwhile, too!


44 posted on 04/10/2013 1:40:30 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: Gaffer

>> And what kind of real estate do you own there you’re trying to sell? <<

Anything. All these damned hippies moving next door are worse than the crack dens. Just kidding; I don’t live or own property anywhere near Michigan.


45 posted on 04/10/2013 1:42:16 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: dangus

I was a bit worried I might be wasting JimRob’s bandwith with it, but I thought it was important to emphasize. I just well remember the time the words, “It can’t get any worse” came out my mouth. I was quite depressed and had just been through a distressing ordeal...

Turned out it was like rolling down a bumpy, 100-foot hill. What I didn’t know was that 100-foot hill was atop Mount Everest, and I was about to keep on rollin’... right down to the Marianas Trench. I learned never say that phrase “can’t” ever again. Remember when a lot of us said that with Bubba ? We learned.


46 posted on 04/10/2013 2:02:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: dangus

I notice when they run ads for Michigan tourism (and we get them down in Tennessee), they just show the beaches and lakes way north in the U.P. They’d be nuts to emphasize Motown. Sadly, the latter is the perception for most folks outside the state.


47 posted on 04/10/2013 2:07:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have been hearing this crap about the young urban educated saving Detroit since the late sixties when the hippies took over Plumb Street and sold bongs and incense to white suburbanites.

Here is the truth: Detroit stood in the post war era as a Colossus of manufacturing. Europe was flat on its back and Asia was a basket case.

If you wanted a car or a stove or most anything manufactured you came to Detroit. Unions and Corporate Detroit never thought the rest of the world would recover and they signed contracts that reflected this distorted view of life.

Then: the riots. 1967 was the beginning of the end.

It will never be what it was because it was a distorted market.

48 posted on 04/10/2013 4:21:25 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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