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North Korea Prepares to Launch Missile (Fuel Loaded, Weapon on the Pad: Upgrade to Watchcon 2)
ABC News Nightline ^ | 1 hour ago | Bob Woodruff

Posted on 04/10/2013 7:13:05 PM PDT by drewh

Tonight there's urgent new evidence that north korea is ready to launch a missile at any hour, any moment, a show of force, a defiant test of world reaction. ABC news has been told that the fuel has been loaded. The missile is on the pad.

And our bob woodruff is in south korea to bring us more details right now. Reporter: The top u. S.

Defense official responded to kim jong-un'sising rhetoric today. North korea's actions have been skating very close to a dangerous line. Reporter: There is some anxiety growing on the streets and in the subways of seoul amid south korean news reports than emergency threat levels jumped to watchcon-2, which is one step away from war.

Even as koreans went about their daily routines, young koreans have lived through endless propaganda and missile tests for decades. Now even they are starting to wonder about kim jong-un. He is very crazy.

Reporter: He's crazy? Parents are getting nervous. Sae jung kim told me for the first time in this conflict tomorrow, she will not take her son to kindergarten.

Any strike, anywhere else, i want my kids to be with me. Reporter: Even if that happens, that missile would be mid range called muse dan. Never before tested.

Powerful enough to travel 2,000 miles putting us bases in okinawa or guam within its reach. Moving patriots missiles into position around tokyo.

The danger here is kim jong-un has ramped up the tension to such a point that even the smallest action could provoke a larger fight, a war or significant military clash. Reporter: As for timing, most believe this launch will happen sometime this week because next monday is kim jong-un's grandfather's birthday. On that day, most of these launches have happened in the morning

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; japan; korea; nkorea; northkorea; obama; russia; waronterror
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To: Drill Thrawl

Hollywood obliterated would make a bigger change to America. Might even see the surviving hollywierdos doing patriotic material again!


51 posted on 04/10/2013 7:51:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: drewh

Hmmmm....wondering if I should feel similar to the feelings during the Cuban Missile Crisis.....


52 posted on 04/10/2013 7:53:16 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I was referring the the reactors that were negotiated through the IAEA with former president Carter during Clinton’s reign.

After looking at the chronology of it all it I see your point.


53 posted on 04/10/2013 7:54:47 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: BobL

You were intentionally listening to Geraldo. Did you lose a bet?


54 posted on 04/10/2013 7:55:45 PM PDT by mykroar (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.-Thomas Paine)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Who is North Koreas ally besides China? Look at the big picture. If North Korea launches and we don’t do anything about it, what is Europe going to do without a missile defense and these missiles in Irans hands?

There is a big picture here. The Norks know we are not going to war with them. And Obama knows that this pivot takes everyone’s mind off the budget the, the weapons ban, illegal immigration and he gets to blame the Republicans for not protecting the country due to the sequester.


55 posted on 04/10/2013 7:56:06 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: BenLurkin

Good cartoon. Many joke about Kim shee dumb NOKO boy as some nit wit. Not me.

The MSM is clueless and dismissive.
Our Resident is a proven Illegal Marxist.
Our DOD is managed by Hagelian boobs.
Our CIA is managed by a Moslem in drag Brennan.
Our SOS served in Viet Nam and colluded with the enemy.
Our military is castrated, feminized & queered up.
American people are ignorant at best and pitifully stupid.

Such foul blind arrogance. NOKO will do what no one expects simply because they are desperate crazy. Not stupid.


56 posted on 04/10/2013 7:56:31 PM PDT by Broker (Obama, the devils fart.)
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To: BushCountry

I don’t think anybody will let Seoul fall.


57 posted on 04/10/2013 7:56:37 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: drewh
Kim Jong-un thăm đơn vị bắn rơi máy bay Mỹ

"Ruts happenin hawrt stuff?"

58 posted on 04/10/2013 7:58:43 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: BobL

My post about the strength of their army brings up another point, “Can America really fight a great war?” The liberals have weaken the mindset of our youth and decimated the military. I serious doubt we can fight a Korean scale war especially with our current president at the helm.

Everything shifted to house-to-house fighting and drones. The number of Americans with backbone is sadly depleted. Heck, a small child making a gun shape with his/her hands gets suspended and force counseling. No one fights for their principles, what happens if this thing goes south.


59 posted on 04/10/2013 7:59:41 PM PDT by BushCountry (What does it matter now!!)
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To: BobL
so I just hope that they strike a Blue City (or state).

Their missiles are aimed at Texas! Hah!

60 posted on 04/10/2013 7:59:44 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: txhurl

A partial orbital EMP is more dangerous and possible than folks are being led to believe.


61 posted on 04/10/2013 8:01:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: mykroar

“You were intentionally listening to Geraldo. Did you lose a bet?”

LOL. Actually he was VERY GOOD on the radio - a lot of Rush qualities, where he treated everyone really kind and polite, let his opponents talk, and then stated what he believed - and in that interview, it was with John Bolton, so at the end, he simply said that we see different and must agree to disagree.

Very, very, rare for a leftist to behave that way - usually they are so filled with PURE HATE that they cannot help themselves, but Geraldo, I guess, reserved his hatred for the evil defense contractors - not his guests or callers.


62 posted on 04/10/2013 8:01:31 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BushCountry

That’s a big concern of mine. If we lost 5000 soldiers in a day, what would that do to the media? the politicians? the voters? the top military brass? Once upon a time we took that and moved on — we understood the cost of war. Today? I think we’d fall apart.


63 posted on 04/10/2013 8:02:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

“Their missiles are aimed at Texas! Hah!”

Austin...a Blue City. And his missiles are VERY ACCURATE, so if he really aims at Austin, he will take it out...and most of Texas is sick to death of that bunch anyway.


64 posted on 04/10/2013 8:03:51 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BushCountry

Don’t know if we can fight...but it’s hard to tell what kind of war we will be in. It’s hard to see a war of ground battles...but then we thought ground battles were over at the end of WW2 (LOL).


65 posted on 04/10/2013 8:05:03 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: drewh
All this was due to Stephanopoulos disrespectfulness towards Kim's man Rodman, lol.


66 posted on 04/10/2013 8:09:41 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: drewh

Important note: liquid fuel is both extremely toxic and corrosive, so if not used immediately by the missile must be pumped back out within a day or two. Even then, it can only be pumped in a limited number of times before the tanks are effectively degraded.

Those who pump the fuel in or out have to wear close to spacesuits to do it, and even the slightest spark could be disastrous, to no conductive tools are permitted around the missile or fuel.

With NKor missiles, fueling them almost certainly means they are going to be launched.


67 posted on 04/10/2013 8:11:10 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Don’t worry Hagel sternly told them they were being bad. No launch will happen and they are going to disarm their nukes.


68 posted on 04/10/2013 8:14:46 PM PDT by BushCountry (What does it matter now!!)
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To: drewh

Most believe they do not have the range for east of HI.

Lil Kim has already given “intent” to strike. Normal ROE would provide for an attack once we receive indications and warnings (I&W). Once we receive I&W, we should strike the active launchers and broadcast our intent to continue strikes unless they stand down.

BUT.....what if their satellite in LEO, is a nuke and is triggered at 300NM over D.C. and NY in the 17?

http://www.n2yo.com/passes/?s=39026


69 posted on 04/10/2013 8:15:09 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m as non-interventionist as can be, but I’m wondering why no one suggests taking out this nutjob with a few dozen Tomahawks (after notifying the Chicoms). Is there a downside to that? Is it not feasible? Nutjobs can run Uganda, but not have nukes and threaten our homeland. Bedouin warlords have been droned for less.


70 posted on 04/10/2013 8:16:01 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: drewh

The Russians (and probably the Chinese) came to realize MAD (mutual assured destruction) was not a real worry. Nuclear war is survivable. withe dollar in decline, American markets for cheap crap not what it used to be, what do they have to lose?
I’m not making a prediction but this could go very badly for us.
Or not...


71 posted on 04/10/2013 8:16:39 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

72 posted on 04/10/2013 8:20:34 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Hey, I live right near DC and I back your triple dog dare. At this point,, a direct hit on DC might just be the best thing for America.


73 posted on 04/10/2013 8:21:42 PM PDT by TBall
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To: BobL

At least one Freeper lives near Austin...


74 posted on 04/10/2013 8:26:32 PM PDT by mbj
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To: EQAndyBuzz
That is a pretty shallow argument. I don't buy it. We could cut the military's budget by 20% and still kick the Nork's asses. We could have laid waste to Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as many other Muslim terrorist countries by 2003. No need to rebuild, just like there is no need to feed and give heat to a bunch of commies in North Korea. Since the time of liberals like Marshall had their way, America's enemies haven't learned their lessons with messing with us.

By no means am I a war monger. Quite the opposite. I believe when diplomacy degrades to war you destroy your enemy. We need to do that as quickly and as inexpensively as possible. However, greenmail is not diplomacy. And when it comes to terrorists there is no diplomacy. Just shows how much evil there is in the world. Minus Islam and fanatics from North Korea, we can have diplomacy with nations like Canada to solve each other's problems.

75 posted on 04/10/2013 8:28:06 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: mbj

“At least one Freeper lives near Austin...”

Yipe...good luck. A bunch of Americans are about to get fried thanks to the Dems and the Republicans that refused to stand up to them...hopefully not any FReepers.


76 posted on 04/10/2013 8:30:10 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Venturer

lol

terrible reaction?

lol

AT BEST

we will shoot down the missile and send them a stern warning letter!

You forget the homo we have in the whitehouse.


77 posted on 04/10/2013 8:33:25 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t know if it’s still true, but in the 1990s, the Cubans and the Norks were very friendly. I can remember following a NORK diplo vehicle in my Ford Explorer on Fifth Avenue in Havana and pretending I was flying an F-16, and destroying the enemy aircraft.


78 posted on 04/10/2013 8:40:03 PM PDT by Ax
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To: drewh

will the USA shoot it down?

Anybody heard?


79 posted on 04/10/2013 8:41:41 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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To: drewh

I imagine China told Kim he is on his own.


80 posted on 04/10/2013 8:44:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Wikipedia on the BM25 Musudan, also known under the names Taepodong X, Nodong / Rodong-B and Mirim,
The actual rocket design is a liquid fuel rocket using a hypergolic combination of unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine as fuel, and inhibited red fuming nitric acid as oxidizer; this fuel/oxidizer combination does not vaporise like liquified hydrogen/oxygen gas at 35°C. As a result, once the fuel/oxidizer combination were fed into the missile, it could maintain a 'ready to launch' condition for several days, or even weeks, like the R-27 SLBM; however it could not be kept longer than this, because of tank corrosion caused by the red fuming nitric acid.

81 posted on 04/10/2013 8:45:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
I’m as non-interventionist as can be, but I’m wondering why no one suggests taking out this nutjob with a few dozen Tomahawks (after notifying the Chicoms). Is there a downside to that?

Yes, there is a downside. In response, dispersed generals would launch hundreds of chemical munitions and thousands of conventional artillery rounds at Seoul, South Korea..

82 posted on 04/10/2013 8:48:11 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: drewh

Where do they get those hats!!?

I know, made by slave labor, but just asking. The Chicoms have been laughing at Norkie military fashions since the Korean War.


83 posted on 04/10/2013 9:02:49 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: BobL; Arrowhead1952

About 50 freepers live in Austin. Despite the lib enclaves, Austin is one of the most heavily defended cities, probably in the top 5. Don’t ask any of us how we know.


84 posted on 04/10/2013 9:25:33 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: ReaganGeneration2

The little devil has declared war against the US! That means he is threatening US, we the people, not little barry abstard boy who will be tucked away in a secured bunker.


85 posted on 04/10/2013 9:41:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CommieCutter
Hehehe... Team America
86 posted on 04/10/2013 11:03:25 PM PDT by Paco
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To: JoeProBono

Why do they have vibrators on the table?


87 posted on 04/10/2013 11:04:43 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: BushCountry

I’ll believe N. Korea has 18,000 functional aircraft in their air force when pigs fly...


88 posted on 04/10/2013 11:10:35 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: drewh
So why does North Korea want to bomb Austin?

They're in cahoots with obama.

89 posted on 04/10/2013 11:26:03 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: drewh

I think this muscle flexing thing comes from a ‘secret’ meeting between US and NK where we probably told them to expect a harsh response next time they wage a major cyber attack on us like they did earlier this year. Possible?


90 posted on 04/10/2013 11:53:27 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Broker; ntnychik; potlatch; onyx

Broker:

The MSM is clueless and dismissive.
Our Resident is a proven Illegal Marxist.
Our DOD is managed by Hagelian boobs.
Our CIA is managed by a Moslem in drag Brennan.
Our SOS served in Viet Nam and colluded with the enemy.
Our military is castrated, feminized & queered up.
American people are ignorant at best and pitifully stupid.


91 posted on 04/10/2013 11:54:19 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: drewh
Have been out and looked around for references to this story. It appears consistent. All networks and cables have same story. I believe though this a ploy. I do not know who (first answer of who) is behind this ploy but I believe it to be a ploy or one can call this a ruse. Next thought ... What would be the motive for running a ruse? Next thought ... Where is the proof this is not some elaborate ruse or if this is not an elaborate ruse where is the proof? To what degree or when does this add to or detract from what is true or not true. I hate doing work for so called media. They and their experts are appalling in coming forth with the truth. Now another question ... What is the truth and do I have it? Begin breakdown ...

Remember .. only part of the question of who was answered in above paragraph.

What would be the motive for running a ruse?
Simple and true answer Money. lil kim is saying by his actions he wants money. Why am I bothering to type this ... everyone knows this. Motive ... Money.

Where is the proof this is not some elaborate ruse or if this is not an elaborate ruse where is the proof?
There is no proof except to go back to what is the motive question in the above paragraph.

To what degree or when does this add to or detract from what is true or not true.
Experts ... gotta love them and please note most of them are well paid. So what and when do experts know? Simple answer ... when the rest of us know. Experts are props.

What is the truth and do I have it?
I answer like Fox on this one .... I report ... you decide.

92 posted on 04/11/2013 12:26:44 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: drewh

I don’t think it’s Austin. I superimposed a map over that image and — as as near as I can tell — the line extends to Dallas, or directly over Dallas to Atlanta. Both cities fall under the line. I can’t be sure because I don’t know the point of origin.


93 posted on 04/11/2013 1:25:57 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Dilbert San Diego

ZERO


95 posted on 04/11/2013 3:13:59 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: no-to-illegals

96 posted on 04/11/2013 3:24:22 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Joe? Honest ... I didn’t receive the call.


97 posted on 04/11/2013 3:26:01 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: drewh

Hagel cancels a planned U.S. intercontinental ballistic missile test for this week after China urges both Washington and Pyongyang to cool it. So we look like (insert P word), and now, FLK (Fat ‘Lil Kim) is preparing to launch. Makes me wonder what’s really going on here with China. Devil’s advocate?


98 posted on 04/11/2013 3:26:58 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I wonder if you’d act so brave if you were actually within range of their weapons?


99 posted on 04/11/2013 3:30:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Who is North Koreas ally besides China?”

Iran, Syria, China and basically any country who hates the US.


100 posted on 04/11/2013 3:34:38 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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