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This Company Is Fighting to Keep Your Taxes Complicated
Motley Fool ^ | 04/10/13 | Dan Dzombak

Posted on 04/10/2013 8:54:22 PM PDT by Route395

We are less than a week away from the tax-filing deadline. Wouldn't it be great if you didn't have to submit anything, your taxes were done for you -- for free -- and you just had to make sure nothing was wrong with them?

It's not a dream. That's the idea behind "return-free filings," where the IRS would prepare your tax filing for you. While not everyone would qualify, those with simple taxes wouldn't have go through all the hassles that come about every tax season.

One of the groups leading the charge against "return-free filings" is Intuit (NASDAQ:


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Just go to a flat tax and let all the people at Intuit and other like minded companies go piss up a rope!
1 posted on 04/10/2013 8:54:22 PM PDT by Route395
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To: Route395

Just go to a flat tax and let all the people at Intuit and other like minded companies go piss up a rope!

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Better yet, go to the FairTax and eliminate income taxes altogether!


2 posted on 04/10/2013 8:56:58 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Eccl 10:2

Plus thousands of tax preparers, accounts, auditors,agents,tax lawyers, and politicians that feast off our money at tax time.
The only way we will ever get tax reform is at the point of a gun and a rope.
That means never..it is a dream..fiction.
Any reform that is discussed will be reduced to adding another couple thousand pages to the tax code.


3 posted on 04/10/2013 9:06:21 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Route395
Of course the governremnt wants something like taxes to be complicated What is mind bending, is government just pulls all of these tax forms out of thin air...It's all just made up bull sh*t. And the poor slobs have to pay more money to hire people to do their taxes? It's all BS!

It's more government lunacy like forcing you register the same GD vehicle, over and over and over and over and over. You hand over the money every year, and they hand you a colored sticker or some such nonsense. They've created hundred of thousands of bureaucratic jobs for people at thousands of DMV's...All to collect more and more of your money...

4 posted on 04/10/2013 9:33:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: All

So those of you who are complaining about the complexity of the tax code are prepared to cede your right to represent yourself or seek representation with regard to one of the laws which directly effect us all to the government or some other third party they designate?

Interesting.


5 posted on 04/10/2013 9:41:51 PM PDT by Tucsonican
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To: Route395
This is the tip of the private sector iceberg that thrives on government regulations. The folks that work for companies in the quasi-government private sector have the same interest promoting big government and complicated regulations as government bureaucrats.
6 posted on 04/10/2013 9:44:51 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Tucsonican
Good grief! What kind of claptrap BS is that?

Ya already sign under penalty of perjury...They've got ten thousand pages of government tax forms and probably 200,000 tax laws. Who's kidding who? This is BS of the highest order.

You know, I know and everyone knows why it's not simplified. It's the same damn reason taxes are never dramatically reduced with some being totally eliminated. How are you gong to run an all controlling, ever expanding government, if it only receives a fraction of what it was getting?

7 posted on 04/10/2013 9:51:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Route395

H&R Block has free file for federal taxes. I don’t know the details but I do know some people can use it to file a return at no charge. Google it. Better still, dogpile.com.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 4:08:13 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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H&R Block has free file for federal taxes.


NOTHING IS FREE. They aren’t doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, it’s a sucker trap and they will be making money from this ruse every time a sucker falls for that con.


9 posted on 04/11/2013 4:49:46 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Route395

I am dragging my feet this year because I have to file an I.R.S. form 8839 with an amended return for 2011. In addition I have to do my 2012 taxes and neither can be filed electronically.

From previous experience, I know not to bother calling I.R.S. for answers, they do have lots of answers but no two of them are alike.


10 posted on 04/11/2013 5:05:47 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: DH

I work for H&R Block during tax season.

The reason they offer free file for 1040EX (up until Feb 15) is to get people in the door.

Two reasons, get them in and you often find things they missed and can get them bigger refunds and most filing 1040EZ won’t always, develop regular customers.

I hate the tax system and big government. I regard working at Block an opportunity to help people legally avoid feeding the beast and to educate them on the pitfall;s of the system. MANY people are unaware of the many exemptions, credits etc they can take of and if you don’t know, Turbo Tax is not going to find them for you.

I have only been doing this for a few years in retirement and am amazed at the quality of professionals at Block, the real service they provide and how much they really care about the people they serve.

I personally have managed to get many thousands back from the beast for people who paid way to much in past years with amended returns. Check out H&R Blocks FREE “Second Look”.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 5:10:32 AM PDT by slorunner
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To: Graybeard58

Let the IRS do our taxes and tell us what we need to pay? Yeah I can’t see any problems with that....yeah rightttt. What they really mean us we get rid of those tax preparers that find all those deductions that we won’t give you. What do you think their end goal will be...to maximize the amount of tax you pay unlike the tax preparer who’s trying to find every deduction he can. Sorry IRS I don’t trust you to do the right thing, especially on 0’s watch...


12 posted on 04/11/2013 5:18:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: slorunner

Check out H&R Blocks FREE “Second Look”.


If they find something that “needs” fixing on the “second look” do they fix it free?

No need to answer, we all know they need to pay to have it fixed.


13 posted on 04/11/2013 5:55:27 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

So, you believe H&R Block should provide their services without recompense?

H&R Block is a business - and has found a way to offer value for nothing (second look) that helps feed their business by getting potential customers in the door. If they handle the refiling, they deserve to be paid.


14 posted on 04/11/2013 6:12:25 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: MortMan

helps feed their business by getting potential customers in the door.


It’s known in the real world as a “hook.” They bait these gullible people into their business by telling them they will file their 1040EZ for them at no charge. Then, of course, they will find something wrong with it, or suggest a savings that can be made by filing a standard 1040 but they will have to pay for it. The end result can be that the customer actually loses money on the deal.

It’s “bait and switch” no matter how you wish to color it.

Of course business have to charge for their services and I am a business owner so I know. However, I’ve never lowered myself to “bait and switch” any customer.


15 posted on 04/11/2013 6:55:38 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Oldexpat; Eccl 10:2
The only way we will ever get tax reform is at the point of a gun and a rope.

I've nothing better to do this weekend and I have plenty of rope. Where do we start?

16 posted on 04/11/2013 6:58:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: DH

If the “hook” offers value, then it’s not bait-and-switch, IMO.

Perhaps I would be more concerned if I saw credible info that they were filing paid returns on a large proportion of the 1040EZ crowd. As it is, I do not see the practice at H&R Block as dishonest - although I do not practice this tactic in my own business.


17 posted on 04/11/2013 7:07:05 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Oldexpat
Swell. For the IRS to be able to accurately prepare a person's taxes, it would have to be aware of everything that person did during the year; every slightest behavior which might have generated economic benefit, every behavior which might have had religious or charitable significance, every penny he spent and every penny he didn't. No thanks.

Even were there a flat tax, I wouldn't want the IRS preparing my return.

18 posted on 04/11/2013 7:14:35 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: DH
H&R Block has free file for federal taxes. NOTHING IS FREE. They aren’t doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, it’s a sucker trap and they will be making money from this ruse every time a sucker falls for that con.

You are mistaken. I work in a private library and have seen people file online, free.

19 posted on 04/13/2013 4:43:47 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: HomeAtLast

I guess you missed the whole conversation. I didn’t say that people could not file online for free. They can on their own computers or library computers.

The discussion was the bait and switch hook offered by companies that make their income off the requirement to file with the IRS....like the one in discussion.


20 posted on 04/13/2013 5:33:40 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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