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Biden: If you use an AR-15 for home protection, you can kill your kids
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/11/13 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 04/11/2013 5:38:56 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged

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To: ModelBreaker

I just watched the little video, how on Earth did a complete idiot like Biden become vice president? He actually seems to believe that a shotgun will not go through an interior wall that any angry teenager can easily shove his fist through. If Biden’s brain were an equal volume of gunpowder it wouldn’t load a shotgun shell to kill a pissant.


51 posted on 04/11/2013 6:42:49 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: theruleshavechanged

“Shooting gallery” (Michael Bane, Midway USA program) did some unscientific testing which says otherwise.

Additionally,

http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/

run a frangible cartridge for even less penetration.

YMMV


52 posted on 04/11/2013 6:43:04 AM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: onyx

I like that image.

I have a .40s&w S&W pistol and a .40s&w Highpoint carbine.

Both shoot the same caliber pistol round.

The carbine appears way more menassing because it has pistol grip, fore grip, picatinny rails on every side, laser on the bottom rail, red dot on the top rail, collapsable stock, and a muzzle brake.

The pistol is a standard midsize S&W sw40e.

The carbine has a ten round magazine.

The pistol has a 14 round magazine.

So... (while the longer barrell of the carbine does give it sightly more external ballistic energy) the pistol is actually MORE menassing than the BIG BAD (looks-like) ASSAULT CARBINE.

But tell that to a liberal. They will never get it.


53 posted on 04/11/2013 6:43:19 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Sorry Rimshot. We don’t have to kill our kids. Baby-killing DemocRATS are doing it for us with their abortions.


54 posted on 04/11/2013 6:43:42 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: theruleshavechanged

What a buffoon - my kids haven’t lived with me for over 20 years.


55 posted on 04/11/2013 6:44:52 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Joe Biden is more lucid when he’s watered regularly.

Not more intelligent. Just more lucid.


56 posted on 04/11/2013 6:46:08 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: RipSawyer

It won’t, it’s been tested numerous times. Birdshot is an ineffective goblin stopper beyond direct contact.

No one said it wouldn’t wound someone.

Look at Dick Cheney’s hunting partner. Hardly effective at all.

Hexum was killed by pieces of his skull propelled into his brain from the muzzle blast. Not soemthing we are going to rely on for self defense.

Best demo of the near total ineffectiveness of birdshot:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot17.htm


57 posted on 04/11/2013 6:46:42 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: mnehring

He’s got his finger in the trigger guard.


58 posted on 04/11/2013 6:51:11 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: frogjerk

Driving While Totally Shafazzed?


59 posted on 04/11/2013 6:52:58 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Redleg Duke

“Yeah, but at least he didn’t misspell “potato”.”

Wow, great comment. I guess you must know something about Biden’s spelling abilities. FYI, Quayle was an idiot also.


60 posted on 04/11/2013 6:53:45 AM PDT by zagger
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To: MrB

“”””Bird shot = lots of wound channels.”””””

I don’t intend to “wound” an assailant or a home invader. I intend to kim him.
Quickly. Preferably instantly, before-they-hit-the-floor dead.

But since this is not Hollywood and an instant kill is unlikely with anything less that 1800lbs of energy, I’ll settle for instant incompacitation.... enough to put an assailant down (but not instantly dead).

If you shoot a crackhead high on heroin or bathsalts with birdshot, you are going to sting them at best. You’ll scare them for sure... but he will still have the ability to continue comimg towards you.


61 posted on 04/11/2013 6:55:28 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: theruleshavechanged
I just can't believe it. Why do they keep giving this guy a microphone?

Because he's funny of course.

62 posted on 04/11/2013 6:56:00 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: MrB
probably - I assert that being able to defend yourself against rioters and gangs is what they are specifically targeting.

They also want us to have to stock a different caliber than UN troops so that their ammo will be of no use to us.

63 posted on 04/11/2013 6:56:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

He is Iron Man, he can do what he wants. :)


64 posted on 04/11/2013 6:56:44 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: theruleshavechanged

Someone tell Joey not to run with that microphone in his hand.


65 posted on 04/11/2013 6:57:57 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: GBA
He was chosen to be VP to lower the status and esteem of the office,

He was chosen to be VP to make Obama look smart by comparison to 'the white guy.'

66 posted on 04/11/2013 6:58:06 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: zagger
FYI, Quayle was an idiot also.

Actually Dan Quayle is a pretty brilliant guy who got caught up in a 'gotcha'. His worst error, reading off a spelling card that had the incorrect spelling. No compare that to the flubs of Slow Joe.

67 posted on 04/11/2013 6:58:31 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: theruleshavechanged
If you use an AR-15 for home protection, you can kill your kids

Plugs: you can also - More LIKELY kill the Obama supporters breaking into your home!!

er Sorry all Obama supporters on FR.../s

68 posted on 04/11/2013 7:00:36 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen
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To: MrB

“”””I assert that being able to defend yourself against rioters and gangs is what they are specifically targeting.””””

Wyatt Earp... faced with a mob:

“You die first, get it? Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe, you understand me?”


69 posted on 04/11/2013 7:01:03 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: Carry_Okie

The commies did this with their 7.63 chambered weapons.
They could shoot our ammo, but we couldn’t shoot theirs.


70 posted on 04/11/2013 7:01:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: envisio

You have to pick out the right guy for this challenge...

It gets pretty obvious with practice, actually.


71 posted on 04/11/2013 7:02:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RipSawyer

Any round powerful enough to reliably stop an intruder will also go thru drywall and barely notice.


72 posted on 04/11/2013 7:02:47 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: theruleshavechanged
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73 posted on 04/11/2013 7:07:01 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: katana

“Whereas children are well known to be impervious to shotgun fire.”

If you shoot rock salt at them when they are little, it toughens them up a bit.


74 posted on 04/11/2013 7:10:58 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: envisio

75 posted on 04/11/2013 7:15:39 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: katana
Biden any less a brain damaged imbecile.

brain damaged imbeciles are upset that you lumped them in with Biden...

They want you to know that if you had 7 million Joe Bidens, the IQ would still be below 1 of them...

say you are sorry to them, please!! THANK YOU!!!

76 posted on 04/11/2013 7:18:34 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen
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To: USMCPOP

“””If you shoot rock salt at them when they are little, it toughens them up a bit.”””

You ain’t lyin! I remember, many a time, while frog gigging at ole man Jargons pond, we ran like the dickens while rock salt was stinging us in the back.

We didn’t think a thing about it either. Nowadays, they’d have the swat team surround that place if someone was shooting at kids. Back then it was normal. Even our parents said we deserved it.

Now the kids around here don’t even know that pond is there... don’t know what frog gigging is... they’re in closed rooms with a little computer screen in their face.

Sad....


77 posted on 04/11/2013 7:19:36 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: Redleg Duke
Yeah, but at least he didn’t misspell “potato”.

I think you mean "potatoe". (At least that's what it says on the card that the teacher gave me.)

78 posted on 04/11/2013 7:20:01 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: EEGator

“No no... he ain’t bluffing... he’ll kill me.”

“You’re not as dumb as you look, Ike.”


79 posted on 04/11/2013 7:22:47 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

One thing to be considered is, when Biden speaks, the bulk of the audience he is speaking to has no more common sense than he does, or he would not be VP today!


80 posted on 04/11/2013 7:23:41 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
What sane person would want Boehner for President?

Considering the current occupants, probably any sane person

My Thoughts exactly!!

81 posted on 04/11/2013 7:24:11 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen
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To: katana; All
“PS: I do know that a .223 shot from an AR15 can go through several walls and a shotgun is best for closer range home defense.”

There is both soft point and frangible ammunition commonly available (when ammunition was commonly available!) for use in AR-15s for home defense. It does not penetrate walls any more than buckshot does.

82 posted on 04/11/2013 7:32:17 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: MrB

I have heard that before. Never seen any proof. Please cite specific calibers. Maybe a link?


83 posted on 04/11/2013 7:34:02 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Iron Munro; All

Ever notice how Obama surrounds himself with buffoons, incompetents and weak figureheads like Shotgun Joe?
(and Hagel, Napolitano, Sebelius, Hillary, Kerry, etc.)

“Weak, insecure leaders like Obama tend to avoid strong subordinates - they feel threatened by confident, independent people.
That dooms them to mediocrity at best.

Strong, confident, secure leaders don’t feel threatened by strong subordinates so they tend to select the strongest, most competent people available.
That gives them a strong, capable organization, able to set their sights high and rise above mediocrity. “

Post of the day. Deserves to be repeated.


84 posted on 04/11/2013 7:34:49 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: envisio

“And you, music lover...you’re next.”


85 posted on 04/11/2013 7:36:13 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: shooter223

The Chinese made Mak 90 is a good example.
7.63 X 39 instead of 7.62 X 39.

The SKS, IIRC, also comes in 7.63.


86 posted on 04/11/2013 7:38:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB; All

“The commies did this with their 7.63 chambered weapons.
They could shoot our ammo, but we couldn’t shoot theirs.”

It is a common myth, but is not true.


87 posted on 04/11/2013 7:38:52 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Redleg Duke
Yeah, but at least he didn’t misspell “potato”.
And they say Dan Quayle was stoopid?
88 posted on 04/11/2013 7:41:16 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

It’s a commonly held belief on the left that their elected people are morally and intellectually superior.
And it’s not a matter of being misinformed, it’s a matter of self worth.
“I’m worthy, valuable, and superior to others because I support morally and intellectually superior people.”

“Ever heard of Sheila Jackson Lee, Cynthia McKinney, Maxine Waters, or Hank Johnson?”

“no”


89 posted on 04/11/2013 7:44:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: envisio

Bunk

You hit someone in the face with something as small as #8 at 10 yards, and their face will pretty much be hamburger.


90 posted on 04/11/2013 7:52:55 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: baddog 219
Hey, you owe me a cup of coffee and a new keyboard, pal!! ROTFLMAO!
91 posted on 04/11/2013 7:53:16 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: MrB
They could shoot our ammo, but we couldn’t shoot theirs.

Fits the pattern, doesn't it?

The useful idiots don't get it; their "friends" want us dead.

92 posted on 04/11/2013 7:53:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: MrB

7.63 X 39 ....... What U.S. caliber would fit in that chamber?


93 posted on 04/11/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: shooter223

not a US caliber, but my understanding was that the south VN were using 7.62 X 39 at the time, and the NVN were using the 7.63 chambered weapons.


94 posted on 04/11/2013 7:58:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: csmusaret

“Maybe he wil do us all a favor and volunteer to stand behind some drywall while someone shoots at it with a twelve gauge.”

00 Buckshot would be a good choice.


95 posted on 04/11/2013 7:58:54 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

sorry ... and THANK YOU!


96 posted on 04/11/2013 8:01:56 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: theruleshavechanged; TexasFreeper2009; Iron Munro
Biden: If you use an AR-15 for home protection, you can kill your kids

OR you can live in some democrat inner city hellhole with strict gun control laws and have your kids slaughtered by gangs...

Or when faces with a crazed killer in your home - who wants to kill your wife and kids - you can throw pencils and scissors and beg for your life...

Your choice...

97 posted on 04/11/2013 8:03:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Our kid is at Pearl Harbor. What kind of range does an AR-15 have?


98 posted on 04/11/2013 8:07:39 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Stupid Joe giving himself athlete’s foot of the mouth again.

Stupid Joe, if you have to use a weapon to protect your family,it is far less likely that you’ll kill your children than it is that the intruder will kill your children.


99 posted on 04/11/2013 8:10:26 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Hey Joe, the shotgun is for home protection, the AR is for protection again’st you and your tribe.


100 posted on 04/11/2013 8:23:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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