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Missouri Highway Patrol gave complete CCW permit list to Social Security Administration.
Columbia Daily Tribune ^ | April 10, 2013 | Rudy Keller

Posted on 04/11/2013 5:51:38 AM PDT by yldstrk

Apparently the Missouri Department of Revenue keeps the list of all CCW permit holders and marks their driver license with a special indicator. Mo Highway Patrol requested a list of all and twice provided it to Social Security Administration.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; corruption; govtabuse
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To: yldstrk
I'm not sure this is unusual. I have a friend with a Michigan CCW permit. One day while traveling into Canada, he stopped at the Canadian customs booth. The booth has cameras to read license plate numbers before the vehicle arrives.

The very first question from the agent asked was: " Mr. Xxxx, are you carrying your weapon today?" Canadian customs obviously had access to his Michigan CCW data, and would have gotten it from the US.

21 posted on 04/11/2013 6:18:27 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Missouri state law forbids them to share this data.


22 posted on 04/11/2013 6:19:55 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

i fully support this lawsuit; hope it catches on


23 posted on 04/11/2013 6:20:12 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: norwaypinesavage

It may be SOP for all I know, but it is illegal


24 posted on 04/11/2013 6:22:05 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Headline is up on Drudge.


25 posted on 04/11/2013 6:25:32 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: All

Silly you. Nothing the Democrats do is illegal!


26 posted on 04/11/2013 6:25:58 AM PDT by RHS Jr (Pity the banksters when Jesus comes)
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To: muir_redwoods

The more distribution the better.

The premise here is what? How would someone get a CCW if they had a felony record? Hardly, not the reason. Whether they had some kind of mental disorder? What kind of such records does SSA have to show that, so obviously not a valid reason either. It is a way the feds had to garner this info for some nefarious purpose i.e. using it for some political purpose to support their gun control agenda? YES, someone was told to put together a program and use their law enforcement contacts to end run civil procedures. So, out trots an IG agent with SSA with a request for law enforcement info to his pal over at the Highway Patrol, after probably having been told to stick his request to the revenue department us his wazoo. Now if the IG SSA is using its authorities under medicare to peer down into medical records on individuals to match this data, I think there is a prima facia case for illegal tampering with medical records under privacy laws. I hope someone at the state level has the fortitude to stick this up their backsides. This is an egrious misuse of authority.


27 posted on 04/11/2013 6:26:27 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: listenhillary

Good!


28 posted on 04/11/2013 6:28:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

And the social security admin needs this why?


29 posted on 04/11/2013 6:28:47 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: AppyPappy

How the individual states deal with CCW permits is the choice of the states.

The Feds have no right or justification for collecting information identifying gun owners. This is the crux of the argument against expanded Federal gun control. They never obey their own laws. If there is a list of gun owners they will break the letter and spitit of the law to obtain it.

Every time we say we are concerned with the Feds collecting lists of gun owners we get ridiculed and called extremists.

But when it happens, repeatedly, the violation of our rights and the hypocrisy of the Feds is ignored.


30 posted on 04/11/2013 6:28:49 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: AppyPappy

Don’t believe this. Been stopped 3 times with my CCW, and they NEVER ASKED if I was carrying. VA law requires that the first words out of my mouth when stopped and carrying are, “Officer, I have a CCW and am carrying.”

Every time I was stopped, the officer said, “That’s fine - I don’t need to see it.”

NEVER did the officer ask to see the weapon and run a check on the weapon. NEVER.

In fact, the one thing the DON’T want is you reaching for your weapon! They perceive that as a threat - and you are risking getting shot by doing so. LEO friends have told me this.

And, to add, Virginia law as of last year allows anyone to carry a concealed weapon in their glove compartment or console. No CCW needed. And while a CCW carrier is required to notify the officer, a LEO told me that non-CCW carrier who has a weapon is not required to notify that he/she has a concealed weapon in the vehicle.

On one stop I did not have a weapon in the car. When I handed the officer my DL, he saw my CCW - and then asked, “I see your CCW there - are you carrying?” “No, sir. If I had been carrying, law would have required me to notify you immediately.” He smiled.


31 posted on 04/11/2013 6:33:32 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I agree. Part of the universal Marxist plan to get the good guys first and disarm them - and let the criminals go free.......


32 posted on 04/11/2013 6:34:49 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Jumpmaster
"Does Virginia pass the info to the Feds?" At least indirectly. When I was pulled over by a Pentagon Protective Service cop a couple of years ago, he asked if I was carrying immediately. The only place he could have gotten the knowledge is in the VSP database. TC
33 posted on 04/11/2013 6:35:41 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: AppyPappy
If you have a CCW and get pulled by the police, they will ask if you are packing and run the gun to make sure it is legal (not stolen)

Wow. Even Massachusetts doesn't do this. We carry a separate LTC and are told that it is best to volunteer info that we are carrying...if we are.

34 posted on 04/11/2013 6:36:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Arlis
On one stop I did not have a weapon in the car. When I handed the officer my DL, he saw my CCW - and then asked, “I see your CCW there - are you carrying?” “No, sir. If I had been carrying, law would have required me to notify you immediately.” He smiled.

Don't take offense at this please as none is intended. They have you trained very well. Our founders would be shaking their heads in disbelief. You sure manage to get stopped a lot.

35 posted on 04/11/2013 6:38:16 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: yldstrk
Here, they grabbed the entire list and turned it over to the Feds. Why?

Silly question, yldstrk! Because the really important people in Washington, D.C. asked for it!

36 posted on 04/11/2013 6:42:02 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: yldstrk

Thanks for posting. I missed the earlier post.

Drudge had this about five headlines down just a few minutes ago, but now it’s at the top of column one.


37 posted on 04/11/2013 6:43:41 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Mouton

Looks like the Feds are building an illegal registration list by hook or by crook. I’d bet they’ll do this in every blue state they can shake down.


38 posted on 04/11/2013 6:43:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Excellence

It needs to be on top, don’t you think? Completely outrageous


39 posted on 04/11/2013 6:45:05 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Arlis; Mouton

My permit tells them I have A gun; anything else is yet to be discovered. I’m thinking if burying 100, 3-foot pieces of scrap steel on the six acres I own just to keep them busy. Of course sowing the fields with handfuls of nails, screws and other scrap might be fun too.


40 posted on 04/11/2013 6:47:07 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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