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Must See "GunGrabber(TM)" TV - S. 649, The "Disarm America" act (11-Apr-2013)
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Posted on 04/11/2013 7:55:05 AM PDT by SecondAmendment

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To: onyx
To all- don't forget this day when 2014 comes.

Don't forget the people who voted Aye/Yes

51 posted on 04/11/2013 8:38:57 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: CapnJack

They just voted to end the filibuster before it started. 68-31.


52 posted on 04/11/2013 8:39:18 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: onyx

Well, we still have Bone head to count on in the house **groan**


53 posted on 04/11/2013 8:39:55 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Christie at the beach

We won’t.
The list will soon be published.


54 posted on 04/11/2013 8:42:43 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

That’s a laugh.


55 posted on 04/11/2013 8:42:57 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SecondAmendment

Reid’s taking this to heart;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow


56 posted on 04/11/2013 8:44:44 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: SecondAmendment

This will be stopped in the house right?


57 posted on 04/11/2013 8:45:51 AM PDT by jjw
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To: Las Vegas Ron
-- So do they just need a simple majority vote now to pass this unconstitutional bee ess? --

I think your question is really, "Is this the last possibility for obstructing voting for passage?" The answer to that is "No."

Bills always are passed on a simple majority basis. The only exceptions are in the constitution, treaties being one example.

This particular cloture vote was on a motion to take up the bill for debate. This bill is now formally up for debate (even though they spent the better part of the week debating it already). At some point, the gun grabbers, DEM and GOP alike, will want to advance their gun grabbing into a law, and to do that, they will have to vote to limit debate AGAIN.

58 posted on 04/11/2013 8:45:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SecondAmendment

It will not pass the House of Representatives, or will it? Pay for Play?


59 posted on 04/11/2013 8:48:47 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

agree.


60 posted on 04/11/2013 8:48:56 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: onyx

Not a cheap shot at all...Sarah should not have endorsed Ayotte. She usually gets it right, but Ayotte obviously had her fooled. Lamontagne lost by a razor-thin margin. Incidentally, Red Hampshire is NOT ‘my state’. :-)


61 posted on 04/11/2013 8:52:01 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for the info.

Good thing I took my BP meds this morning, freakin traitors.


62 posted on 04/11/2013 8:52:07 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Christie at the beach
Don't forget the people who voted Aye/Yes...

Primary them ALL when the opportunity arises...

63 posted on 04/11/2013 8:53:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: hondact200
Time to swamp the House and get them to preemptively kill the bill.

Looks like the NRA WILL score the cloture vote after all !

64 posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:28 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I used to watch the Senate close, did so for enough years to get the pattern down pretty good. It is a den of vipers. You'd be hard pressed to fit that much corruption into such a small space, even at a MAFIA convention.
65 posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:56 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Dead Corpse

Exactly!


66 posted on 04/11/2013 8:55:28 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: who knows what evil?

Won’t make any difference. The republican elite won’t tolerate any nonconforming upstarts winning primaries.


67 posted on 04/11/2013 8:56:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

the sight of Dick(head) Durbin makes me vomit. I live in Illinois. He makes me sick.


68 posted on 04/11/2013 8:59:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Black Agnes
Won’t make any difference. The republican elite won’t tolerate any nonconforming upstarts winning primaries.

Hey! I'm trying to grasp at some straws, here. :-)

69 posted on 04/11/2013 9:01:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yep...that about does it. Aren’t they so proud of themselves. Thanks for the link. It was painful to watch, but I’m glad I did.


70 posted on 04/11/2013 9:07:17 AM PDT by hmerrell123
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To: SecondAmendment
Time to swamp the House and get them to preemptively kill the bill.

Anyone putting their trust in the GOP Negotiator In Chief is foolish.
71 posted on 04/11/2013 9:08:07 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: onyx

All Ammo will now become scarcer and much more costly!


72 posted on 04/11/2013 9:10:23 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Cheerio
> Anyone putting their trust in the GOP Negotiator In Chief is foolish.


Just trying to exhaust every and all options available ...

73 posted on 04/11/2013 9:16:59 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: demshateGod
They just voted to end the filibuster before it started. 68-31.

Are you in agreement with me yet that the GOP has to relegated to 3rd party status IMMEDIATELY so that a new party can register and get it's act together before 2014 campaign starts in earnest?
74 posted on 04/11/2013 9:56:22 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red_Devil 232

For sure.


75 posted on 04/11/2013 10:08:46 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Cheerio

Yes, but on a local level. The only way to get DC to stop is if states get their act together. I think all decent pols in DC should walk out, come home, and help the states exert their sovereignty. Kick out the EPA, DHS, TSA, ATF, NEA, IRS, INS, etc, stop all tax payments, dare the feds to stop us.


76 posted on 04/11/2013 10:20:02 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SecondAmendment

They are back now.


77 posted on 04/11/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

>>They are back now.

Re run from earlier if you missed it..


78 posted on 04/11/2013 12:43:39 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Black Agnes

I’m no lawyer, but it seems like this section means that driving across state lines with your side arm holstered would be outlawed. Beyond that, the definition of transportation includes stopping for lodging. So if I stop in Ohio overnight on my way to NC, I can’t load my gun and have it in my room with me. It has to be unloaded, locked, and inaccessible. What does that have to do with shooting kids in a school. But oh, we need this bill to honor the memory of those Newtown kids. What a crock.

And it says that they need probable cause to arrest you for a violation of this law, but most state databases have a list of the CPL holders, so that would probably constitute probable cause for a search. And in any case if pulled over most states require a CPL holder to declare himself as such during a traffic stop, probably also enough to warrant a search.

Look at some of the crap in the senate gun COMPROMISE bill the republicans agreed on:

SEC. 128. INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION.
(a) In General.-Section 926A of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
“926A. Interstate transportation of firearms or ammunition
“(a) Definition.-In this section, the term ‘transport’-
“(1) includes staying in temporary lodging overnight, stopping for food, fuel, vehicle maintenance, an emergency, medical treatment, and any other activity incidental to the transport; and
“(2) does not include transportation-
“(A) with the intent to commit a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year that involves a firearm; or
“(B) with knowledge, or reasonable cause to believe, that a crime described in subparagraph (A) is to be committed in the course of, or arising from, the transportation.
“(b) Authorization.-Notwithstanding any provision of any law (including a rule or regulation) of a State or any political subdivision thereof, a person who is not prohibited by this chapter from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm or ammunition shall be entitled to-
“(1) transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where the person may lawfully possess, carry, or transport the firearm to any other such place if, during the transportation-
“(A) the firearm is unloaded; and
“(B)(i) if the transportation is by motor vehicle-
“(I) the firearm is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the motor vehicle; or
“(II) if the motor vehicle is without a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm is-
“(aa) in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or
“(bb) secured by a secure gun storage or safety device; or
“(ii) if the transportation is by other means, the firearm is in a locked container or secured by a secure gun storage or safety device; and
“(2) transport ammunition for any lawful purpose from any place where the person may lawfully possess, carry, or transport the ammunition, to any other such place if, during the transportation-
“(A) the ammunition is not loaded into a firearm; and
“(B)(i) if the transportation is by motor vehicle-
“(I) the ammunition is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the motor vehicle; or
“(II) if the motor vehicle is without a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the ammunition is in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or
“(ii) if the transportation is by other means, the ammunition is in a locked container.
“(c) Limitation on Arrest Authority.-A person who is transporting a firearm or ammunition may not be-
“(1) arrested for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State, or any political subdivision thereof, relating to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms or ammunition, unless there is probable cause that the transportation is not in accordance with subsection (b); or
“(2) detained for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State, or any political subdivision thereof, relating to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms or ammunition, unless there is reasonable suspicion that the transportation is not in accordance with subsection (b).”.
(b) Technical and Conforming Amendment.-The table of sections for chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the item relating to section 926A and inserting the following:
“926A. Interstate transportation of firearms or ammunition.”.


79 posted on 04/11/2013 6:50:34 PM PDT by JTHomes (28th: Congress shall make no law respecting economics , or prohibiting the free exercise of markets)
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