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'Batgirl' #19 Features First Openly Transgender Character In Mainstream Superhero Comics
Comicsalliance.com ^ | April 10, 2013 | Matt D. Wilson

Posted on 04/11/2013 8:41:19 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

The sibling conflict teased on the cover of Batgirl #19 may be the hook that pulls readers in, but it will be another reveal in the issue that will occupy a spot in comics history, as one of the book's characters will reveal she is transgender, the first time a character has done so in a mainstream superhero comic.

Wired reports that writer Gail Simone was inspired to create a transgender character by a conversation with Batwoman co-creator Greg Rucka at Wondercon a few years ago. Simone asked why there seem to be fewer gay male comics characters than lesbian heroes (such as Batwoman). Rucka replied it would be a huge sign of progress for a gay male character to appear on a comic cover. It'd be even bigger if the character was transgender.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: batgirl; comics; dccomics; disorders; homosexualagenda; transgender; yesterday
I learned to read when I was 5 from my older brother's comic books. I taught my children to read from comics. I continued to read comics (later "graphic novels") all the way until middle age.

Unfortunately, most comics are now politically correct crap. Luckily, I have a box of comics from the 1960s and earlier in the back of my closet that I can read to my grandkids.

1 posted on 04/11/2013 8:41:19 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Comic book he-she:

Real world he-she:


2 posted on 04/11/2013 8:47:27 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I no longer pay attention to comic books, or “sequential art”, or whatever euphemism they call themselves.


3 posted on 04/11/2013 8:49:30 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I still have my CLASSICS ILLUSTRATED and COMBAT magazines from the early 1960s.

Comics were accused of being part of the cause, back when Bobby Kennedy was shot, for being too violent.
So were Pulp fiction books, TV shows, Movies, war toys and toy guns.

Comics and pulp books toned it down for a while, TV shows downgraded themselves to kiddie shows, war toys and toy guns disappeared from the stores.

Movies? They said they would police themselves with a rating system to keep kids out. Instead it unleashed the most vile and bloody movies on the screen. Trailers for these movies rated R or worse were aimed at the pre-teen crowds.

Today’s TV fare would make people in the 1960s have apoplexy!


4 posted on 04/11/2013 8:51:48 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed. The director and actors wept.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Simone asked why there seem to be fewer gay male comics characters than lesbian heroes (such as Batwoman).

Lesbians are discriminating against gay men!!!!!!!!! Time to send them to re-education camp too!!!

Rucka replied it would be a huge sign of progress for a gay male character to appear on a comic cover. It'd be even bigger if the character was transgender.

This statement, in a nutshell, perfectly explains why our entire Western culture is swirling down the toilet.

5 posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:11 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"I love me some comics..."
6 posted on 04/11/2013 9:00:12 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Not terribly surprising, considering that a lot of comic book creators these days at the Big Two (Marvel and DC) are so left wing, they’d chop off their right arm if they could..

Plus DC Comics (owner of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman) is far behind Marvel (The Avengers, Spider-Man) in sales, so they need to keep pulling “stunts” like this to boost their flagging sales. Marvel’s not immune to stunts as well, having a same-sex “marriage” last year.

Same writer on this Batgirl book, Gail Simone, will also be writing a comic book called “The Movement” glorifying the Occu-pity-partiers out later this year.

Stop buying Marvel and DC and support the independent creative comic books. There are good pro-right wing or at least libertarian) creators out there like Mike Baron and Chuck Dixon.


7 posted on 04/11/2013 9:00:42 AM PDT by Southern Magnolia
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Being that comic books are a childrens market, I would have solved the issue by reducing the exposure of children to lesbians.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 9:03:33 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Sick. Just plain sick.


9 posted on 04/11/2013 9:07:11 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

What about the ambiguously gay duo?


10 posted on 04/11/2013 9:09:59 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

What used to be satire is now mainstream.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 9:23:21 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Next on the hit parade, it’s the attack of the “shims”.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 9:24:26 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Tanniker Smith

and wghat used to be mainstream, is not


13 posted on 04/11/2013 9:25:36 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006412/posts


14 posted on 04/11/2013 9:26:37 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I’ve never read comic books (except for Jack Chick tracts) and do adults read them and why?

I don’t want to make their readers angry but with an infinite supply of real books with an infinite supply of worlds in them, I don’t see the attraction to adults; never saw it as a kid either.

This development is disturbing. Either they’re writing these homo scenarios for the adult perv market or they’re for children with the purpose of indoctrinating as well as making this mental illness mainstream.

Culturally, we are at the edge of a precipice and once we go over, I can’t imagine what will happen but soon, it will be anything goes and you better celebrate it.

Soon, they’re going to start going down the road towards decriminalization of hard drugs like coke, meth or heroin.
I don’t think Heroin users are violent although I’ve never met one but I know that people on meth or coke are frying their brains as well as their souls and the amount of violence associated with these drugs is staggering.

Never in my wildest dreams did I expect to see what has happened in the last twenty years.


15 posted on 04/11/2013 9:29:20 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: headstamp 2

lol - Hi there, “Shimberly” seat up or down today? ;)


16 posted on 04/11/2013 9:29:52 AM PDT by februus
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To: Lx
...do adults read them and why?
I don’t want to make their readers angry but with an infinite supply of real books with an infinite supply of worlds in them, I don’t see the attraction to adults; never saw it as a kid either.


We're not that literate of a culture any longer, and just wait until the touch-pad generation gets out of high school. There is some obvious talent involved in creating the art and in adding the dialog and, if done well, in the story-telling. That said, I'm with you, I like a plain old book with lots of words.
17 posted on 04/11/2013 9:33:37 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Can they not leave anything alone???


18 posted on 04/11/2013 9:35:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Can they not leave anything alone???”

To an indoctrinator with a hammer, everything is a nail.

It’s a bonus to start early with the kiddies.


19 posted on 04/11/2013 9:38:49 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: AD from SpringBay

I’m glad I’m not the only one shaking my head.

If a comic book will get a child into reading, then that is a good thing. This however, is not a good thing and their agenda couldn’t be plainer as well as straight up evil.


20 posted on 04/11/2013 9:44:09 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Bubba_Leroy
Nope. And it's not even true. In 1992 or so Element Lad was in "love" with transgendered Shvaughn Erin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shvaughn_Erin But they have to come out with this crap every few years. They declare it "groundbreaking" and "unique" though it's the same old boring crap.
Really ticks be off is they did it to the original Green Lantern.
21 posted on 04/11/2013 9:46:08 AM PDT by techcor
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To: Bubba_Leroy
'Batgirl' #19 Features First Openly Transgender Character In Mainstream Superhero Comics

Will I'll go out a buy one -- NOT!!

Todays comic books are PC crap

22 posted on 04/11/2013 9:50:23 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen
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To: Lx

Not a big fan of comics, but I love fantasy. Same basic idea if things that are completely imaginary and could never happen, but tend to be quite conservative in beliefs.
Sword of truth series was great- the whole series was the heroes trying to fight for the rights of individual over “greater good.”
If I want to read, give me a book that has a good message and doesn’t rely on pictures.


23 posted on 04/11/2013 9:51:59 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Read through the comments. If you were never a fan of comics, than this is a non-story for you. I grew up reading comics. Marvel comics were my favorites. Reason being - with Superman (DC) you had the most powerful being given a hard time by simple men. Even to a kid, it was somewhat unbelievable. With Marvel, you had the super heroes battle someone who could destroy planets. The villians were equal in power if not more powerful than the heroes. Sometimes the hero lost. Sometimes the hero won but received a major arse kicking in the process.

Here is irony for you. Back in the early 60's there was a stand alone Human Torch story where he battled against a Socialist leaning villian causing rabble-rousing havoc. The villian at the end turned out to be a newspaper publisher. The story was written by - ta do - Stan Lee. I guess they write so much over the years and get lost in the indoctrination, they tend to forget the basics - good over evil. Socialism - evil; American way of life - at the time - good.

Learned alot about good and evil at the time, especially from Captain America. Loved it when he was beating up the Red Skull and at the same time explaining the goodness and rightousness of the United States. Now there are way too many leftists/Marxists in the ranks. They all have to make thier mark by shattering the boundries.

And what is really a shame is they take characters from the past and transform them into something to fit todays culture. Why make Green Lantern gay? Why make the Rawhide Kid gay? You want a LGBT character? Fine. Than create one but don't take an established character and change it. And in a sense they are cowards. If you really want to be edgey, than make one of the big ones gay or whatever deviant of the time this sick culture is championing. But that would be too much of a backlash.

24 posted on 04/11/2013 10:29:33 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson
And what is really a shame is they take characters from the past and transform them into something to fit todays culture. Why make Green Lantern gay? Why make the Rawhide Kid gay? You want a LGBT character? Fine. Than create one but don't take an established character and change it. And in a sense they are cowards.

Why pervert the comic heroes of yesteryear? Because they'd never get the new characters off the ground. This way they can get gramma to spring for the book at the register relying on the superhero's former reputation.

Having some openly GiBLeT character bomb at the newsstand would be embarassing--and expose the homonazi movement as not being so strongly backed as it claims.

25 posted on 04/11/2013 12:17:55 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Batwoman is a lesbian?


26 posted on 04/11/2013 12:21:13 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

If its all about diversity, do they already have characters of every race and religion? Wy push only sexual orientation?


27 posted on 04/11/2013 12:28:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: absolootezer0
So you like fantasy; do you read Terry Pratchett? If so, how much do you think JK Rowling 'borrowed' from him?

Never heard of Sword of Truth, I'll look into it. I like books that take a great idea and turn it into a great story, usually flawed heroes and if it's science fiction which I really like, they don't waste my time with some phantasmagorical technology and neglect the story, or neglect developing the universe the story is set in or even simple character development.

One series that I think typifies great sci-fi is the Dune series from Frank Herbert. Although if you read the six original books in a row, it's clear he never went back and read the books leading up to the next sequel. His characters change roles and abilities without a reason between books which probably means he was lazy and didn't want to re-read his previous books. If you liked the first six by Frank Herbert, his son supposedly found notes on the rest of the series in a safety deposit box and got a co-writer to flesh them out. While the writing is way below the originals, it does move the story forward.

One thing I've always loved reading is Greek/Roman mythology. Or Homer's Iliad and the Odyssey. Although in the Odyssey, I could have walked from Troy to Ithaca in ten years.

I'm afraid with texting and people incorporating gangsta terminology into our Lexicon (bling for example) we're losing our language and if you read great 20th century writing or even earlier like Mark Twain. Writers like Steinbeck (although you want to commit suicide after reading some of his books). "Tell me again about the rabbits George". We're just not getting anything other than formulaic writing. It's like they have a chart with types of scenarios, types of characters, types of conflicts and then pick something from each column and write the book.

Or writers with great ideas like Ayn Rand even though she lacked in the actual technical part of writing. Even Robert Ludlam if you like spy novels although I think he might have given up and just turned some of his books into chase novels. The last Bourne book is a good example of that.

I honestly can't name a great modern writer off the top of my head.

One thing I've never gotten into much is what is considered to be great Russian literature. I forget the book but I think I was a quarter of the way through it before I realized they didn't have four characters, the character had four names and there seemed to be no rhyme or reason why they used one name over another.

28 posted on 04/11/2013 1:57:23 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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