Skip to comments.Senate agrees to open gun-control debate
Posted on 04/11/2013 8:54:43 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
The Senate cleared the way on Thursday for an emotional, weeks-long debate on proposals to curb gun violence, rejecting an effort by conservative Republicans to block consideration of gun-control legislation prompted by December's Connecticut elementary school massacre.
The Senate voted 68-31 to open debate on President Barack Obama's proposals to expand background checks for gun buyers, tighten restrictions on gun trafficking and increase funding for school security.
The legislation still faces many hurdles, including a weeks-long debate in the Senate featuring many amendments that could make the bill unacceptable to senators who now support it.
No major gun legislation has passed the Congress since 1994.
"It is a really important start," Democratic Senator Christopher Murphy of Connecticut said before the vote, displaying photos of some of the victims of the December 14 massacre of 20 children and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.
That agreement to expand criminal background checks of gun buyers to include commercial sales made at gun shows and online was expected to boost bipartisan Senate support for the measure.
The expanded background checks, a provision that polls show has the support of up to 90 percent of Americans, will be the first amendment offered in debate and appears to be Obama's best hope for achieving meaningful gun-control legislation.
But Obama is unlikely to get some elements of gun control that he has advocated, including a ban on rapid-firing "assault" weapons like the one used in Connecticut and limits on the capacity of ammunition magazines. Amendments to add those provisions to the bill being considered by the Senate appear to have a slim chance of winning on the Senate floor.
Many Republicans and some Democrats have objected to the gun-control proposals as an infringement on their constitutional right to own guns.
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Don’t blame Texas. Both of my Senators voted “NO”!
“Any restrictions to citizens’ exercise of their 2nd Amendment Bill of Rights applied by this law will also apply to the 1st Amendment.”
they are just dragging out Obama’s Fund Raising Tour
Republicans who voted to proceed were Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Saxby Chambliss (Ga.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Susan Collins (Maine). Bob Corker (Tenn.), Jeff Flake (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Dean Heller (Nev.), John Hoeven (N.D.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), John McCain (Ariz.), Pat Toomey (Pa.) and Roger Wicker (Miss.).
Now pulling the trigger speedily is evil!
Watch out 6-shooters from the Old West!
I am completely embarassed to be from Connecticut- but I am proud to say that I voted neither for Murphy nor Malloy.
Who are the so-called R’s that supported the Dem’s? Busterds!
Watching Mitch McConnell function as minority leader in the senate is like watching an old lady herd cats.
The cats wander all over the place and don’t even know they have a leader.
We've got 68 Democrat Senators? I thought the Repubs were closer than that......
See post #6. Traitors, the whole damn bunch.
Just what debate do these morons think they’re going to get from Reid and Co? This is disgusting.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. - 1764"
I don’t have to look at the roll call to KNOW that Obozo’s lapdog McCaskill voted to proceed. I didn’t see Blunt’s name among the turncoat RINO’s however so that seems encouraging at least in some small amount...
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Swell- We’ve coem to a pointi n history where our senate is ‘discussing’ whther the second amendmnet is valid or not- What next? What amendment is next? in just a few short months- We’ve goen frorm havign the right to own guns to a coutnry where our govenrment is ‘discussing’ whether they can confiscate those guns for ANY reason they like (while claiming someoen on anti-anxiety medications or who has ever takne thsoe meds is a ‘danger to society and therefore not ‘elligible’ to own a gun)
Wow Two out of Two. It is time We voted these two out of office.
It is a sad Day for Tennessee and our fight to keep our GOD given 2nd Amendment Rights.
Names of republicans to voted for open debate?
Names of Democrats you voted for debate/end cloture AND are up for reelection?
America is so freaking screwed.
They call themselves Republicans.
They are helping to destroy our country and have already destroyed the Republican party.
McStupid thinks that everything the Democrats do is fine because they are in the majority.
Democrats don’t even have to bother to show up They just vote party.Not one of those a-holes has a mind of their own.
Especially those two dipsticks from my state of Maryland.
First they came for my Guns.
Then they came for my Books.
Then they came for my Voice.
Then they came for my GOD.
Then they took my LIFE!!
There is a town in Georgia supposedly that has ‘mandated gun ownership’ and was encouraging, and was a state we were looking at to move to as it was one of the ‘most free states’ (top 5) in the US right now- but now you say your senators voted to proceed?
Proud to see that Arkansas’ Mark Pryor (D) voted against.
Really disappointed that so many who are allegedly on “our” side, openly betrayed the Constitution.
Look for him to cave on immigration also.
[[Then they came for my GOD.]]
They’ve already come for our God- They’ve kicked God out and invited Satan in which is why they are able to do all the other violations without beign opposed-
I voted for democrats? News tro me
I can’t wait to hear why Coburn voted aye when Inhofe voted no. Coburn is planing on introducing his own version, I know but it will get shot down. He is smart enough to know that!
[[America is so freaking screwed.]]
We have been screwed for a long time now- ever sicne Ginsburg and ilk began legislatign from the bench- and especially now that traitor John roberts gave the left the green light to violate our consitutional rights by proclaiming “The supreme court does not have an obligation to protect the peopel from bad choices- if you don’t liek your chocie you are then free to vote them out of office in the next election (although I’m not usre how law abiding citizsens who are arrested for some ilaegal law concocted by a teayrannical govenrment can vote from prison- perhapsd roberts can explain that to us? 4 years is a hell of a long time to wait while being opprerssed by a tryanicle govenremnt hell bwent on violating our constitutional rights
Reactionary laws rushed through always bode ill for the people at large. The tyrants must disarm the people before they can do what they want without fear.
According to the freaking news accounts, it was a &%$#%&&&^&^ PISTOL that was used, not a rifle of any kind. The shooting war is about ready to start - these idiots are begging for it.
How about any requirement imposed on the buying and selling of firearms also applies to voting. Picture I.D. background check, etc. How long would the Dems stand for that.
Everyone has their position. The time has long since gone when a senator can be convinced in honest debate - they are all bought off in one way or another.
They might as well vote on the bill now and get it over with... then we'll know who the enemy is.
Why can’t we get an enterprising Congresscreep to offer that amendment?
Rand Paul, where are you?
Love your idea.
I’m going to post a vanity, and see if we can attract attention.
Yeah, Hoeven voted with the liberals. I’m disgusted. Heitkamp did, too, but she’s a Dem the East side voted in and frankly, despite all her BS, I expected that (D’oh, she’s a Dem.).
“to curb gun violence” Rooters!
To infringe upon the 2nd!
COLD. DEAD. HANDS!
Molon baby ...
Dingy Harry gave him permission to vote against it only because it made no difference.
The idiots are too busy believing in their own importance to recognize reality.
In Canada, when long gun registration was required, it is estimated over half the firearms covered were not registered, and many of the registrations generated were full of erroneous or just plain bogus data.
Canada has no Second Amendment to rally behind.
Do they really think they will get even half of the tens of millions of arms they target?
Make criminals of us all, and we no longer have anything to lose. They don't want to pull the cork out of that bottle unless they want to destroy America.
Hammer. Nail. Bang.
I’m sure you have a source for that claim...
Doesn’t matter. A correct vote “is what it is”.
I’m sure Harry Reid gave permission to the few Republicans who voted against as well?
Are we really so small and petty that we can’t acknowledge a good decision on the part of an adversary? I’m not a cheerleader for the Republican team, I’m only interested in who is, or isn’t actively destroying my liberty. Today, Mark Pryor wasn’t, and I’m pleased by that.
Now we have a list of people to defeat in the primaries the next time around. Coburn is the real disappointment here, along with Ayotte. She, BTW, can kiss any Presidential or Vice Presidential ambitions goodbye.
These people have all LIED, they have massively and traitorously violated their oath of office and shirked their responsibility to protect our inalienable rights against infringement by the government...so screw them! I guarantee that I will be contributing to ANY candidate who is likely to defeat them in the primaries, and I may even contribute to their 'Rat opponents if they survive the primary - that will send a message to the rest of the hypocritical, statist bastards that treason will not be rewarded in any way.
Right now I have NO respect for any of these scumbags, and if they were on fire I wouldn't piss on them to put out the flames.
Make criminals of us all, and we no longer have anything to lose. They don’t want to pull the cork out of that bottle unless they want to destroy America.”
I gather you’re not from Arkansas and don’t really know much about the history of Mark Pryor or his daddy, David Pryor and the way they operate politically.
You gather correctly.
You are correct!! If Dirty Harry had needed his vote he would have been right there with the Dems. Vote his A$$ out next election.
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