Skip to comments.Gun Bill Passes Senate Cloture, Despite the Fact that No Senator Has Actually Seen It
Posted on 04/11/2013 10:02:11 AM PDT by Nachum
The gun bill passed cloture in the Senate with 68 votes today.
How does this happen, in what we are told is the worlds greatest deliberative body, when senators have not even seen the text of the legislation?
Speaking on the Senate floor minutes before the vote to move gun-control legislation forward, Mike Lee (R., Utah) urged postponing the cloture vote because none of his Senate colleagues has yet had a chance to read the entire bill. Were trying to prevent the ability of members to push through legislation before anyone has had the time to read and evaluate the language, Lee said. As of this morning, as of this very moment, not a single senator has been provided the legislative text of the background-check provision proposed yesterday by senators Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey, which Lee said was the centerpiece of this legislation.
The cloture vote does not guarantee that the bill will pass, but it does now put it up to a simple majority vote in the Senate. Democrats have the majority in the Senate, and often vote with their party rather than vote with what their constituents want. They did that very thing when they passed ObamaCare, and had not read that bill before passing it either. Democrat Mary Landrieu, for instance, is from a red state, but shell do what the party tells her to do after extracting some meaningless concessions. The pressure will then mount on the House to kill it. Obamas political army OFA is already emailing its minions to keep the pressure up on Congress to pass the bill which no one has actually read.
But table that for a minute. President Obama promised that America
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He//, it’s NOT even written!
” We have to pass it so we can know what’s in it...”
Someone...anyone...impeach all these traitorous freaks. Maybe they CAN’T read.
If true then why did 68 senators vote for it?
An Amendment that works no matter what’s in the bill:
“Any background checks, documentation, restrictions, waiting periods, or any other restrictions of this legislation on a citizen’s G-d-given Second Amendment Rights must be equally applied to each citizen’s right to VOTE and SPEAK.”
Almost 70% of the Senate are traitors and should be tried as such.
As a man thinketh, so IS he.
Just ask ANYone ever convicted of a crime on circumstantial eveidence .. no proof .. but the court decides .. we know what you're thinking.
THAT, I believe is some sort of precedent.
This was a Republican sell out from the Get-Go.
They are pushing this country towards civil war, they know it, and they want the people disarmed before the SHTF.
Anyone that thinks I’m paranoid is in for a real shock.
Hell is not hot enough for those R.I.N.O. traitors!!!
the senate is power hungry and need to be stopped - not only do they not have a bill but even if they have a bill, they do not have the power to alter the Bill of Rights with 2/3 majority - they need 2/3 in the senate, the house and - 2/3 of the states must ratify it.
this is insane
Just like healthcare.
It really hurts me to say this but I have more regards and respect, well just a teeny-tiny bit, for child molesters and robbers than I have for these politicians that sold us out. Still, no matter what, the whole lot deserve to be in prison. Unless Toomey has a lot of ‘splaining to do, all I can say is we got punk’d.
Big Deal, Cloture is not passing anything, it’s just agreeing to debate and vote on a proposed law. That and there is no constitution issues either. Filibusters and Clotures rules are created and adhered to at the whim and sole encumbrance of the Senate.
That aside, I would rather it was Filibustered.
Let hussein own it all.
Final passage of the bill only requires a majority of votes - 51 if all are present and voting.
“The pressure will then mount on the House to kill it.”
There's a big problem with that... it deprives others of the ownership they deserve: like the Supreme Court and the Congress.
I believe this was a filibuster of the motion to proceed to debate.
There will have to be another cloture vote to end debate.
No. The Senate RINO's want to disarm the American public as much as their Democrat pals.
This process started slowly when they surrendered their (our) power to regulate the value of money in 1913. But the last time Congress acted to guard its (our) powers was in the 1970s. Since then, it's been increasingly a charade to collect bribes and live the good life, increasingly invulnerable to being kicked out. They don't care who exactly makes decisions - POTUS, Supreme Court, Oprah or Ellen, no matter - as long as it's not them.
We've been following an illusion for almost 50 years now, and it's time we accept the truth - the Republic is overthrown, we have a junta in place which will prove most difficult to remove, now that the Commander-in-Chief knows what he wants and is clear about what he has to do to get it.
Of course, the Senate can't really pass legislation that hasn't been written yet - but that's just what they are about to do - for the children.
And if you think the House will stand up to the infotainment complex, which will be deployed in depth against the evil Republicans - if you believe that, you haven't been paying attention.
“We have to pass it so we can know what’s in it... “
Like a stool sample.
I think they have to have a cloture vote to end debate, as well.
I so despise these evil @%%&*()_rds!
That really sounds like the responsible thing to do.
Especially for RHINOs. Election time rolls around and they can cry foul and use the Rhetoric of :
“It was goin to pass anyway so we just moved it off the table so we could involve the Senate in more pressing issues, such as giving rights and freedoms to 11 million oppressed Undocumented Felons. Oops strike that,That: Er uh! Brothers from South of an Imaginary border that
Oppresses ManKind and you know need to have the same rights and Freedoms of their fellow Man in their Adopted Country!”
16 Republican Traitors who voted with Democrats to proceed:
Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.);
Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.);
Richard Burr (R-N.C.);
Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.);
Tom Coburn (R-Okla.);
Susan Collins (R-Maine);
Bob Corker (R-Tenn.);
Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.);
Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.);
Dean Heller (R-Nev.);
John Hoeven (R-N.D.);
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.);
Mark Kirk (R-Ill.);
John McCain (R-Ariz.);
Patrick Toomey (R-Pa.);
Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)
ALL the LIEberal Democrats who voted for it are Traitors!
Two LIEbeal Democrats voted “Nay,” but they are up for re-election in 2014 and needed political cover. They will probably vote “Aye” with their Rat brethren/sisteren on the final bill.
A stunning defeat for FReedom and Liberty!
Not what I heard, but I will check it out. Tnx.
Because they're RAT BASTARD SOCIALIST-FASCIST TREASONOUS TRAITORS who hate America, liberty, freedom AND our U.S. Constitution, and are hell bent on turning Amerika into a socialist hell-hole ruled over by totalitarian elitists.
They don’t care and they use it for their own selfish purposes.
I belive you are correct. I stand corrected if they adopt any amendments. Once amendmens are adopted, it is no longer the original bill and becomes subject to cloture vote.
Just like what Cuomo did in New York.
The end result will be more tyranny and more cases sent to the SCOTUS; more money and time wasted and more Americans oppressed by these would-be dictators of the Left.
The old line GOP doesn’t want the common people to have guns. None of the elite do. They only want their guards to be armed.
Funny thing is history has some eather interesting examples of when the guards stop guarding and start taking control.
What purpose is an international background check? It simply gets more gunowners’ names on the list.
Checks on individuals selling at gun shows? Who’s going to pay for that? Go out to the parking lot and buy one.
I think it only needs 50 votes to pass now??
Is that right?
Maybe, but it still has to go to the Congress. It’s not over yet.