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Gun Bill Passes Senate Cloture, Despite the Fact that No Senator Has Actually Seen It
The PJ Tatler ^ | 4/11/13 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 04/11/2013 10:02:11 AM PDT by Nachum

The gun bill passed cloture in the Senate with 68 votes today.

How does this happen, in what we are told is the world’s greatest deliberative body, when senators have not even seen the text of the legislation?

Speaking on the Senate floor minutes before the vote to move gun-control legislation forward, Mike Lee (R., Utah) urged postponing the cloture vote because none of his Senate colleagues has yet had a chance to read the entire bill. “We’re trying to prevent the ability of members to push through legislation before anyone has had the time to read and evaluate the language,” Lee said. “As of this morning, as of this very moment, not a single senator has been provided the legislative text of” the background-check provision proposed yesterday by senators Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey, which Lee said was the “centerpiece of this legislation.”

The cloture vote does not guarantee that the bill will pass, but it does now put it up to a simple majority vote in the Senate. Democrats have the majority in the Senate, and often vote with their party rather than vote with what their constituents want. They did that very thing when they passed ObamaCare, and had not read that bill before passing it either. Democrat Mary Landrieu, for instance, is from a red state, but she’ll do what the party tells her to do after extracting some meaningless concessions. The pressure will then mount on the House to kill it. Obama’s political army OFA is already emailing its minions to keep the pressure up on Congress to pass the bill — which no one has actually read.

But table that for a minute. President Obama promised that America

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bill; cloture; cwii; govtabuse; gun; guncontrol; secondamendment; senate; tyranny
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We have to pass it so we can know what's in it...
1 posted on 04/11/2013 10:02:11 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 04/11/2013 10:02:40 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

He//, it’s NOT even written!


3 posted on 04/11/2013 10:03:56 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

” We have to pass it so we can know what’s in it...”

Again.


4 posted on 04/11/2013 10:06:28 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Someone...anyone...impeach all these traitorous freaks. Maybe they CAN’T read.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 10:08:18 AM PDT by hal ogen (ll)
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To: Nachum

If true then why did 68 senators vote for it?


6 posted on 04/11/2013 10:08:42 AM PDT by linn37
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To: Nachum

An Amendment that works no matter what’s in the bill:

“Any background checks, documentation, restrictions, waiting periods, or any other restrictions of this legislation on a citizen’s G-d-given Second Amendment Rights must be equally applied to each citizen’s right to VOTE and SPEAK.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006706/posts


7 posted on 04/11/2013 10:10:53 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Nachum
68
roostersucking scumbag commie enemies of America.

Almost 70% of the Senate are traitors and should be tried as such.

As a man thinketh, so IS he.

Just ask ANYone ever convicted of a crime on circumstantial eveidence .. no proof .. but the court decides .. we know what you're thinking.

THAT, I believe is some sort of precedent.

8 posted on 04/11/2013 10:11:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Nachum

This was a Republican sell out from the Get-Go.

They are pushing this country towards civil war, they know it, and they want the people disarmed before the SHTF.

Anyone that thinks I’m paranoid is in for a real shock.


9 posted on 04/11/2013 10:11:56 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Nachum

Hell is not hot enough for those R.I.N.O. traitors!!!


10 posted on 04/11/2013 10:13:31 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Nachum

the senate is power hungry and need to be stopped - not only do they not have a bill but even if they have a bill, they do not have the power to alter the Bill of Rights with 2/3 majority - they need 2/3 in the senate, the house and - 2/3 of the states must ratify it.

this is insane


11 posted on 04/11/2013 10:13:48 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I'll surrender my guns alright - bullets first)
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To: Nachum
We have to pass it so we can know what's in it...

Just like healthcare.

12 posted on 04/11/2013 10:14:21 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nachum

It really hurts me to say this but I have more regards and respect, well just a teeny-tiny bit, for child molesters and robbers than I have for these politicians that sold us out. Still, no matter what, the whole lot deserve to be in prison. Unless Toomey has a lot of ‘splaining to do, all I can say is we got punk’d.


13 posted on 04/11/2013 10:17:43 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Nachum
This was, I believe, for two purposes. 1) to lower the bar for building the bill, as all amendments now can pass on simple (democrat) majorities. 2) this was also intended to set up the battlefield for 2014, get as much bad př for republicans as possible by pitting them as the evil meanies againstvthe children. I also wonder if the newtown parent filibuster of the filibuster may have looked like such a pr nightmare they decided against it. The dems are counting heavily on the propaganda value of the debates to make it very difficult to reject the final bill, which still requires 60 votes, as I recall. So its not by any means over, but it gets messier from here, even if we win.
14 posted on 04/11/2013 10:19:39 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Nachum
The Senate RINO’s have decided that they are tired of looking bad on CNN, so they are just in hurry to get the bill passed so the heat will shift to Boehner and the house. (Although I don't think it can pass the house, considering only 2 Republicans have voiced support and 30 red state democrats are saying they oppose it.) What we will be hearing for the next year from Obama and the liberal media is how “John Boeher’s Republican’s” killed a “common sense” bill that passed with bipartisan support in the Senate.
15 posted on 04/11/2013 10:20:18 AM PDT by apillar
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
and - 2/3 of the states must ratify it

3/4.

16 posted on 04/11/2013 10:21:35 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Nachum

Big Deal, Cloture is not passing anything, it’s just agreeing to debate and vote on a proposed law. That and there is no constitution issues either. Filibusters and Clotures rules are created and adhered to at the whim and sole encumbrance of the Senate.

That aside, I would rather it was Filibustered.


17 posted on 04/11/2013 10:25:15 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: OneWingedShark
Just like health care.

Obamacare...

Obamatroll...

Let hussein own it all.

.

18 posted on 04/11/2013 10:26:37 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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...the final bill, which still requires 60 votes...

Final passage of the bill only requires a majority of votes - 51 if all are present and voting.

19 posted on 04/11/2013 10:27:28 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Nachum

“The pressure will then mount on the House to kill it.”

Call Boehner.


20 posted on 04/11/2013 10:29:49 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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