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Gun Bill Passes Senate Cloture, Despite the Fact that No Senator Has Actually Seen It
The PJ Tatler ^ | 4/11/13 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 04/11/2013 10:02:11 AM PDT by Nachum

The gun bill passed cloture in the Senate with 68 votes today.

How does this happen, in what we are told is the world’s greatest deliberative body, when senators have not even seen the text of the legislation?

Speaking on the Senate floor minutes before the vote to move gun-control legislation forward, Mike Lee (R., Utah) urged postponing the cloture vote because none of his Senate colleagues has yet had a chance to read the entire bill. “We’re trying to prevent the ability of members to push through legislation before anyone has had the time to read and evaluate the language,” Lee said. “As of this morning, as of this very moment, not a single senator has been provided the legislative text of” the background-check provision proposed yesterday by senators Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey, which Lee said was the “centerpiece of this legislation.”

The cloture vote does not guarantee that the bill will pass, but it does now put it up to a simple majority vote in the Senate. Democrats have the majority in the Senate, and often vote with their party rather than vote with what their constituents want. They did that very thing when they passed ObamaCare, and had not read that bill before passing it either. Democrat Mary Landrieu, for instance, is from a red state, but she’ll do what the party tells her to do after extracting some meaningless concessions. The pressure will then mount on the House to kill it. Obama’s political army OFA is already emailing its minions to keep the pressure up on Congress to pass the bill — which no one has actually read.

But table that for a minute. President Obama promised that America

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bill; cloture; cwii; govtabuse; gun; guncontrol; secondamendment; senate; tyranny
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>> Just like health care.
>Let hussein own it all.

There's a big problem with that... it deprives others of the ownership they deserve: like the Supreme Court and the Congress.

21 posted on 04/11/2013 10:31:50 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nachum

I believe this was a filibuster of the motion to proceed to debate.

There will have to be another cloture vote to end debate.

22 posted on 04/11/2013 10:35:00 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: apillar
The Senate RINO’s have decided that they are tired of looking bad on CNN

No. The Senate RINO's want to disarm the American public as much as their Democrat pals.

23 posted on 04/11/2013 10:36:38 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Nachum
The Congress (which is supposed to be a surrogate for us (House) and the States (Senate)) - has been surrendering its (our) powers for a century, because they are terrified of losing the best jobs any of them will ever have.

This process started slowly when they surrendered their (our) power to regulate the value of money in 1913. But the last time Congress acted to guard its (our) powers was in the 1970s. Since then, it's been increasingly a charade to collect bribes and live the good life, increasingly invulnerable to being kicked out. They don't care who exactly makes decisions - POTUS, Supreme Court, Oprah or Ellen, no matter - as long as it's not them.

We've been following an illusion for almost 50 years now, and it's time we accept the truth - the Republic is overthrown, we have a junta in place which will prove most difficult to remove, now that the Commander-in-Chief knows what he wants and is clear about what he has to do to get it.

Of course, the Senate can't really pass legislation that hasn't been written yet - but that's just what they are about to do - for the children.

And if you think the House will stand up to the infotainment complex, which will be deployed in depth against the evil Republicans - if you believe that, you haven't been paying attention.

24 posted on 04/11/2013 10:36:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Nachum

“We have to pass it so we can know what’s in it... “

Like a stool sample.

25 posted on 04/11/2013 10:44:42 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TexasRedeye

I think they have to have a cloture vote to end debate, as well.

26 posted on 04/11/2013 11:02:35 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Nachum

I so despise these evil @%%&*()_rds!

27 posted on 04/11/2013 11:05:15 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

That really sounds like the responsible thing to do.

Especially for RHINOs. Election time rolls around and they can cry foul and use the Rhetoric of :
“It was goin to pass anyway so we just moved it off the table so we could involve the Senate in more pressing issues, such as giving rights and freedoms to 11 million oppressed Undocumented Felons. Oops strike that,That: Er uh! Brothers from South of an Imaginary border that
Oppresses ManKind and you know need to have the same rights and Freedoms of their fellow Man in their Adopted Country!”

28 posted on 04/11/2013 11:06:20 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Nachum

16 Republican Traitors who voted with Democrats to proceed:
Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.);
Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.);
Richard Burr (R-N.C.);
Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.);
Tom Coburn (R-Okla.);
Susan Collins (R-Maine);
Bob Corker (R-Tenn.);
Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.);
Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.);
Dean Heller (R-Nev.);
John Hoeven (R-N.D.);
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.);
Mark Kirk (R-Ill.);
John McCain (R-Ariz.);
Patrick Toomey (R-Pa.);
Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)

ALL the LIEberal Democrats who voted for it are Traitors!

Two LIEbeal Democrats voted “Nay,” but they are up for re-election in 2014 and needed political cover. They will probably vote “Aye” with their Rat brethren/sisteren on the final bill.

A stunning defeat for FReedom and Liberty!

29 posted on 04/11/2013 11:23:16 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: TexasRedeye

Not what I heard, but I will check it out. Tnx.

30 posted on 04/11/2013 11:33:29 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: linn37
If true then why did 68 senators vote for it?

Because they're RAT BASTARD SOCIALIST-FASCIST TREASONOUS TRAITORS who hate America, liberty, freedom AND our U.S. Constitution, and are hell bent on turning Amerika into a socialist hell-hole ruled over by totalitarian elitists.

31 posted on 04/11/2013 11:37:03 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Nachum

They don’t care and they use it for their own selfish purposes.

32 posted on 04/11/2013 12:34:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: MortMan

I belive you are correct. I stand corrected if they adopt any amendments. Once amendmens are adopted, it is no longer the original bill and becomes subject to cloture vote.

33 posted on 04/11/2013 12:36:16 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Nachum

Just like what Cuomo did in New York.

The end result will be more tyranny and more cases sent to the SCOTUS; more money and time wasted and more Americans oppressed by these would-be dictators of the Left.

34 posted on 04/11/2013 3:04:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The old line GOP doesn’t want the common people to have guns. None of the elite do. They only want their guards to be armed.

Funny thing is history has some eather interesting examples of when the guards stop guarding and start taking control.

35 posted on 04/11/2013 3:43:43 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

What purpose is an international background check? It simply gets more gunowners’ names on the list.

Checks on individuals selling at gun shows? Who’s going to pay for that? Go out to the parking lot and buy one.

36 posted on 04/11/2013 8:58:32 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Nachum

I think it only needs 50 votes to pass now??

Is that right?

37 posted on 04/11/2013 9:02:50 PM PDT by GeronL (
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To: GeronL

Maybe, but it still has to go to the Congress. It’s not over yet.

38 posted on 04/11/2013 9:07:00 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at
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