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The "Who Needs a Ferrari, Anyway?" Argument for Gun Bans
Backwoods Engineer Blog ^ | 11 April 2013 | The Backwoods Engineer

Posted on 04/11/2013 10:28:56 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer

Biden made a huge admission this morning on MSNBC, network of gun banners:

"It used to be we were dealing almost exclusively with hunters," Biden said on MSNBC.

"There's a whole new sort of group of individuals now who, I don’t know what the numbers are, that never hunt at all but they own guns for one of two reasons: self protection or they just like the feel of that AR-15 at the range.” “They like the way it feels. You know, it’s like driving a Ferrari," [Biden] said, raising his arms as if shooting a gun.

Biden's comments illustrate they now know they have lost the "nobody need an AR-15 to go 'a' huntin'" argument, because Gun Culture 2.0 is not primarily about hunting. Given Bloomberg's ham-fisted attack ads with the New-York-actor caricature of all gun owners as hunters, it figures that our enemies would soon get some better intel. And they have.

The Left has switched tactics to "you need to give up your little hobby horse. Who needs a Ferrari, anyway?"

This is good, and bad, for us, defenders of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.

One good thing is that the opposition now admits that the 2nd Amendment is as US v. Heller describes, that is, not just for "sporting purposes." That's an admission we've been waiting for from the left.

The bad thing is that Biden's "hobby car" argument will almost certainly be swallowed whole by the low-information voter and low-intelligence senators. After all, Biden says:

“What is the inconvenience? ... What are we doing to impact on a gun owners’ right if he only has a clip with ten rounds in it instead of 30 rounds in it?” [Biden] asked.

'Inconvenience' describes something you give up that you can live without, and that's the Biden's point: it's just another hobby, like stamp collecting. Every time the gun banners try to ban guns or magazines, which do nothing to address violence (quite the opposite), they act like we should just roll over, because the 'inconvenience' is minor. After all, Biden says, it's just a hobby, like driving a Ferrari. "Who the hell needs a Ferrari?", Biden is saying.

Oh, and for bonus Marx points, Biden employs class envy. The green envy monster. Biden is employing envy to turn the lower classes against those "Ferrari" owners.

Look, Biden's premise is completely wrong. 'Inconvenience' is not something that should be discussed in the context of fundamental rights. We the People have a fundamental right to keep and bear arms-- determined by US v. Miller to be "militia weapons" and US v. Heller to be those "in common use" -- and those rights "shall not be infringed" by the government.

But, the hysterical rantings of a superannuated, fish-out-of-water-in-the-burbs, backwoods hillbilly from West Virginia do not matter. The Senate will vote to ban these Ferraris. Who needs one, anyway?


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KEYWORDS: banglist; biden; guncontrol; joeblows; plugsbiden; secondamendment
At Backwoods Engineer Blog today, I break down and refute the Left's latest argument for gun control, articulated this morning by "Plugs" Biden: "Who needs a Ferrari, anyway?"

Full text posted on FR as always for my FRiends. Not "pimping blogs" here, but I do appreciate a click, and give you value for doing so: multiple links to relevant stories and court cases buried in the text, and some nice pictures of Ferraris and AR-15s to look at.

1 posted on 04/11/2013 10:28:56 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer
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To: backwoods-engineer
So, why did Rosa Parks "need" to sit in the front of the bus?

(And I haven't seen "bus" in the Constitution anywhere.)

2 posted on 04/11/2013 10:30:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Full text posted on FR as always for my FRiends.


3 posted on 04/11/2013 10:32:17 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: backwoods-engineer

Where does it say in the constitution I can’t have a Ferrari?


4 posted on 04/11/2013 10:37:19 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: backwoods-engineer

It’s The Bill of RIGHTS, not the bill of needs.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 10:37:56 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: humblegunner

LOL! I am using that symbol! Thanks!


6 posted on 04/11/2013 10:41:17 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Precisely. They have turned “to secure the blessings of liberty” into “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs [determined exclusively by the State]”


7 posted on 04/11/2013 10:44:48 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Puppage

It is to a Marxist. “Abilities” and “needs”, determined by the State, is the only way they see the world. “Freedom? What’s that?”, the Marxist asks.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 10:45:58 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: backwoods-engineer

It is not a Bill of “Needs” as determined by the government. It is a Bill of Rights to let the individual decide how to implement them.


9 posted on 04/11/2013 10:49:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
The question “do you really need.... “ automatically puts us on the defensive. The question needs to be thrown back “what is accomplished by giving up one of our fundamental rights?”

That's what needs to be weighed in the balance - rights versus some dubious but no more than tiny increase in safety.

10 posted on 04/11/2013 10:51:12 AM PDT by DManA
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To: backwoods-engineer

As usual, Joe hasn’t thought it through. “If you can’t prove to me that you need one, you can’t have one,” are the words of a dictator no matter what the object is.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 10:53:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Smokin' Joe

FUJB


12 posted on 04/11/2013 10:54:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Who needs more than two terms in any government office?


13 posted on 04/11/2013 10:57:44 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I clicked your link BECAUSE you posted full-text


14 posted on 04/11/2013 11:01:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Full text posted on FR as always for my FRiends. Not “pimping blogs” here, but I do appreciate a click, and give you value for doing so: multiple links to relevant stories and court cases buried in the text, and some nice pictures of Ferraris and AR-15s to look at.

BTTT


15 posted on 04/11/2013 11:04:58 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: backwoods-engineer

A full auto SAW would be the Ferarri. An AR-15 with 30 rd magazines is just a Lexus, an SUV, or a Caddy. Let’s rephrase this in terms that the LIVs can unnerstan’.


16 posted on 04/11/2013 11:10:10 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I think a good refutation to this is to use Biden’s own analogy. That is, not specifically a Ferrari, but “Who needs a car?”

Joe Biden doesn’t think you need a car. You can walk, ride a bicycle for miles every day, or take a public bus seated between a foul smelling wino and a man who keeps trying to show you something he’s carrying in a greasy paper bag.

Joe Biden thinks that cars should only be for those that need them, like politicians and those who work for them.

They *need* cars. Ordinary people don’t.


17 posted on 04/11/2013 11:12:16 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Watch out, they are going to ban Ferraris next.

I have shot an M-16, it was nothing like driving a Ferrari, or even a Harley. What a doofus.


18 posted on 04/11/2013 11:13:31 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: DonkeyBonker

So if I crash my Ferarri (i don’t really have one) then should you have your F150 banned?


19 posted on 04/11/2013 11:38:13 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Silly Billy Biden mixing apples and oranges again.
Focus, Joe Bob!


20 posted on 04/11/2013 11:38:46 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
...self defense or they just like the feel...

And then his plugness proceeds to completely ignore the self defense part of his own statement. This whole administration is stupidly evil.

21 posted on 04/11/2013 11:44:26 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

There is but one consumer product, the ownership of which is protected by the Bill of Rights. It is not health care, birth control, or even necessities like food, shelter or transportation. It is the GUN! If congress decides that it CAN infringe on that right based on need, then the president is easily made to ban other consumer products NOT protected by the Bill of Rights, based on need and death toll of those products. Goodbye swimming pools, sports cars, ATVs, parachutes, speed boats, skis, golf carts, and on and on and on.


22 posted on 04/11/2013 12:30:53 PM PDT by Boiling point (Socialism; Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Bryanw92

Good one!


23 posted on 04/11/2013 12:31:24 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Lazamataz
I clicked your link BECAUSE you posted full-text

Thanks, Laz. That means a lot to me.

24 posted on 04/11/2013 12:32:22 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: backwoods-engineer
I don't own an assault weapon.
Those were tightly restricted by the National Firearms Act of 1934.

I do own a Tyranny Response Rifle and I own it for the same
reason our Founding Fathers preferred rifles over muskets.
It kills tyrants better. Sic semper tyrannis!

MOLON LAVE

25 posted on 04/11/2013 2:51:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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Joe Biden is a career politician who makes Donald Duck look like Einstein and who never ONCE opened his mouth without sticking his foot in.

He was the only VP candidate hussein could find even stupider than himself.


26 posted on 04/11/2013 3:37:09 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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