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North Korea Launch Zone Found
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | April 11, 2013 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 04/11/2013 1:12:32 PM PDT by SatinDoll

U.S. and allied intelligence agencies have identified the launch zone on North Korea’s east coast...

The North Koreans recently began fueling two road-mobile Musudan intermediate-range ballistic missiles located along the east coast between the cities of Wonsan and Hamhung,..

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in addition to the 2,500-mile-range Musudans the North Koreans could conduct test firings of several 620-mile-range Nodong missiles and shorter-range Scuds simultaneously as a way to thwart U.S. missile defenses.

Unlike earlier launches, the North Koreans are not expected to provide advance warning of the timing for the launches, such as announcing a sea and air closure zone, because of heightened U.S. and Japanese missile defenses.

The Pentagon has at least four missile-interceptor ships in the region equipped with SM-3 interceptors. Additionally, long-range interceptors based in Alaska and California are ready to counter any missiles fired toward the United States.

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“The United States and Japan are preparing to shoot down the missiles if they fly over Japanese territory or are aimed at U.S. bases in the region,” said one official.

The missile tests would be banned under U.N. Security Council resolutions passed after earlier long-range missile tests by North Korea.

(Excerpt) Read more at freebeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: japan; korea; missilesattackes; musudan; nkorea; northkorea; nuclear; waronterror
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This is a detailed article with good information and well worth reading in its entirety.
1 posted on 04/11/2013 1:12:32 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

There is a lot of mis- amd dis- information posted about this lately, mostly from foreign sources.

I highly respect Gertz so I will take this seriously.

BUMP!


2 posted on 04/11/2013 1:17:04 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: SatinDoll

Not much of a scoop, though, we’ve been discussing the same info for days, including the launch zone. Gertz needs to get out more.


3 posted on 04/11/2013 1:17:11 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: SatinDoll

Read it earlier this morning....good info.

When I first saw the headline my initial reaction was “I didn’t know it had been lost.....”


4 posted on 04/11/2013 1:17:36 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Jean S

Ditto!


5 posted on 04/11/2013 1:21:40 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SatinDoll

Someone should send a text to Bammie out on the Golf Course.

He may like to know this.


6 posted on 04/11/2013 1:22:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SatinDoll

http://nwww.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130411000741

good background


7 posted on 04/11/2013 1:24:03 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: SatinDoll

I suppose that there is at least one military satellite that has been parked over NK for some time. The military knows much more than the would ever talk about.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 1:30:10 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SatinDoll

Was the launch zone missing?


9 posted on 04/11/2013 1:37:46 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

That is the title of the article and required for posting.


10 posted on 04/11/2013 1:41:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Why hasn’t Congress passed a resolution granting the President approval for preemptively taking out North Korea’s launch facilities and nuclear weapons production facilities?

1. North Korea has declared it will strike the U.S.
2. We grant the President approval for a preemptive strike
against North Korea.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 1:56:27 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: mbarker12474

I don’t know why Congress hasn’t passed such a resolution: perhaps it is dysfunctional. That would be my guess.

Boehner and McConnell seem to be flummoxed all the time.

And who really believes anyway, that BHO2 would recognize his duty as Commander-in-Chief, comply and fire-off a preemptive strike against fellow Marxists?

Keep in mind, folks, that BHO2 stated in his “autobiography” that he was a Marxist-Leninist while attending Occidental College. There are former students who were there at the same time, were acquainted with him and who verify the claim.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 2:06:13 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: All
What the Hell is this I just heard on CNN (tv in other room -- I don't watch it).

Defense Intelligence Agency report says NK does have deliverable nuclear weapons via ballistic missiles!!!

13 posted on 04/11/2013 2:07:35 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86
A study just completed by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency says North Korea may have nuclear weapons that could be delivered by ballistic missiles, a congressman said Thursday.

The revelation came from Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colorado, during a House Intelligence Committee hearing.

"Quoting from the unclassified portion, which I believe has not yet been made public, they say, quote, 'DIA assesses with moderate confidence the North currently has nuclear weapons capable of delivering by ballistic missiles. However, the reliability will be low.'" Lamborn told Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, who was testifying before the committee.

Lamborn asked Dempsey if he agreed with the assessment. Dempsey appeared to be caught off guard.

"Well, I haven't seen it," Dempsey replied. "And you said it's not publicly released, so I -- I choose not to comment on it."


14 posted on 04/11/2013 2:12:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: gandalftb

You see #13, 14?


15 posted on 04/11/2013 2:13:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: SatinDoll
I vote we go full "Osirak" on 'em. Of course, I have 0 belief we will given the quisling occupier in the Oval Office.
16 posted on 04/11/2013 2:15:02 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SatinDoll

50 megaton delivered at 1000 feet detonation.. should do the job .. next


17 posted on 04/11/2013 2:16:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: SatinDoll

If NK tries for Guam we and they each get a test.

They test their missle.

We test our defense against missles.

Guam hoping for a good outcome.


18 posted on 04/11/2013 2:17:18 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: SatinDoll

““The United States and Japan are preparing to shoot down the missiles if they fly over Japanese territory or are aimed at U.S. bases in the region,” said one official.”

This is what bugs me. Why the condition? Why don’t we tell them that anything leaving the ground and going up will be shot down. It is MUCH, MUCH, easier to shoot these things down at the beginning of their ride, than trying to hit them at Mach 10 (or whatever) as they prepare to strike a (hopefully Blue) city.


19 posted on 04/11/2013 2:17:25 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; driftdiver; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; ...

Pinging some people on last night’s thread to 13, 14


20 posted on 04/11/2013 2:18:09 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: SatinDoll

To be fair, we should consult Mr. Macnamara (he is still alive, no?) and go bomb some non-strategic wood piles. That’ll show ‘em.


21 posted on 04/11/2013 2:22:10 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: SaxxonWoods

And Commie China reaps all of the ISR education of a lifetime.


22 posted on 04/11/2013 2:22:10 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

What would President Bush do? Or President Reagan?


23 posted on 04/11/2013 2:27:12 PM PDT by Rapscallion (The opposite of justice is charity.)
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To: BobL

“...Why don’t we tell them that anything leaving the ground and going up will be shot down...”

I read you alright. The following third paragraph from the article:

“The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in addition to the 2,500-mile-range Musudans the North Koreans could conduct test firings of several 620-mile-range Nodong missiles and shorter-range Scuds simultaneously as a way to thwart U.S. missile defenses.”

Ahh, crafty Norks! They anticipated that move.


24 posted on 04/11/2013 2:28:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

The Norks, anticipating our every move, are no doubt engaged in positioning decoy hardware for us to follow.


25 posted on 04/11/2013 2:40:34 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: SaxxonWoods

Actually, they test their missile, we test shooting it down and we test our own missile and see if they can shoot it down.


26 posted on 04/11/2013 2:47:30 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: mbarker12474

“Why hasn’t Congress passed a resolution granting the President approval for preemptively taking out North Korea’s launch facilities and nuclear weapons production facilities?”

That’s a great question considering N. Korea is still at war with the UN. Some would argue that since we are technically still at war, the president already has the authority. On the other hand, Congress never formally declared war on N. Korea, so others would argue that the war was illegal in the first place.

I don’t think a lack of authorization is the issue, but rather, a lack of governmental will.


27 posted on 04/11/2013 2:51:15 PM PDT by Owl558 (Think twice before speaking once)
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To: SparkyBass
"To be fair, we should consult Mr. Macnamara (he is still alive, no?) ..."

Former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara is deceased
(b. June 9, 1916, d. Nov. 6, 2009 ).

28 posted on 04/11/2013 2:55:54 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye

Well, I’m sure the military is nearly back to his processes anyway! :) Appeasement!
(shows you how much I cared to look it up :) )


29 posted on 04/11/2013 3:01:01 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: NormsRevenge

50 MT? Dont need anywhere near that big. 1 MT would be more than enough.


30 posted on 04/11/2013 3:07:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
We each get a test ... as soon as they test fire their missle, we should test fire one of ours ... MIRV equipped.
31 posted on 04/11/2013 3:07:38 PM PDT by Dracomeister (The older I get the less I care about what other people think.)
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To: steve86

Thanks, my wife just told me this was confirmed on SK national media this morning.

Biological and nuclear were both mentioned. SK also has a big stockpile of chemical.


32 posted on 04/11/2013 3:08:47 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I’m pretty sure we don’t have a Tsar Bomba lying around anyway.


33 posted on 04/11/2013 3:14:37 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SatinDoll

Please tell me that Nancy Pelosi’s district is in range.


34 posted on 04/11/2013 3:15:56 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
Please tell me that Nancy Pelosi’s district is in range.

Oh ya mean that district and state with the most military bases/Naval weapons/military personnel/and DOD R&D stuff in the U.S? We'd be much better off if NK missile malfunctioned and stuck somewhere like a corn field in South Dakota where you live.

35 posted on 04/11/2013 3:28:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

No, if San Fran were destroyed, there might be a voter balance change such that Rats and the heathen criminal enterprise are out of the running


36 posted on 04/11/2013 3:32:05 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: EEGator

I once read somewhere that 4 or so of those 50MT firecrackers ,if they were detonated in a short span of time, placed correctly, could split the planet apart. Of course we have all read all sorts of things about nukes over the years, I just remember that as I thought it was interesting. No doubt, a 50MT is a big bang. Isn’t that what the Tsar was rated? Or was it more? Didn’t they actually reduce it some, because they were afraid the bomber couldn’t get away?


37 posted on 04/11/2013 3:41:43 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: BobL

-— This is what bugs me. Why the condition? ——

I’m with you.

But worse than that, do you have any confidence that Zippy would retaliate against a first strike?

I think he’d celebrate, in private. This time he’ll be smart enough to appear in a meeting, in the aftermath. He’ll look very concerned.


38 posted on 04/11/2013 3:42:42 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Quickgun

Hardly, Tsar Bomba create a five mile diameter fireball in open air. Below-ground crater size, for a buried detonation, might be a little bigger. Zone of total destruction above ground (burning; pressure damage) was about a 50 mile radius. Earth is just under 8,000 miles diameter. Not much chance a rock that size is going to crumble based on those little firecrackers.


39 posted on 04/11/2013 3:46:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: bert
Yeah, lets hope NK kills millions in the U.S.

More fun jokes bert? You're so funny!

Hey, maybe since NK have one of the largest stockpiles of chemical/bio weapons in the world, maybe they'll be able to set one off in the U.S. and most of the population will be affected or infected!

A ton of laughs....Go get um bert!

40 posted on 04/11/2013 3:59:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Quickgun

Tsar Bomba was originally designed to be 100MT(I think) but then they reduced it to 50-57MT (I think) I think another reason for reduction was the level of fallout created.

I don’t think the theory about four well placed 50MT is correct. Super volcanoes, say Yellowstone caldera, are believed to be around 200 or so Megatons.


41 posted on 04/11/2013 3:59:47 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SatinDoll

Nothing is going to come of this... the Norks like to play this brinksmanship game from time to time. Sure pays off for Obama as it takes the minds of the sheeple away from the domestic stuff that really matters.


42 posted on 04/11/2013 4:01:33 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: SatinDoll
So TARGET THEM and DESTROY the missiles as soon as they leave the launch pad! If little coke-head Kim Jon Long Dong doesn't like it tell him that he should think twice about declaring war on America and her allies and then following through with his threats by lighting off his rockets.

One more thing, don't give North Korea ANYTHING, not even ONE grain of rice or ONE drop of oil! That is what this whole kabuki theater dance is all about. Little coke-head's entire country, except for the fortunate few, is STARVING to death. The whole mess is about to collapse into the dustbin of history and his fate will end up along side Mussolini, Chauchesque (sp?), Sadam Insane and Kadaffie Duck. The kid is walking dead meat. He just doesn't want to believe it yet. When, not if North Korea collapses the starving millions are going to tear little FAT BOY apart and eat him! The day that happens, the whole free world will rejoice.

Can little coke-head fat boy shoot off some missiles, destroy part or all of South Korea... sure. BUT he is a dead man the second he does so and the minute his troops see the wealth of the South and all of the food... they will know that their own government has LIED to them for decades and little coke-head fat boy, along with all of their oppressors will be grist for the mill.

43 posted on 04/11/2013 4:03:39 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Not in a happy place watching the news tonight.

Media refusing to cover Gosnell trial of abortion clinic..

IRS within the law reading personal e-mails

Senate moving ahead with plans to make it difficult for people to purchase firearms

and Obama on the news giving North Korea a stern warning to stop being so belligerent...will it be a test that lands in the pacific or multiple missiles launched with potential nuclear warheads... I don’t know but I sure as hell hope somebody does.

Regardless how it all this ends.... we had a snow day today and made snowmen with our four children in 7 inches of wet spring snow. We are thankful and trust God and pray for his Mercy, though we don’t deserve it.


44 posted on 04/11/2013 4:05:29 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: dragnet2

It can be argued that San Fran is not really America but like the north east is neoEuropa


45 posted on 04/11/2013 4:12:01 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: NormsRevenge
50 megaton delivered at 1000 feet detonation.. should do the job .. next

They could wipe out a flock of geese, which would really tick off PETA.

46 posted on 04/11/2013 4:16:11 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: SatinDoll

47 posted on 04/11/2013 4:16:22 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: SatinDoll

The latest, just reported on Fox News, is that an ‘accidentally’ declassifed portion of an intelligence analysis on North Korea was read in Congress today aloud, and it revealed that the U.S. intelligence community believes with ‘a moderate level of confidence’ that the North Koreans do indeed have the capability to put a nuke on an ICBM. The government has been lying to us for years, and the jug-eared pussy in the White Hut is probably sh!tting his drawers now that the truth is out.


48 posted on 04/11/2013 4:18:38 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: longfellowsmuse

This week has been particularly discouraging.

Taking it one day at a time, and praying. The sun has to come out sometime.


49 posted on 04/11/2013 4:57:54 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: The Great RJ

Bomb Pelosi’s district?

Why would the Norks bonb an ally?


50 posted on 04/11/2013 5:11:19 PM PDT by bobcat62
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