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Heads up: Pentagon report suggests North Korea might already have nuclear missiles
Hotair ^ | 04/11/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/11/2013 4:57:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via Eli Lake, who had a separate timely piece this morning quoting experts who think the world should be taking this latest NorK tantrum more seriously than it is. Fast-forward to this afternoon’s House Armed Services Committee hearing with Hagel and Joint Chiefs Chair Martin Dempsey. Lake:

According to the [Defense Intelligence Agency] report, “DIA assesses with moderate confidence the North currently has nuclear weapons capable of delivery by ballistic missiles however the reliability will be low.” That line was read aloud by Rep. Doug Lamborn, a Republican from Colorado, on Thursday during a House Armed Services Committee hearing. Lamborn was questioning Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, who seemed taken aback and declined to answer the question, saying, “I haven’t seen it and you said it’s not publicly released so I choose not to comment on it.”…

The DIA’s conclusion also has implications for how the U.S. assesses progress on Iran’s nuclear program. North Korea has shared advanced missile technology with Iran, according to a February 2010 diplomatic cable disclosed the same year by Wikileaks. North Korean engineers were also found at the Syrian nuclear site bombed by Israel in 2007 known as al-Kibar, according to photos released by the U.S. government nearly a year after the strike.

If NK knows how to miniaturize nukes and stick them in missile warheads, Iran eventually will too. I’m not sure what that bit about “reliability” in the excerpt means, though. Does it mean their missiles are so rickety that they’d fail in the air, as as has happened before? Or does it mean they could hit something on the ground but probably not the specific target they’re aiming it? There’s not much comfort in the latter: Imagine Kim deciding he’s going to flex the ultimate muscle by nuking some uninhabited atoll and instead he hits Japan or Guam. Nuclear war, full stop. Michael Totten wonders, what if Kim’s serious this time?

Kim almost certainly isn’t serious, but what if he is? How would we know? His attention-seeking theatrics are identical to the behavior of a lunatic hell-bent on blowing the region apart. If war breaks out next month, everyone who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention to the Korean Peninsula will slap their forehead and see, with the clarity of hindsight, that every warning we could possibly need, want, and expect was right there in front of us.

The North Korean military is nothing like Saddam Hussein’s or Moammar Qaddafi’s. Pyongyang has such an enormous array of artillery batteries targeting South Korea (the capital, Seoul, is only 30 or so miles away from the border) that hundreds of thousands of people could be killed over the weekend. North Korea would eventually lose at the hands of South Korea and the United States. It would be finished forever as a state. But the cost in lives would be unspeakable.

The regime is like a honeybee. It can sting only once, then it dies. But it’s like a honeybee the size of a grizzly bear.

Read this Time piece about the significance of April 15, Kim Il-Sung’s birthday, to North Korean saber-rattling. The Kims do tend to get a bit friskier in early April per Time’s chronology. Cross your fingers for an uneventful weekend, as unlikely as that now seems. Even Dick Cheney’s worried. Exit question: How on earth is it that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff hasn’t yet seen the report Lamborn’s quoting here?

Update: A defense expert at British think tank tells the Times, “They now have a deliverable warhead,” albeit no missile — yet — that could reach American soil beyond bases in Japan. Does Iran have a deliverable warhead too?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Japan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: japan; missiles; nkorea; northkorea; pentagon; waronterror

1 posted on 04/11/2013 4:57:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


2 posted on 04/11/2013 4:59:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SeekAndFind

We know they can put an object in orbit. Is this nuke small enough for their rocket to put in orbit?


3 posted on 04/11/2013 5:03:16 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This better not be a ‘never let a crises go to waste’ moment.


4 posted on 04/11/2013 5:04:59 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: driftdiver

Apparently so.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 5:05:28 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s to stop the current government to launch an EMP nuke into orbit and set it off over Kansas??

And I am NOT talking about Norte Korea here...


6 posted on 04/11/2013 5:11:34 PM PDT by GraceG
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7 posted on 04/11/2013 5:16:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: SeekAndFind

They should be nuked the second they initiate a launch. Too bad the president is on their side.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 5:19:46 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heads up? Shouldn’t that be “duck and cover”?


9 posted on 04/11/2013 5:23:52 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: driftdiver
If you can put anything in orbit you are pretty much guaranteed to have ICBM capability.

They are a lot more concerned about the news of it getting out than the fact of it.

10 posted on 04/11/2013 5:56:48 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Caipirabob

‘North Korea would eventually lose at the hands of South Korea and the United States.’

That is provided we get involved. If we are underestimating what Kim is doing then we are probably overestimating what Obama will do or even want to do. In other words, we are probably in deep doodoo.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 6:23:59 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: SeekAndFind

The Pentagon knows they have nukes. The Pentagon knows they have missile that reach outer space. The leader of the North Koreasn has threatened to nuks the United States and FINALLY he Pentagon says maybe they have a nuclear missile.

Whatever gave them that idea.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 6:25:52 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

Bttt.


13 posted on 04/11/2013 6:28:44 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: taterjay

If the north launches a pre-emptive strike, the south may not have time to respond and we immediately lose 29,000 soldiers. I don’t believe the Obama administration will retaliate. They will wait and see and by then, the north will already have occupied the south. If we don’t respond immediately, China may eventually get involved to support the north as they want the buffer zone between them and the west.


14 posted on 04/11/2013 6:35:17 PM PDT by dougiefresh
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To: SeekAndFind

But, but, but,,, some in here say we have nothing to worry about!


15 posted on 04/11/2013 6:59:14 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: SeekAndFind

Nonsense.

Educate yourselves:

http://allthingsnuclear.org/what-can-north-koreas-missiles-reach/


16 posted on 04/11/2013 7:09:18 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

Just because a NK missile will not reach the U S, but can reach Japan...does not mean it is not a threat. That sort of crises would surely broaden beyond those areas, should it ever occur.


17 posted on 04/11/2013 7:13:23 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: gandalftb

I think the jury’s still out on who’s spewing the nonsense here.


18 posted on 04/11/2013 7:17:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: SeekAndFind

19 posted on 04/11/2013 7:19:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

No big surprise. I would expect the Norks could put a ~5kt nuclear device onto a Scud or Nodong missile.

Can they put one on their three-stage Unha rocket? Not yet. Moreover they still lack anything like a viable ICBM.


20 posted on 04/11/2013 7:28:18 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: SeekAndFind

‘US Admiral says global warming dwarfs North Korea threat’

Remain clam.


21 posted on 04/11/2013 8:17:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: dougiefresh

While no one’s looking China takes Taiwan.


22 posted on 04/11/2013 9:07:18 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: GraceG; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; NormsRevenge; neverdem; Fred Nerks
I have not seen a discussion regarding the size of an EMP muke.

We have said their nukes tested were low yield ....but could an EMP nuke also show a seismic record as a low yield nuke.

23 posted on 04/11/2013 10:05:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: tumblindice

Time to remove THAT admiral.


24 posted on 04/11/2013 10:07:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: SeekAndFind



NKOREA: 'Powerful striking means' on standby...
WATCHCON 2...
US intelligence reveals launch zone...
Pentagon Deploys Sea Radar...
Kerry requests China pressure...
FLASHBACK: Declared Missile Defense System 'Cancer On Our Nation'...
INSIDE NKOREA: SHOCK PHOTOS...



THEY HAVE NUKES!

25 posted on 04/11/2013 10:16:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I fear North Korea has or will soon have developed the means to mate their nuclear devices onto their longest range rocket systems.
This problem is not going to lessen at this point.
The Chinese and Russians had better get off their fat asses and realize there is to much at stake for them as well as for the rest of the world, and convince this little bastard bonehead he and his military had better back off.
26 posted on 04/11/2013 11:22:16 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: JoeProBono

Love it - thanks!


27 posted on 04/11/2013 11:23:18 PM PDT by MarMema
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