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Feinstein reintroduces AWB as amendment to Manchin/Toomey bill
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Posted on 04/12/2013 10:30:14 AM PDT by backpacker_c

While most in the media have harped the bipartisan compromise concerning universal background checks by manchin and toomey, little notice has been given to the fact that feinstein has reintroduced her assault weapon ban as amendments to the manchin/toomey bill.

To see the amendments, go to thomas.loc.gov at the url posted. Then go to 'amendments'. Next, click on each amendment (e.g.711), then 'text of amendment as submitted' to see text of the amendment.


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KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; bloodoftyrants; communism; democrats; feinstein; feinsteins357magnum; govtabuse; guncontrol; liberalfascism; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty; youwillnotdisarmus
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While this is an amendment that still has to be voted on, little notice has been given to the awb being added as an amendment to the manchin/toomey bill. Please spread this information, as the pressure needs to be repeated that no further control measures are acceptable (even though boehner may have revealed that the fix was in - http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/11/Boehner-Hastert-Rule).
1 posted on 04/12/2013 10:30:14 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

2 posted on 04/12/2013 10:31:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: backpacker_c

Well of course she does. She wouldn’t be doing her masters bidding if she didn’t. No surprise here. Can you order up a security detail whenever you feel the need? I can. Llama .38 super. Boo yah!


3 posted on 04/12/2013 10:32:16 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: backpacker_c

Did Feinswine pass the sixth grade yet?


4 posted on 04/12/2013 10:34:37 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Keep your eyes on Jesus. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.)
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To: backpacker_c

FreeRepublic noticed:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3007084/posts


5 posted on 04/12/2013 10:35:48 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: backpacker_c

Manchin/Toomey sounds simple, but has some real unintended consequences (actually probably intended). Now we start adding amedments and we will be doubly screwed.

We don’t have a gun problem. We have a criminal management problem. The 2A wasn’t written to be contingent on future crime statistics.


6 posted on 04/12/2013 10:36:15 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: backpacker_c

The pubbies should vote yes on it. That way the bill will be unpassable when voting on the full bill. There are too many dumbocrats (including Joe Manchin) who could not vote for an AWB without being unemployed the next time they are up for re-election.


7 posted on 04/12/2013 10:36:53 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (t)
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To: backpacker_c

No more laws, period.

Its not about safety, its about control.


8 posted on 04/12/2013 10:37:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
The pubbies should vote yes on it. That way the bill will be unpassable when voting on the full bill.

Good strategy idea. Maybe they should have tried this with O'CommieCare.

9 posted on 04/12/2013 10:41:20 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: centurion316

opps... did search and it didn’t come up. thanks for the info.

Anyway, I think it’s important to spread the word to other firearm forums, so it doesn’t surprise anyone that feinstein is trying to do an end run around the legislative process.


10 posted on 04/12/2013 10:42:48 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: rktman
Llama .38 super

Long live .38 Super/Comp. Yeah baby!

11 posted on 04/12/2013 10:44:17 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Red Badger

Gee, this is such a surprise! /s


12 posted on 04/12/2013 10:45:48 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: backpacker_c; centurion316

This post is more concise, it’s not really a dupe.


13 posted on 04/12/2013 10:51:32 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: backpacker_c
. . . little notice has been given to the fact that feinstein has reintroduced her assault weapon ban as amendments to the manchin/toomey bill.

Good for her. It ensures that the whole thing will go down in flames!

14 posted on 04/12/2013 10:52:16 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: paulcissa

It shakes, rattles, makes all kind of funny noises but man does it shoot. Only problem is that it is so old that it’s hard to find additional mags for it. Me likey!


15 posted on 04/12/2013 10:54:39 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: DustyMoment

Kill it with FIRE!!!!


16 posted on 04/12/2013 10:55:32 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: umgud

if we’d simply take care of armed violent criminals the way we did not too long ago, we’d never have repeat offenders. was extremely cost effective as well. rope. tree. a bullet. little electricity.


17 posted on 04/12/2013 10:56:36 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DBrow

I was not complaining, just providing a link to the actual language of the amendments. The language matters, and what the press is reporting is somewhat different that what the actual amendments say.


18 posted on 04/12/2013 10:57:37 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: fwdude

Feinswine’s AWB will be the killer amendment & the senile commie doesn’t even realize it.

At least I hope so.


19 posted on 04/12/2013 11:00:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: centurion316

I’ll need to re-post the text as more amendments come in. Unlless someone beats me to it!


20 posted on 04/12/2013 11:02:07 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: umgud

The management is criminal, that is right.


21 posted on 04/12/2013 11:07:03 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: backpacker_c

Good. That will absolutely prevent it from passing at all.


22 posted on 04/12/2013 11:12:09 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: backpacker_c

It is clear to me that the enemy within sees us as clawless, toothless lions.

We make noise, we even roar, but they see us as harmless and they know that we will eventually find our way under a tree and take a nap.

They may be right.


23 posted on 04/12/2013 11:12:29 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: rktman
Oh, excellent!

That'll never pass.

24 posted on 04/12/2013 11:13:27 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

Never underestimate the radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbag socialst pigs to sneak something in during the dead of night. Just like rust never sleeps, RLWEDSS never sleep either. Remember having to pass it so we can find out what’s in it? After the vote on filibuster, how many republicrats can you count on?


25 posted on 04/12/2013 11:20:06 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: DustyMoment

Actually, it has a better chance of passing now.

The blood dancer’s guild is going non stop right now, and the GOP in the Senate is going to fold.


26 posted on 04/12/2013 11:23:54 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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27 posted on 04/12/2013 11:27:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: backpacker_c

Feinswine never misses a beat, does she? The old hag should just retire.


28 posted on 04/12/2013 11:29:59 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Nowhere Man

where are the poison pill amendments?

where is the amendment to prohibit record keeping?

where is the amendment to mandate due process?

where is the amendment to prevent prohibiltion by shutting down the check system.


29 posted on 04/12/2013 11:32:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nowhere Man

I’m really surprised. She must really think that it should be passed.

Most folks understand that it was the matador’s cape to make us accept a “lesser” bill that still made a step towards their goal of confiscation.


30 posted on 04/12/2013 11:35:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: redgolum

Agreed. I think we have to wake up and admit we are dealing with the early stages of a real ugly dictatorship. I know most of us are still in one stage or another of denial, the normalcy bias thing, but I sure hope that somewhere along the way we start developing a proportionate response.


31 posted on 04/12/2013 11:37:45 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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The AWB is added. Many Democrats and Republicans can’t vote for that. The entire bill collapses and it’s the repubicans’ fault.


32 posted on 04/12/2013 11:40:01 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: longtermmemmory

Those were all procedurally blocked by Reid, his so-called amendment tree maneuver. They’re playing for the whole bag of marbles and most on our side are either asleep or collaborating.


33 posted on 04/12/2013 11:42:15 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: backpacker_c

This is exactly why gun owners are defending the Second Amendment from attacks by the DemocRATS. Nazis like Feinstein just don’t know when to quit. It is the total confiscation of all guns or nothing to piggies like Feinstein. The terms “common sense” and “gun control” being used in the same sentence is offensive to most Americans.


34 posted on 04/12/2013 11:43:23 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: backpacker_c

Tom Coburn is an idiot.


35 posted on 04/12/2013 11:45:14 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: backpacker_c

If you think this won’t pass, I think you’re fooling yourselves. We already know there are enough RINOs to get 60 votes. We also know that Boehner will bring it to the floor with enough RINOs in the House.


36 posted on 04/12/2013 12:01:16 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: backpacker_c
Have you looked at the Toomey-Manchin language? It's nearly identical to Chucky Schumer's original bill. This is a "compromise"?!
37 posted on 04/12/2013 12:06:44 PM PDT by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: umgud

Manchin/Toomey sounds unnecessary.

It simply targets the law abiding. Take a look at the stats for NICS prosecutions currently:

76,142 individuals failed a gun purchase background check in 2010.

19 percent of the denials (13,862) were based on the applicant being a fugitive from justice.

Another 2.5 percent (1,923) involved felons and unlawful firearms possession.

Only 13 of the 76,142 failed background checks resulted in guilty pleas.

Nothing could be easier to prosecute than a felon attempting to purchase a firearm. You’ve got at least one witness, plus it’s on film, the perp filled out the paperwork and signed it - it’s an orgy of evidence.

Worse, you don’t just have federal charges, but state charges. If the feds don’t prosecute, the state can.

That so few ever get prosecuted tells the entire story.

Criminals will get guns - they’re criminals.


38 posted on 04/12/2013 12:11:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: backpacker_c

China Calls for ‘No Delay’ on Gun Controls in U.S.
nytimes.com ^ | December 15, 2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2969184/posts

Sen. Feinstein to introduce gun-control bill next year
LA Times ^ | 12-16-12
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2969341/posts


39 posted on 04/12/2013 12:24:39 PM PDT by Selene
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To: MrB

Surprised???? This is how she got the AWB passed in 1994. The plan all along with Harry Reid was to recreate that situation giving the yeah votes cover for an unpopular AWB........Its all BS to me....

Now, if you vote against the bill you’ll be demonized as being against background checks to prevent criminals from owning “assault weapons.” None of the stuff they do in DC is what it appears to be.......Congress should have to live up to it’s own “Truth in Advertising” laws!

Funny how the Dems are now saying that the Affordable Health Care Act was never intended to reduce Healthcare costs......This after premiums are skyrocketing and people are losing the plans.....

Different subject, but they’re using the same type tactic to deny you your 2nd Amendment Rights and make it seem like “Common Sense” to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Six Pack.....like I said its all BS.

When the history of the American Holocaust is written Dianne Feinstein’s picture will be included as one of it’s main Architects......either that or the prime motivator for CWII........she always complains about Harvey Milks blood on her hands......wait till the blood of millions are on her hands.....


40 posted on 04/12/2013 12:41:50 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Mostly Collaborating. They see a lot of reward by being king, well until the whole thing crumbles which is what the left wants, and who do you think they will trod out against the wall for taking the blame?


41 posted on 04/12/2013 1:38:00 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Forty-Niner

That is if there will be anybody left who can read and write about it. The rate we are going will be like those ancient ruins that we see from humanities past where we know virtually nothing about them.


42 posted on 04/12/2013 1:45:19 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: MrB
Most folks understand that it was the matador’s cape to make us accept a “lesser” bill that still made a step towards their goal of confiscation.

It is explained quite well in Glenn Beck's book, "The Overton Window" where the goal posts are moved ever so slightly to get the people accustomed to it and then they do it over and over again.
43 posted on 04/12/2013 2:04:32 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Forty-Niner
When the history of the American Holocaust is written Dianne Feinstein’s picture will be included as one of it’s main Architects......either that or the prime motivator for CWII........she always complains about Harvey Milks blood on her hands......wait till the blood of millions are on her hands.....

I'd like to see the day when they use her picture and story along with Bronco Bama, as a villain to scare kids into doing the right thing, clean their plates and go to bed.
44 posted on 04/12/2013 2:07:14 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: redgolum

According to NewsMax.com:

“Obama-backed Gun Control Bill Unlikely to Pass
Friday, 12 Apr 2013 09:08 AM

President Barack Obama’s bid to enact even a scaled-back version of his gun-safety agenda needs support from many of the 16 Senate Republicans who showed they’re at least willing to debate it.

He also must hold onto almost all of the 52 Democrats and independents who joined yesterday’s 68-31 vote to advance the measure for debate.

The White House already may be losing Democratic Senator Max Baucus, who voted yes for debate though said in an interview later that he has trouble with the legislation.

“I oppose the bill, I just cannot support it,” said Baucus of Montana, who faces re-election in 2014. “I’m just not going to block debate on it.”

Several Republicans said they voted yes for the same reason — to allow the measure to advance — though they probably won’t back it in a final vote.

“It’s a debate we ought to have,” said Republican Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia. “I don’t think I am going to support the legislation.”

The Senate agreed yesterday to move to debate on the legislation, S. 649, which would expand background checks of gun purchasers, increase funding for school safety and set new penalties for gun trafficking.

The bill, should it clear the Senate, faces an uncertain fate in the House, where Speaker John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said he won’t make a “blanket” commitment to bring a gun measure to the floor.

Sandy Hook

The debate over gun control was reignited by the Dec. 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster AR-15 semiautomatic rifle to kill 20 children and six school employees. Just weeks later, Obama proposed a package of measures to curb gun violence that included renewing a ban on assault weapons and setting size limits for ammunition magazines.

Those proposals were dropped from the Senate bill amid opposition from the National Rifle Association. The president campaigned this week to preserve momentum for what’s left of the measure, bringing families of Newtown victims to Washington on Air Force One to ask senators to support it.

Baucus was one of the Democrats who met with Newtown victims’ relatives. He called it a “heart wrenching and emotional meeting” that, nevertheless, didn’t change his position on the legislation.

Begich, Pryor

Senator Mark Begich of Alaska, who said he met twice with the Newtown families, voted yesterday to block consideration of the measure.

“The base bill, I still had problems with it,” Begich said.

Democratic Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas also voted against moving forward with the bill.

Begich and Pryor — the only 2 Democrats to oppose bringing the measure up for debate — are up for re-election next year.

The 16 Republican votes to advance the bill signaled that at least some in the party will support the legislation. Still, one of those Republicans, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, said he won’t back the measure.

A number of Republicans think that voting to allow debate “gives them the freedom to vote against the bill,” said Stu Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report in Washington.

“I think it’s at the least embarrassing, and more than that, a bit of a problem, that Democrats can’t get every Democrat,” Rothenberg said. “It becomes easier for Republicans to just to say ‘look at Pryor or Begich.’”

Democrat Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, who is up for re- election next year in a state that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney won in November, wouldn’t say whether she supports the legislation.

Second Amendment

“I am going to be a strong supporter of the Second Amendment,” Landrieu said. The constitutional amendment protects Americans’ right to bear arms.

The political concerns of these Democrats are weighing on party members heading into next week’s vote.

“This is that big issue that the nation faces that you need to stand up and vote on,” said California Senator Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat who unsuccessfully sought to include an assault-weapon ban in the legislation. “It always surprises me when some people, the first thing they think of is getting re- elected.”

Democratic defections may extend beyond those facing re- election. Senator Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, a freshman lawmaker, said she hasn’t “formed any opinions” on the background-check compromise.

‘Way of Life’

North Dakota has a strong gun culture, Heitkamp said. “You need to understand in our part of the country, this isn’t an issue, this is a way of life, this is how people feel,” she said.

Yesterday’s bipartisan vote followed a compromise by Republican Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a Democrat, to require background checks for gun sales over the Internet and between private parties at gun shows.

Mandatory background checks for most gun purchasers are supported by 91 percent of U.S. voters, including 96 percent of Democrats, 88 percent of Republicans and 88 percent of gun- owning households, according to a Quinnipiac University poll conducted March 27-April 1.

The Manchin-Toomey proposal will be offered as the first amendment to the Senate bill. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said debate and votes may stretch into the week of April 22.

The push for legislation by the Newtown families and other groups supporting it has been an offsetting force to the influence of the NRA, the nation’s biggest gun lobby.

A-Minus Rating

Nine of the Republicans voting to move to debate on the bill received at least an A-minus rating from Gun Owners of America, a gun-rights group based in Springfield, Virginia.

“The political landscape in America on gun safety is changing before our eyes,” said Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat. “Four months ago gun safety and gun violence were thought to be politically untouchable in America.”

Republicans including John McCain of Arizona will be crucial to the success of the legislation. In an interview yesterday, he stopped short of endorsing the legislation.

“I’m certainly favorably disposed but I’ve got to look at all the details,” he said. “The Internet aspect of the issue is something I have concerns about.”

Another Republican being pressed on the issue is Susan Collins of Maine, who is sponsoring a separate bill to set penalties for firearms trafficking. She said the compromise between Manchin and Toomey addressed many of her concerns about the legislation.

“It takes care of many of the problems that are in the underlying bill,” she said. “It’s certainly a positive development.”

Democratic Senator Charles Schumer of New York predicted a challenge to gain votes in the coming days.

“Make no mistake about it; we have a tough fight” to pass the gun measure, Schumer said. “The NRA will try and throw all kinds of amendments at us.”


45 posted on 04/12/2013 2:17:02 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: backpacker_c

Nothing they decide or do makes any difference here at my house. Here we follow the Bill of Rights and let the silly politicians pretend they are making a difference. Someday they will shoot me dead, and God will sort it all out, but someday I will die anyway. I’d rather do it standing for what’s right than waste away to cancer or alzheimers. The Second Amendment lives in the hearts of patriots.


46 posted on 04/12/2013 2:19:38 PM PDT by ez (Laws are for little people. Criminals, politicians, police, and David Gregory are exempt.)
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To: DarkWaters

In any scenario I think that the forces of evil will be defeated...(Dems lose)

Surely among the Conservative winners someone will be able to read/write! lolol


47 posted on 04/12/2013 2:20:39 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Nowhere Man

It’s coming....hope I live long enough to see it too....


48 posted on 04/12/2013 2:21:50 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: ez
"I’d rather do it standing for what’s right than waste away to cancer or alzheimers. The Second Amendment lives in the hearts of patriots."

Well put ez..!!! Thank you..!!

49 posted on 04/12/2013 2:34:48 PM PDT by unread
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To: 1010RD

You nailed it! Bravo.


50 posted on 04/12/2013 2:54:36 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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