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Obama Claims AR-15 is a "Fully Automatic" Rifle
NRA-ILA ^ | April 5, 2013 | NA

Posted on 04/12/2013 10:38:25 PM PDT by neverdem

It has been widely reported that the killer in the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut last year was a semi-automatic AR-15 stolen from its rightful owner. In fact, it was for precisely that reason that President Obama said that gun control will be a "central issue" of his last four years in office.

But on Thursday, reports began circulating that at a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee fundraiser in San Francisco on Wednesday, Obama claimed that the AR-15 used in the Connecticut crime was a fully-automatic firearm. At first, we wondered if the reports were accurate, or whether the president might have had a slip of the tongue.

The president was quoted as saying: "Now, over the next couple of months, we've got a couple of issues: gun control. I just came from Denver, where the issue of gun violence is something that has haunted families for way too long, and it is possible for us to create common-sense gun safety measures that respect the traditions of gun ownership in this country and hunters and sportsmen, but also make sure that we don't have another 20 children in a classroom gunned down by a semiautomatic weapon – by a fully automatic weapon in that case, sadly."

However, that is precisely what Obama said, as verified by the transcript of his speech, posted on the White House's website.

On top of Rep. Diana DeGette's (D-Colo.) claim the day before (see related article above), that once rounds are fired from a magazine, the magazine becomes inoperable, and similarly foolish statements by other anti-gun legislation sponsors, we are left wondering whether anyone at the core of the anti-gun campaign in Washington, D.C., knows which end of a gun is up.


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1 posted on 04/12/2013 10:38:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Idiot. And the less informed will buy into his idiocy.


2 posted on 04/12/2013 10:41:32 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: neverdem

He’s the most intelligent person in the world. Remember? What a buffoon. Also a pathological liar and deceiver.


3 posted on 04/12/2013 10:43:04 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: neverdem

It doesn’t matter because the “Big Lie” is already in place. Add to that a sycophantic media and 3/4 of the population who don’t know any better.


4 posted on 04/12/2013 10:45:43 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: neverdem

hussein is obviously ignorant regarding anything to do with firearms. Don’t make the mistake of thinking this is the only issue he is grossly ill-informed about. Even scarier, he won’t admit, even to himself, that he is wildly unqualified for his position due to his rampant ignorance.


5 posted on 04/12/2013 10:46:14 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: rktman

> ...Also a pathological liar and deceiver.

He’s a Muslim and the Islamic principle of taqiyya instructs him to lie.


6 posted on 04/12/2013 10:47:10 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Aw shucks, little barry bastard boy lis a liar, first and always. He wouldn’t need to understand ARs to lie about them for his leftist globalist oligarchical agenda.


7 posted on 04/12/2013 10:47:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: neverdem

He also claims to be a Constitutional law professor, an American who loves his country, a heterosexual and the list of lies goes on. So why would we ever expect anything but lies from him?


8 posted on 04/12/2013 10:49:59 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: neverdem

even worse than that is no republican is tellign hte press that he wants to ban things he doesn’t even know about- the republicans could be playing htis up BIG TIME portraying him as ban happy, and exploitive of tradgedy- but nope- per usual- there’s a deafening silence from the right-


9 posted on 04/12/2013 10:51:34 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: ThunderSleeps

What say you? I have a photo put out by Obama enablers that shows him shooting skeet or was it trap. Whatever he was shooting there seemed to be something askew about the shouldering but if the photo is real why can’t 50+or- of the population believe his gun experience is extensive?


10 posted on 04/12/2013 11:00:32 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: neverdem

Barack the Kenyan wouldn’t know a “fully automatic” rifle if one jumped up and bit him on the @$$.


11 posted on 04/12/2013 11:01:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Barack the Kenyan wouldn’t know a “fully automatic” rifle if one jumped up and bit him on the @$$.”
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He would not know ANY rifle from a BB gun.


12 posted on 04/12/2013 11:04:39 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: neverdem

0bama lies. It’s how he rolls.


13 posted on 04/12/2013 11:09:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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14 posted on 04/12/2013 11:14:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

0bama relies on the ignorance of the sheep.


15 posted on 04/12/2013 11:15:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: neverdem

done on purpose to get the low info voters and low info media to repeat the lie and defend it with their mindless repeat bleating.


16 posted on 04/12/2013 11:21:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The truth no longer matters, my friend.


17 posted on 04/12/2013 11:23:15 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

it matters to us.


18 posted on 04/12/2013 11:30:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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19 posted on 04/12/2013 11:39:59 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: neverdem

I still say it could’ve been a Freudian slip. There’s kits for modifying a legal Bushmaster to an illegal full auto. Did anybody see the weapon yet? I haven’t. What if the whole campaign to ban the scary semi-auto is based on a lie? Well, I mean besides all the other lies, of course. Just sayin ...


20 posted on 04/12/2013 11:51:18 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: neverdem
As usual, he doesn't know what the 'eff he's talking about.
This dumb ass Kenyan couldn't even run a 7-11 store.

Thanks a lot liberals for electing such a moron.

21 posted on 04/13/2013 12:09:38 AM PDT by Bullish (The little pantload can't even sink a basket for cryin' out loud!)
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To: neverdem

I hate to tell the Preident this, but a Lousiville Slugger would have done the same thing in this instance.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 12:54:23 AM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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23 posted on 04/13/2013 12:56:09 AM PDT by devolve ( -- -- liberals secret fuel economy trick -- simply fill up your tires with propane --)
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To: neverdem
Diana DeGette is obviously Obama’s top adviser on gun issues.
24 posted on 04/13/2013 1:23:23 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: neverdem

Obama is a Fully Automatic Liar.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 2:51:03 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: noinfringers2

“What say you? I have a photo put out by Obama enablers that shows him shooting skeet or was it trap.”

Probably shooting at air, but who knows? Perhaps the pic was photo shopped. I’m wondering what that horizontal out-gassing is at the end of the barrel, weird....


26 posted on 04/13/2013 2:59:11 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

“Obama Claims AR-15 is a “Fully Automatic” Rifle “.

A claim from a Tin hat, dumb ass that knows nothing about guns.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 3:13:27 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for HONEST government)
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To: ThunderSleeps

At least he’s learned not to pronounce corpsman as corpseman. He’s never said it again.


28 posted on 04/13/2013 3:19:33 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: doc1019

Uninformed president loves uninformed voters .

Garbage in Garbage out .


29 posted on 04/13/2013 4:35:34 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: neverdem
That is part of the harvest that voters receive for electing a candidate that does not have to take a test to demonstrate a modicum of intelligence for the public office being sought!

This is true for every elected Executive office at every government level.
30 posted on 04/13/2013 4:50:32 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: laplata

So does Jesus hence Øbama’s messiah complex


31 posted on 04/13/2013 5:35:48 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Springfield Reformer

There’s kits for modifying a legal Bushmaster to an illegal full auto.


It’s been decades since those were available. It requires the same facilities required to manufacture a new full-auto (advanced machining of the main components), plus full auto parts that are not readily available).

Correct me if I’m wrong.


32 posted on 04/13/2013 6:02:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: neverdem

Well, with the right kind of modification, it can fire in that manner...

But...The facts of the case are that this was not done to the firearm in question...

Therefore, the President of the United States is a dumbass...

But I am only stating my opinion...


33 posted on 04/13/2013 6:31:12 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: noinfringers2
...why can’t 50+or- of the population believe his gun experience is extensive?

Since you tee'd it up for me... ;-)

I don't care how extensive or fabricated his firearms experience is. Either way, he and his big-government fascists have no right, no legal means, to infringe upon our rights. These rights were singled out and guaranteed (note, not granted) in the Bill of Rights specifically to protect US, from THEM - from people just like hussein, DiFi, Reid, and other power hungry fascists.

34 posted on 04/13/2013 6:34:06 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: neverdem
Different decade (heck, century!) same s**t.

  "The semi-automatic weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's
   confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic
   assault weapons anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to
   be a machine gun can only increase that chance of public support for
   restrictions on these weapons."
                       --  Josh Sugarman, 1988, Violence Policy Center.

35 posted on 04/13/2013 6:49:34 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: neverdem

His lips were moving again.


36 posted on 04/13/2013 6:58:21 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Jyotishi

Roger that. So even knowing that he’s lying, it’s okay. Just following orders. Remember, “we must not judge all muslims by the actions of a few radicals. On the other hand we MUST judge all law abiding (victims) American gun owners by the actions of a few deranged individuals.” Makes perfect sense. To radical left wing extremist demokkkrat socialist scumbags.


37 posted on 04/13/2013 7:04:32 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: neverdem

I have a question that’s not been asked of the Feistein/Obama/Bloomberg troika and their cronies. Magazine size aside, why is a .223 AR15 banned and a .223 Ruger Mini 14 allowed? With a ten round mag they are,appearances aside, the same weapon with the same capabilities. Yet Feinstein’s original bill banned thr AR 15 and specifically named the Ruger Mini 14 as a legal weapon.


38 posted on 04/13/2013 7:26:49 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: neverdem
Good morning.

I find this whole gun control stuff very frustrating. If you eliminated all 20,000 gun laws, or you added 20,000 more gun laws, crime (and suicide) per capita would not change.

Imho of course.

5.56mm

39 posted on 04/13/2013 7:36:34 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: neverdem

40 posted on 04/13/2013 7:45:42 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Mushroom Gravy

I’m no expert, so you certainly could be right. The only reason I even thought of it is I ran accross an old discussion of it, I think from around 2005. Natually, I didn’t keep the link because I assumed (possibly incorrectly) that this was common knowledge in gun-lore. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. More to think about.


41 posted on 04/13/2013 9:36:35 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: neverdem

Moron. Not you, neverdem, honey!


42 posted on 04/13/2013 9:51:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: neverdem

I agree that gun violence has haunted families for way too long. Especially those who had family members killed by gang violence in places like Chicago. They’re so haunted they’re afraid to go outside.

I think obama and his stupid followers in congress should ban fully automatic rifles like the AR15-FA (the FA stands for fully automatic) and DISPOSABLE gun clips that hold more than 9 rounds.


43 posted on 04/13/2013 10:10:06 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Springfield Reformer
Springfield Reformer said: "There’s kits for modifying a legal Bushmaster to an illegal full auto. "

Here's a way to look at this issue.

How hard is it to convert a fully-automatic M-16 into a semi-automatic rifle which would operate similarly to today's generic AR-15 semi-automatic rifles?

The answer is: put the select fire switch into the semi-automatic fire position. No modification of the rifle is necessary.

I say this to point out that the difference between an M-16 and what we call an AR-15 is accomplished by trivial modifications to very tiny parts in the trigger mechanism of the rifle. The part which legally makes an M-16 a "machine gun" is the sear, and possession of this sear is a serious federal crime without the tax stamp which is required to possess such a machine gun.

It's my understanding, (which may be wrong), that the government insisted many years ago that any semi-automatic AR-15 type rifle manufactured must be made such that a machining operation on the receiver must be done in order to allow that receiver to use the key M-16 parts which make an M-16 operate in full-automatic mode.

Before my unfortunate incident on the Costa Concordia, I owned a rifle which was constructed almost completely of M-16 parts which were abundant after the VietNam war. The exception was the lower receiver which was not compatible with an M-16 and the trigger parts needed to make this modified receiver function.

It's my understanding that modifying that rifle to operate fully-automatic using M-16 parts would be a substantial task far beyond simply replacing a key trigger part or two. I have read comments which suggest that even the bolt carrier in a generic AR-15 is different from that of the M-16. For the record, I have never attempted to study, modify, obtain, or otherwise modify my rifle so as to violate the unconstitutional Firearms Act of 1934 or any of the later infringements of my right to keep and bear arms.

It's perhaps worth noting that it would be relatively easy for someone to design what you described so that a generic AR-15 could operate fully-automatic. It's not rocket science and a machinist with some engineering skill could do so. The resulting "kit" would then probably not be compatible with an M-16.

44 posted on 04/13/2013 10:25:13 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: neverdem

The idiot opened his mouth and thus he made an idiot of himself yet again.


45 posted on 04/13/2013 10:27:14 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: William Tell

Wow. Thanks for the very beneficial input. More to ponder.

So even just studying the modification can get one in trouble? Intriguing.


46 posted on 04/13/2013 11:40:48 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: neverdem

He shout stick to skeet


47 posted on 04/13/2013 1:13:17 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Springfield Reformer said: "So even just studying the modification can get one in trouble?"

We live in interesting times. The slaughter of innocents at Ruby Ridge resulted after government agents successfully encouraged a man to shorten the barrels of two shotguns without purchasing the required government tax stamp. This was sufficient to begin a persecution which resulted in three deaths.

If you own guns and ever have them confiscated and also have instructions on how to convert them to full auto, do not be surprised if you are charged and CONVICTED for conspiracy to violate the National Firearms Act of 1934. You would have to be thankful if the government agents didn't kill your kids and pets.

48 posted on 04/13/2013 3:15:58 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: neverdem

LOLOL! Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 04/13/2013 8:49:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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