Skip to comments.Rand Paul forces suffer setback vs. GOP establishment
Posted on 04/13/2013 6:05:27 AM PDT by Bratch
HOLLYWOOD, Calif. In the GOPs ongoing establishment vs. grassroots saga, chalk one up for the establishment.
Since Mitt Romneys loss, the Rand Paul wing of the party has been on the ascendency. But libertarians hit a roadblock Friday as the Republican National Committee opted at its spring meeting to keep in place a host of rules rammed through by the Romney campaign at last years national convention.
The move represents at least a small setback to Rand Pauls 2016 hopes, potentially making it more difficult for him or another candidate with strong grassroots support to pick up delegates. Had the rules been in effect last year they were adopted after Mitt Romney secured the nomination the former Massachusetts governor would likely have wrapped up the nomination much earlier and avoided the drawn-out warfare that weakened him heading into the general election against Barack Obama.
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I held my nose for mittens. Never again.
They’re only using the tired old Alinsky tactic of trying to attach everything they oppose to Rand Paul because they know he can be a divisive figure among conservatives. They did the same during the GOP convention but used Ron Paul as the target.
I personally agree with Rand Paul on some things and disagree with him on others.
We’ve got to put conservatives on the RNC. We managed to sneak one on the committee in Michigan and they’re desperately trying to destroy him. (A few FR “concern” trolls are on board with the attack too)
Earth to RNC. So we’ll just stay home instead.
...saw an article the other day where an old Marine coined what has to be the bottom line of all bottom lines.....something like... we will never again out vote the imported commie votes....etc.
Don’t get your panties in a wad. Politics is like a river. It never stops flowing.
I remember how upset we all were here on FR when the new “RULES” were shoved down our throats.
I have come to the conclusion that the GOPe would rather LOSE every election from now on, and be extinguished, rather than EVER becoming more conservative, and extracting America from the pit.
It is heartbreaking.
Never again for me either. A third party is on the way and the RNC will either have to deal with it and cross endorsement or go down in flames.
We only lost on rule 16 by something like 3 votes. That means all we need to do is get 3 more conservatives on the committee to win it next time around.
“I held my nose for mittens. Never again. “
In 08 I held my nose for McCain. Said, doesn’t matter what he is as long as he isn’t a “D”. I defended that on these boards for 4 years.
Then came Mitt. I said, well he isn’t a “D” and we have to take Obama down so it became “Anyone but Obama.”
In 2016 I am voting for the candidate I think can save the country. I don’t care what they have next to their names. But I can guarantee 2 things. The first is it will not be a Democrat and the second is it will not be an establishment Republican.
Astute observation: More of US should look to control the anxiety we encounter:
Anxiety Management: learning how to move anxiety to the time we can do something about it, removing the current stress which is higher until we can form a way to eliminate or minimize the problem.....(this time the corrupt administration of Obama)
I personally can’t understand why conservatives don’t just change the RNC. Its the lowest possible bar to overcome. In Michigan it only took some 300 votes at the state convention to remove the old guard and put a conservative on the RNC.
I get a lot of solicitations from the "GOP establishment", but I want to put them on notice that they won't get one red cent from me. Apparently, under folks like Juan McLame, Light in the loafers Lindsey, Isaksonofabitch and others, they feel the best course is to assist emperor 0bama and become the "democRAT light" party.
The rule changes were the last straw for me. I have denounced being a republican and state the reasons why when they come a calling for $$$.
If the GOP had worked with the libertarians Obama would have been defeated. Screw you GOP!
I personally like the idea of 5 ten state primary dates on a rotation.
2 east coast states, 2 west coast states, 2 southern states, 2 northern states, and 2 central states would all vote the same day on a random rotation pulled out of a hat for each presidential primary.
Yes, the GOP has managed to alienate libertarians AND social conservatives at the same time. That takes talent.
Thanks for posting that. I had missed that article on the eleventh.
When I heard that Romney and Company changed the rules, I knew that it was the E-GOP at work. They screwed the Tea Parties and the libertarians enough to keep a bunch of them home on election day.
Or is it just simply too late:
My first vote for president was for Barry Goldwater. I then voted for Nixon over Kennedy and Nixon again over Humphrey. I say this to establish that this “ain’t my first rodeo.”
My first Republican National convention was in Miami Beach, 1972, when Nixon was nominated for reelection. Several more followed, including the one in Detroit where that river I referred to in a previous post coughed up on shore the finest president of our lifetimes, Ronald Reagan.
So, I think I am qualified by both age and experience to urge patience and understanding. Politics is not like farming or any other enterprise.
Don’t count on any kind of serious conservative turnout next election. It ain’t gonna happen with these Republican ‘leaders.’
Unlike McCain 2008 and Romney 2012, if it’s Jeb Bush in 2016 - I am staying home and not contribute to RINO FAIL Part III. Don’t bother telling me the same old horse shit about the lesser of two evils. We are already past the American experiment, the future does not look pretty.
If your political universe is no larger than FreeRepublic you are deluding yourself.
The republicans just lost an election that they couldn’t lose against Jimmy Carter the second, by running a guy who doesn’t even belong in republican politics at all.
Your smug comfort level with the disastrous path of the GOP is the path to total irrelevancy for the party.
The fact is, we did lose one to Jimmie Carter, and we got over that too. Cradle yourself in the prevailing blind anger at your own party and watch the left that you so despise continue to take away what is left of the country.
Huh? You don’t know the difference between the Watergate contaminated unelected veep of Nixon losing to what appeared to be a social conservative Southern Governor, and losing to a second term Jimmy Carter?
No wonder you think that you voted for Nixon against Kennedy after voting for Goldwater for president.
You really are so devoted to your party that you have no concept of how it’s accelerated war against conservatives is destroying it, Romney’s shocking loss in an election that the GOP couldn’t lose, and his disastrous effect down ticket, should be opening your eyes, not have you wallowing in complacency and even more hostility towards conservatives and conservatism and calling an attempt to save conservatism, “blind anger”, break out of your complacency and blindness and strive for improvement and repair.
Thanks for your reminder that I first voted for Nixon against Kennedy in 1960, then Goldwater against Johnson in 64. Google is a wonderful thing. And yes, I do remember President Ford but not as you do. I actually knew the man. I was also at the Republican convention in Kansas City where he was nominated. So, big shot, go on with your bitterness and leave the real lifting to your betters.
The only thing you seem to be able to ‘lift’ is the lid on the septic tank.
Google? You need to google to see who you were voting for in presidential elections and to learn who was running? No wonder you seem so nasty and angry and bitter, your mind is slipping.
It is also no wonder that you seem so fond of the pro-abortion Ford, I’m not surprised that you were supporting him in Kansas City as Reagan came so close to defeating him, today you are still ranting against the Reagan wing.
I guess the GOP really doesn’t want to win the WH!
Nice try. My political universe ranges from having once been an elected Democrat official to becoming a Republican and now a Conservative. I get my information from the most intellectually honest sources I can find and brook no opposition when it comes to appeasers.
What are you doing here? Trolling?