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Rand Paul forces suffer setback vs. GOP establishment
Politico ^ | 4/12/13 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 04/13/2013 6:05:27 AM PDT by Bratch

HOLLYWOOD, Calif. — In the GOP’s ongoing establishment vs. grassroots saga, chalk one up for the establishment.

Since Mitt Romney’s loss, the Rand Paul wing of the party has been on the ascendency. But libertarians hit a roadblock Friday as the Republican National Committee opted at its spring meeting to keep in place a host of rules rammed through by the Romney campaign at last year’s national convention.

The move represents at least a small setback to Rand Paul’s 2016 hopes, potentially making it more difficult for him or another candidate with strong grassroots support to pick up delegates. Had the rules been in effect last year — they were adopted after Mitt Romney secured the nomination — the former Massachusetts governor would likely have wrapped up the nomination much earlier and avoided the drawn-out warfare that weakened him heading into the general election against Barack Obama.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gope; rinos; teaparty
Somehow I don't believe Rand Paul is the ONLY grassroots candidate they're worried about.
1 posted on 04/13/2013 6:05:27 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch
Plus, this is more about the coronation of Jeb . If they try to finagle a way to prevent true Conservative like Cruz or Palin from running, or even a 88% like Rand or Walker, in order to ensure that we only get to vote for the GOPe candidate they pre-select, then I am done with the GOP forever.

I held my nose for mittens. Never again.

2 posted on 04/13/2013 6:09:54 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Bratch

Correct.

They’re only using the tired old Alinsky tactic of trying to attach everything they oppose to Rand Paul because they know he can be a divisive figure among conservatives. They did the same during the GOP convention but used Ron Paul as the target.

I personally agree with Rand Paul on some things and disagree with him on others.


3 posted on 04/13/2013 6:10:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Bratch
Yep, they're scared of any potential insurgent TEA Party challenger, whether it's Rand Paul or Sarah Palin. It's why Team Romney, Boehner, Priebus, Barbour, and Rove engaged in those well documented shenanigans last August in Tampa Bay:

Floor fight: Grass-roots activists battle attempt to rig GOP convention delegate rules Updated

4 posted on 04/13/2013 6:12:25 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Sirius Lee

We’ve got to put conservatives on the RNC. We managed to sneak one on the committee in Michigan and they’re desperately trying to destroy him. (A few FR “concern” trolls are on board with the attack too)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006955/posts


5 posted on 04/13/2013 6:13:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Bratch

Earth to RNC. So we’ll just stay home instead.


6 posted on 04/13/2013 6:17:40 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Bratch

...saw an article the other day where an old Marine coined what has to be the bottom line of all bottom lines.....something like... we will never again out vote the imported commie votes....etc.

Semper Trvth!
*****


7 posted on 04/13/2013 6:20:01 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: AdaGray

Don’t get your panties in a wad. Politics is like a river. It never stops flowing.


8 posted on 04/13/2013 6:20:35 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Bratch

I remember how upset we all were here on FR when the new “RULES” were shoved down our throats.

I have come to the conclusion that the GOPe would rather LOSE every election from now on, and be extinguished, rather than EVER becoming more conservative, and extracting America from the pit.

It is heartbreaking.


9 posted on 04/13/2013 6:21:14 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Never again for me either. A third party is on the way and the RNC will either have to deal with it and cross endorsement or go down in flames.


10 posted on 04/13/2013 6:22:17 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: billhilly

We only lost on rule 16 by something like 3 votes. That means all we need to do is get 3 more conservatives on the committee to win it next time around.


11 posted on 04/13/2013 6:22:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sirius Lee

“I held my nose for mittens. Never again. “

In 08 I held my nose for McCain. Said, doesn’t matter what he is as long as he isn’t a “D”. I defended that on these boards for 4 years.

Then came Mitt. I said, well he isn’t a “D” and we have to take Obama down so it became “Anyone but Obama.”

In 2016 I am voting for the candidate I think can save the country. I don’t care what they have next to their names. But I can guarantee 2 things. The first is it will not be a Democrat and the second is it will not be an establishment Republican.


12 posted on 04/13/2013 6:24:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: billhilly

Astute observation: More of US should look to control the anxiety we encounter:

Anxiety Management: learning how to move anxiety to the time we can do something about it, removing the current stress which is higher until we can form a way to eliminate or minimize the problem.....(this time the corrupt administration of Obama)


13 posted on 04/13/2013 6:28:49 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: The Wizard

I personally can’t understand why conservatives don’t just change the RNC. Its the lowest possible bar to overcome. In Michigan it only took some 300 votes at the state convention to remove the old guard and put a conservative on the RNC.


14 posted on 04/13/2013 6:35:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Bratch
would likely have wrapped up the nomination much earlier

The GOP primary process is already irrelevant in several late-primary states.

Romney (and McCain in 2008) had the nomination wrapped up weeks before my state primary.

Ending the primary season earlier might be okay, if more 'super Tuesdays' are set up so all states can vote before the process is locked up.
15 posted on 04/13/2013 6:36:24 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bratch
Rand Paul forces suffer setback vs. GOP establishment

I get a lot of solicitations from the "GOP establishment", but I want to put them on notice that they won't get one red cent from me. Apparently, under folks like Juan McLame, Light in the loafers Lindsey, Isaksonofabitch and others, they feel the best course is to assist emperor 0bama and become the "democRAT light" party.

16 posted on 04/13/2013 6:39:43 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Bratch

The rule changes were the last straw for me. I have denounced being a republican and state the reasons why when they come a calling for $$$.

If the GOP had worked with the libertarians Obama would have been defeated. Screw you GOP!


17 posted on 04/13/2013 6:39:46 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: TomGuy

I personally like the idea of 5 ten state primary dates on a rotation.

2 east coast states, 2 west coast states, 2 southern states, 2 northern states, and 2 central states would all vote the same day on a random rotation pulled out of a hat for each presidential primary.


18 posted on 04/13/2013 6:41:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Java4Jay

Yes, the GOP has managed to alienate libertarians AND social conservatives at the same time. That takes talent.


19 posted on 04/13/2013 6:48:53 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for posting that. I had missed that article on the eleventh.


20 posted on 04/13/2013 7:15:28 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Java4Jay
The rule changes were the last straw for me... If the GOP had worked with the libertarians Obama would have been defeated. Screw you GOP!

When I heard that Romney and Company changed the rules, I knew that it was the E-GOP at work. They screwed the Tea Parties and the libertarians enough to keep a bunch of them home on election day.

21 posted on 04/13/2013 7:33:13 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: Bratch
FURNC and the GOPe elephant you rode in on. Can "they" be fixed in time to fix the nation or can you fix the nation by first fixing the GOP and creating a two party system?

Or is it just simply too late:

Consent decree from 1982 prohibits the RNC from combatting vote fraud

Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud

RNC/DNC sign consent decree to not investigate widespread voter fraud

22 posted on 04/13/2013 7:35:43 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
It is sad to watch the Republican Party commit political suicide. Conservatives are beginning to realize that no conservative will ever be a Republican leader or nominee.
Mad John McCain was so crazy that he chose Governor Palin as his running mate before the rest of the mainstream Republican operatives could stop him. He recovered quickly and had his staff undermine her for the rest of his bungled campaign and thereafter.
Senator Paul will not be a Republican nominee or Senate leader.
Senator Cruz will not be a Republican nominee or Senate
leader.
Never.
By fixing the rules, the Republicans guarantee another Democrat victory, whoever is the next Democrat nominee.
TWB
23 posted on 04/13/2013 8:14:23 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: The Wizard

My first vote for president was for Barry Goldwater. I then voted for Nixon over Kennedy and Nixon again over Humphrey. I say this to establish that this “ain’t my first rodeo.”

My first Republican National convention was in Miami Beach, 1972, when Nixon was nominated for reelection. Several more followed, including the one in Detroit where that river I referred to in a previous post coughed up on shore the finest president of our lifetimes, Ronald Reagan.

So, I think I am qualified by both age and experience to urge patience and understanding. Politics is not like farming or any other enterprise.


24 posted on 04/13/2013 8:28:50 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly

Don’t count on any kind of serious conservative turnout next election. It ain’t gonna happen with these Republican ‘leaders.’


25 posted on 04/13/2013 8:36:13 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Bratch

Unlike McCain 2008 and Romney 2012, if it’s Jeb Bush in 2016 - I am staying home and not contribute to RINO FAIL Part III. Don’t bother telling me the same old horse shit about the lesser of two evils. We are already past the American experiment, the future does not look pretty.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 8:37:59 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: AdaGray

If your political universe is no larger than FreeRepublic you are deluding yourself.


27 posted on 04/13/2013 9:29:29 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly

The republicans just lost an election that they couldn’t lose against Jimmy Carter the second, by running a guy who doesn’t even belong in republican politics at all.

Your smug comfort level with the disastrous path of the GOP is the path to total irrelevancy for the party.


28 posted on 04/13/2013 11:21:46 AM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12

The fact is, we did lose one to Jimmie Carter, and we got over that too. Cradle yourself in the prevailing blind anger at your own party and watch the left that you so despise continue to take away what is left of the country.


29 posted on 04/13/2013 1:31:16 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly

Huh? You don’t know the difference between the Watergate contaminated unelected veep of Nixon losing to what appeared to be a social conservative Southern Governor, and losing to a second term Jimmy Carter?

No wonder you think that you voted for Nixon against Kennedy after voting for Goldwater for president.

You really are so devoted to your party that you have no concept of how it’s accelerated war against conservatives is destroying it, Romney’s shocking loss in an election that the GOP couldn’t lose, and his disastrous effect down ticket, should be opening your eyes, not have you wallowing in complacency and even more hostility towards conservatives and conservatism and calling an attempt to save conservatism, “blind anger”, break out of your complacency and blindness and strive for improvement and repair.


30 posted on 04/13/2013 2:17:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12

Thanks for your reminder that I first voted for Nixon against Kennedy in 1960, then Goldwater against Johnson in 64. Google is a wonderful thing. And yes, I do remember President Ford but not as you do. I actually knew the man. I was also at the Republican convention in Kansas City where he was nominated. So, big shot, go on with your bitterness and leave the real lifting to your betters.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 4:03:42 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly

The only thing you seem to be able to ‘lift’ is the lid on the septic tank.


32 posted on 04/13/2013 4:17:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: billhilly

Google? You need to google to see who you were voting for in presidential elections and to learn who was running? No wonder you seem so nasty and angry and bitter, your mind is slipping.

It is also no wonder that you seem so fond of the pro-abortion Ford, I’m not surprised that you were supporting him in Kansas City as Reagan came so close to defeating him, today you are still ranting against the Reagan wing.


33 posted on 04/13/2013 4:22:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Bratch

I guess the GOP really doesn’t want to win the WH!


34 posted on 04/13/2013 5:09:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: billhilly

Nice try. My political universe ranges from having once been an elected Democrat official to becoming a Republican and now a Conservative. I get my information from the most intellectually honest sources I can find and brook no opposition when it comes to appeasers.


35 posted on 04/16/2013 4:37:57 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: billhilly

What are you doing here? Trolling?


36 posted on 04/16/2013 4:42:41 PM PDT by AdaGray
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