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Veteran Says He Was Forced From Business Because of Arabic Tattoo
http://www.newschief.com/article/20130411/NEWSCHIEF/130419930/0/newschief00 ^ | Thursday, April 11, 2013 | By Matthew Pleasant

Posted on 04/13/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by Fast5

LAKE WALES | The Arabic word, translated simply, means "unbeliever."

Ever since Eddie Bryant had it inked across his right calf, the former National Guard member has gotten positive reactions, he said, until last week.

Bryant walked into Florida Skydiving Center on April 3 in shorts, his tattoo of the word "kafir" exposed. A group from Qatar, a Middle Eastern country with an overwhelmingly Muslim population, also was visiting.

A staffer tapped Bryant, 27, on the shoulder as he stood under a hangar at the Lake Wales business.

Would he mind seeing the manager, Betty Hill?

Hill, 59, and Bryant disagree over certain details of what happened next. But the version Bryant posted on his website has spread from blog to blog in the past week, leading to a flood of angry emails and calls to the Florida Skydiving Center in Lake Wales that Hill — still getting criticism a week later — never expected.

Hill and Bryant agree that in a brief conversation in her office, she asked him to cover the tattoo.

A member of the Qatari group, made up mostly of military police from the country and some civilians, she said, had quietly approached a staffer because they found the tattoo offensive.

When Bryant explained he didn't have pants to wear, both of them say, Hill suggested he cover it with a piece of duct tape.

"It seemed like a joke that anyone would suggest that," said Bryant, who has returned to his home in the Cleveland area. "But I knew she was serious."

Here's where they disagree: Bryant said when they came to the impasse, he was forced to leave.

(Excerpt) Read more at newschief.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; antichristian; bettyhill; civilrights; dhimmitude; floridaskydiving; islamicsupremacists; islaminamerica; kafir; kufr; lifeamongthekufir; mosqueandstate; payyourjizatax; qatar; subhumaninsult

1 posted on 04/13/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by Fast5
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To: Fast5

posting this as it has just been published in another local newspaper. hope Drudge would pick this up.
and this ‘group of f’n Musies is staying at the local Holiday Inn Express in Lake Wales, so i’ve been told.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3004729/posts


2 posted on 04/13/2013 11:21:40 AM PDT by Fast5 (That Just Ain't Rite.)
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To: Fast5
Gee, I wonder where Obama would stand on this issue?

Would he support a veteran's right to free speech...or stand with the muslims?

3 posted on 04/13/2013 11:22:07 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: Fast5
The tattoo would be similar to someone with the message "Not A Patriot" on their skin in the United States, said Kevin Reinhart, a professor at Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H., who specializes in Islamic religious studies.

No Kevin you boob, its like wearing a 'not a Patriot' tatoo in Qatar.

In the US we're supposed to have freedom of speech, idiot.

4 posted on 04/13/2013 11:23:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: RoosterRedux

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” — Barack Hussein Obama


5 posted on 04/13/2013 11:25:19 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Fast5

The company has gone into our tables, in some detail.


6 posted on 04/13/2013 11:26:52 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Fast5


7 posted on 04/13/2013 11:27:16 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Fast5

Were they offended to be in the presence of someone who defiantly knows what KUFIR means? Or did they just want non-muslims out of their presence?

THEY use the word. How the hell are THEY offended?


8 posted on 04/13/2013 11:27:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: RoosterRedux

“I will stand with the “them” aka the Muslims..............


9 posted on 04/13/2013 11:28:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Fast5
For them, the word is pejorative, defining someone who rejects Islam.

Well, we have that Right, here.

I reckon a nice cross would accomplish the same thing.

Too many dhimmis, not enough time to educate them all.

10 posted on 04/13/2013 11:29:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RoosterRedux
The drug-addled socialist will defend the veteran's free speech rights as enthusiastically as he defended Hobby Lobby's right to the free exercise of religion, my right to keep and bear arms, property owner rights not to be subject to excessive EPA fines, the restriction of the federal government to enumerated powers, the protection against unreasonable search and seizure when his IRS claimed the power to read private emails without a warrant, and the natural born citizen eligibility requirements for the position he has usurped. Or in the liar's own words, one of the rare times he told even a partial truth: Arab and Pakistani Americans . . . I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
11 posted on 04/13/2013 11:30:18 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Fast5

I actually emailed this company after reading Eddie’s post a week or two ago. Here’s the trail (sorry for the length-it covers three emails)

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I heard how your company asked a veteran to cover up a tattoo that was in arabic because it offended some of your customers from Qatar.

Shame on you! Your customers from Qatar are not required to look at anyone’s tattoos. You place the value of business and the dollar over a wounded veteran.

I’ll send my family to skydive at your company when the women there are wearing Burkas. How’s that? Women who do not wear burkas are offensive to look at.

You should be incredibly humiliated. Your web page would be a great place to place an apology to that veteran, in bold letters, at the top. Until then, I will join him in the effort to point out your unbelievably heinous and unpatriotic behavior.

You guys can keep kissing the arab butt.

*************Here is the response I got from Betty Hill*****
Good Evening,

It gives me a heavy heart to ever think that anyone that knows us would think we would be disrespectful to anyone from any country. This is a neutral place for all walks of the world to come to and enjoy. You may have not heard the complete story.

Yesterday afternoon we had an issue with a tattoo and the Qatar General bought it to our attention and that it was very offensive to him and to the other Qatar’s that were here. So manifest said she would ask Eddie to come talk to me about it. I asked Eddie if he had something to wear to cover it up while he was here and he said he did not, I said maybe a piece of tape or a little duct would work. Then he proceeded to say well maybe I will go over to Tampa Bay or somewhere to jump and I said then that was your choice to leave. He left my office and nothing else was said until we start getting slanderous phone calls and the facebook and social media began. He was never asked to leave. He volunteered to leave on his own. Betty

*****my follow up email to Betty********
Sorry Betty. You still don’t get it. Which one of those customers has proven they are willing to fight for your freedom and right to do business? You spit on that veteran. Of course he wanted to leave. Instead of telling your friends from Qatar to ignore the tattoo because this is a free country and perhaps they should concentrate on the jump at hand,,you did indeed disrespect that veteran. It is what you did. It is something you should not be proud of. Where has there been any slander? He is reporting the situation as you are reporting it. Asking a veteran to cover up a tattoo that no one is forced to look at is ridiculous. He is the one who should be offended and he was. Why did you not push back against the other customers? That makes no sense, well to some of us anyway. I suspect Eddie will continue to repeat his story to anyone who will listen. He has a lot of sympathy. We don’t live in Qatar. We live in the USA. To most there is no mystery about where the loyalty lies. I dare say there are more veterans who are customers than customers from Qatar. However, it is clear you and your business have made your choice. It is a sad choice indeed. Perhaps Qatar is a place you should consider relocating to. Clearly you respect people from that region much more than a US combat veteran.

I am sorry to not hear one regret about the situation. Hopefully you will have more Qatar customers in your future. I suspect the customers who are veterans will go elsewhere,,which will probably suit you just fine.

So sad.


12 posted on 04/13/2013 11:35:12 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

“because it offended Muslims” is a stupid reason, there are a lot of better reasons to ban tattoos being exposed on the job.


13 posted on 04/13/2013 11:38:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Fast5
I guess this lady is ready to bow down and put on a berka. She can KMA as I totally support the vet in this matter. She can allow her preference to islam to contaminate her own mind but the rest of us live in the greatest nation on earth the USA. The USA allows freedom of speech and freedom of expression.
Message to all vets... Never, ever, give a dime of your money to these people. Never ever jump from any of their aircraft or use their instruction. Pass the word at every meeting that involves vets nationwide.
I wonder what good old Betty will do after that business venture goes broke. Sure I'm going to put duct tape on my leg. Right after you give yourself a Brazilian wax with super glue.
14 posted on 04/13/2013 11:39:26 AM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Fast5

Question: What were a group of Qatari “policemen” doing here in Florida,anyway? Gonna take some jumbo jet flying & skydiving lessons?
That story sounds like one we remember from Sep 11, 2001.


15 posted on 04/13/2013 11:42:35 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Fast5
My favorite cap at the range:


16 posted on 04/13/2013 11:45:23 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: austinaero

Good job! Why are people from Qutar wanting to sky dive over here anyway?


17 posted on 04/13/2013 11:52:35 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: carriage_hill
That veteran had an absolute right to walk around with that tattoo, and the Qataris who whined about it should have been told to stick it.

That being said, as a Christian I don't like it when other Christians wear caps like the one pictured or make similar statements either verbally or otherwise.

Those Qataris are the ones who are the non-believers. I am a believer, I am not an infidel.

18 posted on 04/13/2013 11:54:54 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Rusty0604
Why are people from Qutar wanting to sky dive over here anyway?

That way they don't have to learn how to land the plane.

19 posted on 04/13/2013 12:06:07 PM PDT by marron
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To: GeronL

I totally agree!


20 posted on 04/13/2013 12:06:20 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: carriage_hill

Okay where did you get it?


21 posted on 04/13/2013 12:06:29 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Fast5

After reading more accounts as to what happened, I’d say both sides behaved OK. More controversy is unnecessary.

Florida Skydiving Center made an appropriate business decision. She talked to the vet in private and only asked he cover the tattoo, he said no and left. The business decided to serve a group of customers v. one customer. The customer had other places available for the same service & left quietly.

Skydiving co.s should be wary of dodgy looking possible terrorists, but these from Qatar were vetted. The business could have offered the vet a discount if he covered the tattoo.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 12:07:39 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: austinaero

If anyone is interested, here is their web page (still without an apology to Eddie, or any veteran)

http://www.floridaskydiving.com/

You can click the blue horizontal bar to get the drop down menu that reveals how to contact them.

Have fun!


23 posted on 04/13/2013 12:09:50 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: RicocheT

Now, what to do about an employee who has cost your business revenue?


24 posted on 04/13/2013 12:10:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

If he is not in a protected class [race, disabled, union] fire him. If protected call your lawyer or hitman.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 12:15:48 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: GeronL

The delicious irony is that he’s getting jacked up for calling himself what they call him. Sort of the converse of “we can call ourselves niggers, but don’t you care call us that, honky”. And no, I didn’t asterisk the letters, because it’s not a curse word. It’s ugly and objectionable, but it’s not a curse word.


26 posted on 04/13/2013 12:19:08 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: RoosterRedux
Gee, I wonder where Obama ObOzO would stand on this issue?

A wild guess would have Kevin not be like a son to dumBO, so he can expect the full force of the Injustice Department.

I have tried to live by a corollary of the Golden Rule, that it is not possible to not give offense, but, it is possible to take no offense.

27 posted on 04/13/2013 12:19:11 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: jagusafr

It’s strange they’d be offended by the man tagging himself as an infidel.

Also kind of strange that a person in their right mind would tag themselves with it.


28 posted on 04/13/2013 12:22:51 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

They were offended.
Well, I’m offended that they’re offended, which I am sure will no doubt offend them even more, to which I of course, will be extremely, extremely offended, which will place them in such an over-the-top state of offense that... well you get it.
Two can play at this game.


29 posted on 04/13/2013 12:27:40 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

He was simply accepting the label they give people like him, which I find offensive.

lol


30 posted on 04/13/2013 12:29:23 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Fast5

I had a tattoo ready to go that said “Jesus Bless America” in Arabic (I didn’t want “Allah” written on me, so I went straight to Jesus rather than “God”).

I should dig that up and get it done.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 12:31:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: RicocheT

I totally disagree with you in every possible way. This is America and the demand that one should be able to walk around “unoffended” is just ridiculous, ESP if you are a muslim visiting our country. Period. If they didn’t like the tattoo, stop looking at it. Easy. The business owner did NOT do the right thing. She should have said, this is America and sometimes you see things that are offensive. But she didn’t push back against them gawking at his tattoo. Why not? This is outrageous!


32 posted on 04/13/2013 12:33:36 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: GeronL

Well then we’re both offended! Who can we go whine to?


33 posted on 04/13/2013 12:34:31 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Global Whining

we are all victims now


34 posted on 04/13/2013 12:36:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: austinaero
“...and the Qatar General bought it to our attention and that it was very offensive to him and to the other Qatar’s that were here.”

It would never in a million years occur to me, when in a foreign country to COMPLAIN about some affectation I saw there. Funny how it seems to INSTANTLY occur to visitors to America to lodge complaints against Americans; to say NOTHING of how quickly the Americans being complained to accede to the complainer.

35 posted on 04/13/2013 12:42:03 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: GeronL

I’ve seen it before - bravado and grunts sort of go together. Gotta love that about ‘em, frankly!


36 posted on 04/13/2013 12:49:55 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: wideawake; verga
I got it , in several colors, at Life,Liberty,Etc

https://www.lifelibertyetc.com/

They're closed/out-of-business, now. Try one of these places:

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=infidel+cap&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

I'm aso a Christian - "Recovering Methodist", actually - but just wear it to piss-off the few muzzie filth at the ranges. I usually wear this cap with protective eargear:


37 posted on 04/13/2013 12:58:26 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: austinaero

She probably did not push back on the Muslims because there was more money there, probably a lot more money. If push comes to pull as something general in this Nation it will be money that rules the day.


38 posted on 04/13/2013 12:58:29 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Fast5

And a photographer or baker who refuses to give service to a same sex couple is roasted over a spit.
This has nothing to do with fairness. Everything to do with eliminating normal people.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 1:00:05 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: austinaero

The Contact Us bar is not functional. Probably disabled due to citizen responses.


40 posted on 04/13/2013 1:16:23 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: carriage_hill

WHERE can I get a hat like that?!?


41 posted on 04/13/2013 1:46:32 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

The online store where I got mine and ‘Molon Labe’ hats, is closed.

Here’s a black one:

http://www.priorservice.com/infidel-black-ball-cap.html?utm_source=pricegrabber&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=comparisonshopping


42 posted on 04/13/2013 2:15:15 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: RoadGumby

Here’s a tan one:

http://mazys.com/tea-party/infidel-hats/infidel-ball-cap-khaki-with-black-embroidery?cPath=23&;


43 posted on 04/13/2013 2:16:32 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: RoadGumby

Olive Green:

http://mazys.com/tea-party/infidel-hats/infidel-ball-cap-olive-green-with-black-embroidery


44 posted on 04/13/2013 2:18:31 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: Minutemen

ya know, you gave a valid point. as there were 2 officers that said that this training would make a good soft target on like say Disney World? just hijack the jumper plane and in less than 30mins there ya go.


45 posted on 04/13/2013 4:26:40 PM PDT by Fast5 (That Just Ain't Rite.)
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To: GeronL

i didn’t think he was there to work. i thought he was a customer, there to jump, just like the camel humpers.


46 posted on 04/13/2013 5:52:27 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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