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Grover Norquist Goes After Heritage Foundation Over Illegal Alien Amnest
Front Page Mag ^ | April 10, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 04/14/2013 10:00:20 AM PDT by AuntB

Grover Norquist, champion of Islamism infiltration, is working to advance the cause of tax reform by backing an illegal alien amnesty that will impose a whopping economic burden on the country… leading to higher taxes.

The contradiction is obvious. If you’re going to legalize 12 million undocumented Democrats plus all their family members then you are tremendously boosting the welfare state on the receiving end and the voting end.

The only way that the pro-amnesty side can win the amnesty debate is by not having it. And that means going after any sources of facts and taking them down.

The first target were anti-illegals groups like CIS and FAIR which were smeared as eugenicists. But the next set of targets is even bigger.

Norquist says that he’s trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.”

“The bitter-enders who are still responding to radio talk-show hosts from eight years ago haven’t noticed that the world has shifted from underneath them,” he says.

For bitter-ender, read conservative. The world has shifted is a favorite progressive argument. So it’s not too much of a shock that Norquist is using it.

It’s usually people who want to shift the world who are the ones to claim that it already happened. And whining about talk radio is a favorite liberal hobby. Norquist is too cowardly to actually name names, but we have a pretty good who his targets are.

Meanwhile Norquist is hitting Robert Rector of Heritage for accurately calculating the real costs of illegal immigration. And Norquist’s counter-arguments mix drivel with phony pandering.

“The idea of treating people as a liability — that more people coming in might go on welfare — that’s an argument against having babies, that’s an argument for car accidents, an argument for abortion,” he tells me. “We ought to be in favor of people not getting killed in car accidents, not getting aborted, and immigrating to the United States — and reforming welfare. You don’t screw up your policies to fit a stupid government program. You reform the stupid government program.”

You can see that Norquist’s big idea was to equate pro-illegal immigration with pro-life to win over Evangelical Christians.

But Norquist’s arguments fail in every way possible.

1. The issue is not opposition to immigration, but he legalization of illegal immigration. Legalizing illegal immigration from south of the border erases immigration quotas and eliminates the border for all intents and purposes, no matter how much amnestiers talk about border security.

2. Legalizing 12 million voters who will support that stupid government program makes reforming it impossible. Norquist knows this and by putting illegal alien amnesty first and tax reform second, he is showing where his real priorities lie.

3. Having children is a human birthright. Moving to another country isn’t. Equating the two is just stupid.

4. Keeping illegal aliens from some of the most violent parts of the world out of the country helps make it possible for Americans to have children who will have a future instead of facing lifelong unemployment or being murdered.

Mark Kirkorian at the National Review’s Corner conclusively smacks down Norquist’s complete lack of credibility.

Grover Norquist has been most forthright in attempting to purge capitalist roaders immigration skeptics from the party (as Betsy Woodruff outlines in a new piece on the homepage). He sent out a memo yesterday attacking Heritage and claiming that “Robert Rector’s work does not speak for the conservative movement; in fact, it does not even speak for the Heritage Foundation.” In comments to the Daily Caller earlier today, Norquist was even more cutting, implying incompetence on the part of Ed Feulner and Jim DeMint: “When [Heritage vice president for research] Burt Pines was there, you couldn’t have gotten it out the door.” He didn’t suggest that Jim DeMint is a secret abortionist, but that’s not far off.

Heritage has not conceded anything to Norquist and its other attackers, and Jim DeMint just today on Laura Ingraham’s show reiterated that amnesty would have a “huge cost” and that the political class has to earn the trust of the public by enforcing the law before discussing amnesty.

Norquist is hurling stones from a glass house. He has insulted Phyllis Schlafly for the entertainment of The New Yorker’s readers; he’s pro-gay marriage; he was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae, playing his small part in crashing the economy; he pitched the Marianas’ indentured labor program — marked by official corruption, sex slavery, and forced abortions — as a shining example of the free market; he was practically married to Jack Abramoff; and now, as a board member of the American “Conservative” Union, he is helping direct an organization that’s soliciting industry money to lobby against spending cuts.


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You ALL need to read this one! Then follow it up with learning about Grover's amnesty counterpart, the chief of staff (after he worked for Soros!) for Marco Rubio:

Who is Cesar Conda? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3007546/posts

1 posted on 04/14/2013 10:00:20 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

This guy needs to be dug up by his roots and tossed.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 10:03:00 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: AuntB

Norquist, aside from Reagan’s idiot son, is one of the loony left’s favorite Konservatives.


3 posted on 04/14/2013 10:10:09 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana; sickoflibs; Travis McGee; Carry_Okie; dixiechick2000; montag813; blackie; ...

“You can see that Norquist’s big idea was to equate pro-illegal immigration with pro-life to win over Evangelical Christians. “

This is the MO of these subversives. They throw you a ‘social conservative’ bone and then undermine us ALL behind closed doors.

Norquists, Americans for Tax Reform, is little more than a money laundering scam. While we send him $$$, he lobbies for CAIR, Microsoft, GE...that’s who he wants to lower taxes for, not the rest of us! That’s who wants AMNESTY and uncontrolled immigration, NOT US! He has hijacked nearly every ‘conservative’ institution...Cpac, ACU, THE TEA PARTY and is on the board of the NRA...will they be the next to go ‘squishy’?

My favorite Norquist quote: “I started out as a right-winger, and when I retire I want to be a squishy middle-of-the-roader,” he jokes, chortling at the thought.


4 posted on 04/14/2013 10:20:57 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

He’s married to a Muslim, I think!! GO AWAY, GROVER.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 10:23:11 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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6 posted on 04/14/2013 10:27:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: AuntB
Greenfield is "must read" (how I hate to use that presumption) everyday.

Norquist is an Islamist.

The elites need to be more concerned whether they will obtain amnesty before presuming to hand it out so insanely to a Mexico City-sized new protected class of La Raza.

This is going to be a long week. The elites and their kibuki world's greatest deliberative body are hoping to overwhelm the People, whom they would desolve, if they could, by carrying forward votes on multiple fronts.

7 posted on 04/14/2013 10:28:09 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Ann Archy
"He’s married to a Muslim, I think!! GO AWAY, GROVER."

Indeed he is. He is also a favorite and attendee of CAIR and pushed the ground zero Mosque. One radical islamist contributed thousands of $$ to Norquist's Islamic institute. Obama's radical Islam advisors are Norquist associates. http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2013/04/obamas-radical-muslim-advisors-are.html

...and it just get worse from there. This is the guy running CPAC and the ACU and using the tea party label to fund raise to use against us.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 10:32:13 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Norquist is a domestic enemy.


9 posted on 04/14/2013 10:34:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: AuntB

I’d like to know how these new laws differ from Ellis Island and how white people came here?


10 posted on 04/14/2013 10:37:43 AM PDT by edcoil (If the man was accused of leadership, there would not be enough evidence to convict him.)
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To: AuntB
What our government is considering here is criminal. Treason against the American people.

But I don't know what can be done to stop it.

11 posted on 04/14/2013 11:05:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: AuntB
OMG!!!! Did Grover TURN MUSLIM, too???

He's a CREEP.

12 posted on 04/14/2013 11:07:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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13 posted on 04/14/2013 11:09:48 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Ann Archy

“OMG!!!! Did Grover TURN MUSLIM, too???”

All I know of that is that he refuses to answer the question.

More about GRover and his counterpart...WHO is Cesar Conda?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3007546/posts


14 posted on 04/14/2013 11:12:35 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
I argue that citizenship and life are connected.

The Liberal argument is that being born transforms you both into a "person" and a "citizen" at the moment of your birth.

The pro-life position is that your personhood and citizenship are inherent in your very existence.

Birth is not a Magical transformation. It is merely an emergence from one world to another.

15 posted on 04/14/2013 11:16:40 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: AuntB

Grover has outlived his usefulness. I have never understood how someone who has had a one-sentence mantra for however many years becomes this religious icon. Now, he has apparently made his peace with his lower chakras. Isn’t there a Conservative bus people like him can be thrown under? The libs have no problem with this. And they don’t take no kind of twenty years to figure it out.


16 posted on 04/14/2013 11:17:49 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Norquist is a domestic enemy."

Indeed. So is Suhail Khan, another radical Islam promoter, now running CPAC.

See: http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2013/04/bitter-enders-unite-guess-whos-behind.html

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17 posted on 04/14/2013 11:19:03 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“Isn’t there a Conservative bus people like him can be thrown under?”

We better find it fast! Because Norquist and his lobbyist associates are who writes LAW for the GOP. He authored the Bush/McCain/Kennedy Amnesty. And he & Cesar Conda are writing this one.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 11:21:37 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Remember during the fight for “obamacare” the uninsured were 32 million, and the greater part of the uninsured were the “poor, underpaid workers,” (they were careful to insist they were NOT including the “undocumented?” That was a lie. The unemployment rate was above 8% and the uninsured were illegal aliens holding American jobs.

Now that the subject is “immigration reform,” the number has suddenly shrank to a mere 11 million. This is another lie. The number of illegal aliens here is closer to 20 million plus including their family members.

CA was a Republican state in presidential elections through 1988, but after Reagan’s ‘86 amnesty, CA is solid demonic-rat.

The same will happen to Texas and most other Republican states, if this “immigration reform” passes.

Republicans will go from the Stupid Party to the Suicide Party and kill the Republic.

Mob Rule will ensue.


19 posted on 04/14/2013 11:24:30 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

“Remember during the fight for “obamacare” the uninsured were 32 million, and the greater part of the uninsured were the “poor, underpaid workers,” (they were careful to insist they were NOT including the “undocumented?” That was a lie. The unemployment rate was above 8% and the uninsured were illegal aliens holding American jobs.

Now that the subject is “immigration reform,” the number has suddenly shrank to a mere 11 million. This is another lie. The number of illegal aliens here is closer to 20 million plus including their family members.

CA was a Republican state in presidential elections through 1988, but after Reagan’s ‘86 amnesty, CA is solid demonic-rat.

The same will happen to Texas and most other Republican states, if this “immigration reform” passes.

Republicans will go from the Stupid Party to the Suicide Party and kill the Republic.

Mob Rule will ensue.”

Perfect summary, Onyx. Thanks.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 11:27:41 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Here’s the deal, very simply:

A) On one hand we have the agenda of ever-enlarging godless, hedonistic, humanistic socialism, as has been done in Europe over the past several centuries. This is the public agenda of the players who play the role of “Democrat” in America. Almost none of them realize who they are really doing the bidding of.

B) On the other hand we have those who oppose that agenda.

New world order knows that if they start front organizations pushing the A) agenda, there will be considerable public opposition.

So what to do ? New world order starts its own groups who take up one aspect or another, or several aspects, of opposition. The B) argument. Now, if there are say, 300 opposition groups, but 180 of them are run by new world order, those people who are trying to “grassroots”-style oppose the A) agenda - will unwittingly most of the time be working for new world order.

One B) group may be for lower taxes, but be pro-muslim. Another may be anti-muslim, but pro-fornication. Another may advocate lower government spending, but be pro-sodomy.

Consequently, the opposition becomes a battlefield that is cloudy and confused.

And since A) appeals to sinful man’s nature to give in to temptation of sins of the flesh, free stuff, etc., A) keeps making steady progress over the centuries. A key part of new world order’s strategy is subverting the correcting influence of Biblical churches and elders (done by corrupting seminaries), as well as the Biblical family structure.

Figures like Norquist don’t even need to know they are working on behalf of new world order. They can just take off in their own direction, and, like a “detached process” in computer-speak, they simply continue working away.

The true believer will realize temptation, sin and wickedness when they see it, according to God’s will. Often after a lifetime of sin a man will see the light, again, according to God’s will.

The Bible, God’s Word, exhorts the true believer to publish the Word of God, and call out evil and identify it for all to see.


21 posted on 04/14/2013 11:37:23 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: AuntB
IT GETS BETTER AUNT B, watch this amazing video in glee as ANNIE COULTER pounds some sense into the this fuzzy's noggin.... THE same way she handles libtard college kids when they pop up with dumb questions...on her visits to university campuses. Here the magnificent Miss Coulter plays wack-a-mole with GROVER'S amazingly off the charts nutty points here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBorge8smc&feature=player_detailpage#t=23s


22 posted on 04/14/2013 11:42:55 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: AuntB

In saner times... we would have executed Grover Norquist for Treason

He is pro-Islamic Terrorist, pro-Illegal Alien, and pro-government spending. No Real Conservative supports him or his seditious group


23 posted on 04/14/2013 11:45:05 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: AuntB
Thanks for the link!
24 posted on 04/14/2013 11:52:47 AM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: SeminoleCounty

“In saner times... we would have executed Grover Norquist for Treason

He is pro-Islamic Terrorist, pro-Illegal Alien, and pro-government spending. No Real Conservative supports him or his seditious group”

The problem is ‘his group’...it’s dozens of them, he’s got his fingers into everything! He’s on the board or runs nearly every entity that we consider ‘conservative’.


25 posted on 04/14/2013 11:54:17 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: max americana

Yep. Don’t even need to know the issue to know which side to take in Norquist vs. DeMint. Grover should have been drummed out of GOP influence years ago.


26 posted on 04/14/2013 12:03:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: skeeter
Have everyone that you know contact everyone that they know to contact everyone that they know and have all of them call their congress critters and tell them HELL NO!

we did it before, we can do it again. Put the fear of God into these spineless wimps.

If they think that they might not get reelected and have to get a real job to provide for themselves they just might do the right thing. If this passes the Republic is finished.

27 posted on 04/14/2013 12:45:32 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: AuntB

Grover Norquist is a traitor!!

Be Ever Vigilant!!


28 posted on 04/14/2013 1:19:33 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: AuntB

Good grief! How do we remove this cancerous hemmoroid? Let him keep CPAC with his jihad pals and conservatives abandon the organization? He has nothing to do with being an American nor a conservative. He’s a globalist representing the most racist, the grossest, most barbaric part of the New World Order. His mob is advocating against the bill of rights!


29 posted on 04/14/2013 3:43:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

“Good grief! How do we remove this cancerous hemmoroid? Let him keep CPAC with his jihad pals and conservatives abandon the organization? He has nothing to do with being an American nor a conservative. He’s a globalist representing the most racist, the grossest, most barbaric part of the New World Order. His mob is advocating against the bill of rights!”

Yes, Ma’am. I don’t know what to do but keep telling people until they listen. I keep waiting for Hannity, Levin, Beck, Rush to say something about this guy or Conda or Khan (and all of them are Rove’s buddies..oh, yes, he’s in this thick!). Please email them. I know they get mine, but it’s ignored and Rove is still on Hannity every week. And NO ONE ever mentions Norquist.

A lot of what these lobbyists are doing is ‘non profits’ in what really looks like money laundering and Norquist has been investigated, but never gets nailed, refuses to show who many of his contributors are (???Cair, Soros, Media matters?? WHO KNOWS!)...he makes Abramoff look like a choirboy!

[snip] “And he’s [Norquist] personally doing fine: ...he gets two-thirds of his funding from two big corporate billionaire-backed nonprofits: the Center to Protect Patients Rights, which donated $4,189,000 to Americans for Tax Reform in 2010, and Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS, which gave him $4 million.”

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Karl+Rove


30 posted on 04/14/2013 4:48:12 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Read on twitter earlier, “Saying we need “a path to citizenship” is brilliantly deceptive messaging when talking about people who avoided the clear path that exists.’


31 posted on 04/14/2013 4:56:27 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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To: DakotaRed

““Saying we need “a path to citizenship” is brilliantly deceptive messaging when talking about people who avoided the clear path that exists.’”

It worked on me years ago. I’d hear that phrase and think, Great! They want to be citizens, that’s wonderful!...Yeah, I was a total pollyanna on this subject at one time. Then a good friend, who I’d stood with on property rights grabbed me one day and said, ‘you have NO idea what is going on and what a mess we’re in. That was a dozen years ago. And it’s gotten worse and more unmanageable every day since.


32 posted on 04/14/2013 5:07:35 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SaraJohnson

“Good grief! How do we remove this cancerous hemmoroid? Let him keep CPAC with his jihad pals and conservatives abandon the organization? He has nothing to do with being an American nor a conservative. He’s a globalist representing the most racist, the grossest, most barbaric part of the New World Order. His mob is advocating against the bill of rights!”


Exactly why I did not attend CPAC this year and I live ten minutes away from National Harbor. They’ll be receiving no more money from me. Conservative Union, indeed. Like another poster spelled it, “Konservative” is more like it.

To quote another FReeper, “The Taliban are inside the building.”

God help us.


33 posted on 04/14/2013 6:07:04 PM PDT by Unc1e_Ivan (People sleep peaceably at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I couldn’t agree with ya more Sem. That anti-American pro islamic terrorist muslim, Grover Norquist, is also an NRA board member, and has been for a while now. Now that is really a kick in the gut to all of us/those who once supported the NRA 100% with our money and out time isn’t it? It makes me sick.


34 posted on 04/14/2013 7:48:57 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: bobby.223
Inshallah, kafir! It's a Dar al harb world!
35 posted on 04/15/2013 5:39:02 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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