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War Against the Young
National Review ^ | 4/9/13 | Victor Davis Hansen

Posted on 04/14/2013 10:46:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins

“What’s the matter with Kansas?” syndrome of young people voting against their economic interests. Thus follows the constant courting of the hip and cool Beyoncé, Jay-Z, Lena Dunham, Occupy Wall Streeters, and others who blend pop culture, sex, youth, energy, and fad — almost anything to avoid the truth that today’s teenagers are starting out each owing a lifetime share of the national debt amounting to more than three-quarters of a million dollars. Those who ran up the debt enjoyed the borrowing, but won’t be around to pay back their proverbial fair share.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: debt; democrats; economy; elections; fairshare; genx; geny; screwed; taxes; young; youpayforthis; yourshare; youth

1 posted on 04/14/2013 10:46:46 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins

Last paragraph sums it all up. But it is depressing to contemplate how much pandering the GOP is really engaged in. Explaining economic reality to the voters of tomorrow? Nobody in the GOP got time for dat.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 10:54:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: goodnesswins

“What’s the matter with Kansas?”

Hmmm. 
 
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=osawatomie

 

Dn't need n Weatherman t see which waybama's wind

blws.

 

"Behind the Violence, Says Jane Alpert, Was Sex"

--November 09, 1981--
"The leaders of the Weather Underground, she believes, followed a similar pattern of constantly shifting sexual alliances..."

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20080637,00.html

"He [Bill Ayers] also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

Source: New York Times, September 11, 2001: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

"...the Weathermen, when not engaged in group sex, committed such revolutionary acts as parading with a Viet Cong flag through a local park on Independence Day and spray-painting the walls of a high school with the slogans, "Off the Pigs," "Viet Cong Will Win," and "F#$k U.S. Imperialism."..."

Campus Wars: The Peace Movement At American State Universities in the Vietnam Era

 

"What happens next bears watching closely, as does the response of the president, ex-Speaker Pelosi, and others on the left.  Encouraged by leftists in the Democratic Party and funded by left-leaning nonprofit organizations and celebrity contributors, Occupy Wall Street may in time morph into something resembling the radical factions of the late 1960s and 1970s."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/predicting_the_weatherman.html

The Osawatomie Coincidence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818309/posts


3 posted on 04/14/2013 10:55:31 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
it is depressing to contemplate how much pandering the GOP is really engaged in...

...and how long they've been engaged in it.
 
"Ohhhhho say can you seee...."
 
Eyes Wide Shut

"8-1984 - Lawrence King [Homosexual and alleged Pedophile] throws a lavish party in Dallas, Texas, after singing the National Anthem at the Republican National GOP Convention."

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Lawrence+king+singing+pedophile+franklin&oq=Lawrence+king+singing+pedophile+franklin

 

http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9


4 posted on 04/14/2013 10:58:35 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: goodnesswins

It is pretty much mathematically impossible at this point to pay off the debt whatever your age or income, nothing to do with being young in particular.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 11:09:05 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: goodnesswins

“Some people inherit stars in their eyes
Oh, they worry about the poor
When you ask them ‘How much should we give?’
They just answer ‘More! More! More!’

It ain’t me, it ain’t me babe, I ain’t no liberal’s son!
It ain’t me, it ain’t me babe, I ain’t had no Ivy League fun!”


6 posted on 04/14/2013 11:12:05 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: goodnesswins
Ironically, some of republicans and conservatives biggest setbacks have come at the hands of republican presidents.

Justice Roberts is only the most recent addition to the long list of republican appointees to the Supreme Court who turned on their benefactors and supported liberal positions on bellwether issues.

His twisted rationalization in support of Obamacare is probably the most mind-boggling, maddening abuse of Judicial power since Roe v. Wade.

Eisenhower publicly supported lowering the voting age to 18 in his 1954 State of the Union address.

But it was Richard Nixon who signed an extension of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that required the voting age to be 18 in all federal, state, and local elections.

George “Dubya” Bush created the bureaucratic montrosity known as Homeland Security. A Federal organization that now is more obsessed with demonizing and stifling law abiding, patriotic citizens than in protecting our borders and countering foreign terrorists.

7 posted on 04/14/2013 12:56:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: TArcher; goodnesswins

“What’s the matter with Kansas?”

I love Kansas, but it also must be pointed out that the birthplace of Frank Davis was Arkansas City, Kansas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis


8 posted on 04/14/2013 1:06:37 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Iron Munro
But it was Richard Nixon who signed an extension of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that required the voting age to be 18 in all federal, state, and local elections.

Because risking one's life for one's country at age 19 without being allowed to vote is the ultimate form of taxation without representation. And it can't have been in 1965 because he wasn't president then.

But in 1971, it took just over two months for the required 38 states to ratify the 26th Amendment -- the quickest ratification in history.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/news/9606/28/18.year.old.voting/index.shtml

9 posted on 04/14/2013 1:20:40 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: goodnesswins

Had Romney competent advisers, this would have been a major campaign issue Dems always try to dupe the youth (see my tagline) and we foolishly voted against not just our own interests, but the country’s interests at large. Now we see the tangled web we helped weave. Kids today are going to get slammed with these deficits and the impending ones with social security and medicare, student loans, credit cards, housing and who knows what else. Oh well, and immigration’s impacts too. Wake up, Youth of America


10 posted on 04/14/2013 1:26:55 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Iron Munro
"Eisenhower publicly supported lowering the voting age to 18 in his 1954 State of the Union address."

Why was this a GOP mistake? A lot of 18-21 guys served under Eisenhower. I was one. He was well liked and voted for by a lot of young people.

Young people vote for the GOP when they are doing well with jobs and no wars, including both Bushs and Reagan. But Romney and McCain are war-mongerings zeros in their eyes. Their view of the future ends with war and the wallet of their supporters. Sad how the GOP dissed away their support.

11 posted on 04/14/2013 1:35:09 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

I was 18 and 22 when I voted for Bush. I stand by those votes, if only because it stopped Gore and Kerry presidencies.


12 posted on 04/14/2013 1:39:43 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Excellence
And it can't have been in 1965 because he [Nixon] wasn't president then.

That is not what I said.

You didn't actually read what I posted before you jumped all over me.

Did you?

Here is my comment:

But it was Richard Nixon who signed an extension of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that required the voting age to be 18 in all federal, state, and local elections.

Note that Nixon signed an extension of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

He did not sign an extension of the Voting Rights Act in 1965.

13 posted on 04/14/2013 1:40:18 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: TEXOKIE; goodnesswins
"As Obama remembered, "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Power, dashiki self. In some ways he was as incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."[36] Obama also remembered Frank later in life when he took a job in South Chicago as a community organizer..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=748&q=%22Frank+Marshall+Davis%22+Ann+Dunham


Uhuh.

14 posted on 04/14/2013 1:40:51 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: ex-snook
Why was this a GOP mistake?

How Voters 18 to 29 Years Of Age Voted

2008 Election:

66% Obama
32% McCain

2012 Election:

60% Obama
37% Romney


15 posted on 04/14/2013 1:47:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Iron Munro

Are you happy he signed it?
Because you’re talkin’ ‘bout my generation.


16 posted on 04/14/2013 2:02:53 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: TArcher

Osawatomie was called that in remembrance of John Brown of Kansas.

Just finished a book about him. While a rebel, he was most definitely not a commie. He would have had these guys for a light mid-morning snack.


17 posted on 04/14/2013 2:08:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“The Pottawatomie Massacre, as the Brown killings were known, aroused emotions and distrust on both sides. It was denounced by Southern and even some Northern newspapers. Unable to stabilize the situation, Shannon resigned as governor in August 1856.

By 1859 Brown had left Kansas, but in the meantime, he had taken part in the Battle of Black Jack on June 2, 1856, and led free staters in defending the town of Osawatomie from a pro-slavery attack in August 1856.

Many more skirmishes took place between antislavery and pro-slavery forces.”
http://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/pottawatomie-massacre/16699

It’s ironic that, 100 years later, the Useful Idiots in the Weatherunderground chose “Osawatomie” for publishing the screed of an ideology that had to build a wall to keep its Communist state property from pursuing happiness elsewhere.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: goodnesswins

Barefoot boy with cheeks of tan
One day you’ll be a barefoot man
Your elders are out on a spree
Squandering posterity

— 19th Century satirical verse


19 posted on 04/14/2013 2:31:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: TArcher

JB was most famous for his defense of the town of Osawatomie with 40 men against 250 to 300 border ruffians. Though eventually forced to withdraw, he caused heavy casualties in the attackers, who were glad to let him “get away.”

You may not like the guy, but he definitely had great big solid steel ones.

Also was a businessman most of his life, though unsuccessful. This was because he was a poor money manager, not because he didn’t work hard or have good ideas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Osawatomie


20 posted on 04/14/2013 2:32:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Actually, he was most famous for his defense of the town of Osawatomie before he became really famous at Harper's Ferry.
21 posted on 04/14/2013 2:33:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: goodnesswins

Actually, the young do not need anyone to wage war against them. By worshiping obama, hitching their plow to his star, and overwhelming voting for him in two consequitive elections, they are doing a pretty good job of doing themselves in.


22 posted on 04/14/2013 2:41:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: goodnesswins

There’s much of that history in Ks.

http://www.kshs.org/p/socialism-history-collection/14117

http://www.washburn.edu/reference/cks/mapping/h-j/

http://sunflowersocialists.org/history.html


23 posted on 04/14/2013 2:41:38 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Sherman Logan

August 1856, a nearly 5 years before the April 12, 1861 official start date of CW1.

Interesting history to learn.

As is this:

"Pro-slavery Southerners in Kansas Territory painted all Free-Staters as abolitionists in order to motivate the South's opposition. However, Eli Thayer and other New England Company leaders denied that they were seeking to abolish slavery, and the failed Topeka Constitution drafted by the Free-Staters in 1855 would have excluded any black person – slave or free – from settling in Kansas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-Stater_%28Kansas%29

 

 

 

24 posted on 04/14/2013 2:56:08 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

I have looked through the text of the Topeka Constitution and have been unable to locate any such provision. Here’s the only use of the word “negro” in the text. The words “black” and “colored” are not found.

“Sec. 21. No indenture of any negro or mulatto, made and executed out of the bounds of the State, shall be valid within the State.”

Here’s a link to the text:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080705182848/http://www.kshs.org/research/collections/documents/online/topekaconstitution.htm#article15

If you can find the provision to which you refer, I’d like to see it.

It is also fair to point out that this anti-black attitude was most definitely not Old John Brown’s POV.

The competing pro-slavery constitution had this lovely clause:

“23. Free negroes shall not be permitted to live in this State under any circumstances.”


25 posted on 04/14/2013 3:20:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Tax-chick

bttt


26 posted on 04/14/2013 3:32:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Just what this family needs: more smugness.)
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To: Sherman Logan

If you can find the provision to which you refer,


Is it not the same provision referred to by the link you just provided?



"The Topeka Constitution prohibited slavery but excluded free blacks from the state."

http://www.kshs.org/research/collections/documents/online/topekaconstitution.htm#article15

 

27 posted on 04/14/2013 3:37:12 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

You had these prepped, ready and loaded for firing?

LOL

good one.


28 posted on 04/14/2013 3:53:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: goodnesswins

Kind of silly to call it a war against the young, when the young are the ones most solidly voting for the pols implementing and defending the policies.


29 posted on 04/14/2013 4:29:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Iron Munro

Exactly.


30 posted on 04/14/2013 4:30:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Iron Munro

There’s more, lots more: Reagan shortened the life of my patents. Newt raised the price on them so now I have to rent them rather than owning them. Bush 41 restricted the re-import of our own surplus military small arms making the surplus firearms business almost disappear. Bush 43 blew fedearl spending all-to-bleep making it easy for Obamuzzie to spend us into oblivion-—I don’t need no more steenkeeng clever Republican theeenkeeng.


31 posted on 04/14/2013 4:45:26 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: 9YearLurker
 the young are the ones most solidly voting for the pols implementing and defending the policies.
 
How did that happen?
 
"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization".
 
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles..."
 
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts

32 posted on 04/14/2013 5:31:56 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Vendome

You should’ve seen my collection of pre-fabbed spitwads in Jr. High.

I never got out spit-wadded.


33 posted on 04/14/2013 5:34:24 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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34 posted on 04/14/2013 5:35:58 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: TArcher

Sorry, I must be blind.

Please reference article and section.


35 posted on 04/14/2013 5:54:33 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: goodnesswins
“Given a choice between gay marriage, legalization of pot, and the banning of so-called assault rifles on the one hand, and, on the other, a good job with lower taxes, most young people will quietly prefer the latter. For that reason, conservatives should not outbid liberals to appear cool to new voters, but simply explain that a fair economy for all generations is no longer on the liberal agenda.”

I agree our message must be for a fair economy. We must define fairness on the grounds of equality of opportunity.

36 posted on 04/14/2013 6:24:11 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: TArcher

Found it.

One of the electoral districts petitioned the Convention to incorporate in the Topeka Constitution a provision that blacks and mulattoes be excluded from the state. This was rejected by the Convention, but allowed to be voted on at the same time as the Constitution, I guess as a sort of referendum. So it never was in the actual text.

The referendum, or whatever it was, passed 2:1. I suppose at that time it became a law, or it would have once the Constitution was approved by Congress, which of course it never was.

The Constitution of 1859, which, much amended, is still the KS Constitution, has no such racial provision. The words black, colored, negro or mulatto do not appear in it. However, as was pretty standard at the time, suffrage and militia membership was limited to white males.


37 posted on 04/14/2013 6:32:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: goodnesswins

Lots of my fellow Gen Yers are this way because they simply don’t know any better.

Cold War was a faint memory as tykes, raised on a gluttonous diet of empty “You’re all a winner” platitudes, and the dot-com boom with all kinds of fancy new technology.

Sure the educational system is garbage, but a lot of kids didn’t have parents that cared at home, so long as they got good grades so they can be vicariously successful through their kids. Others were simply too immature getting high or drunk to bother parenting.

I think there’s a general sinking feeling that they’ve been lied to for so long, but it’s hard to tell whether certain individuals will accept that or live in denial by voting for more Obammunism.


38 posted on 04/14/2013 8:17:14 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: erlayman

The debt could be paid down a lot, by the government selling off its considerable assets of land and mineral rights, etc. to private concerns, and using the proceeds to pay it down.

Of course it would take someone with common sense to do that, fat chance.


39 posted on 04/14/2013 10:16:53 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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To: goodnesswins

Remember this saying?

“When you are 20 and is not a liberal, you have no heart. When you are 40 and is not a conservative, you have no brain.”


40 posted on 04/15/2013 3:45:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not when it’s the voters of today that elect you. This is the biggest transfer of wealth in our nations history and it’s absolutely backwards.

From the Founding America has transferred wealth forward to the next generation. WW2 and the destruction of our economic competitors hid the damage that FDR had done, but now that wealth is being taken from the future to support subsidizing the current generation. It’s terrible.


41 posted on 04/15/2013 3:48:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: TArcher

American school children have watched every Michael Moore video, Al Gore’s video, along with Food, Inc., Supersize Me, etc. by the time they’ve graduated HS. How many do you think ever watched the video of Bezmenov?

Government schooling is the worst idea ever. Get the government out of the education business.


42 posted on 04/15/2013 4:05:25 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Biggirl

Oh, yes, I do....and a few people here may want to be reminded. Thx.


43 posted on 04/15/2013 8:54:30 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Shadow44

Thanks for your perspective...keep educating your friends...


44 posted on 04/15/2013 8:56:55 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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