Skip to comments.North Korea rejects South Korea's calls for talks
Posted on 04/14/2013 12:11:31 PM PDT by mulder1
North Korea rejects South Korea calls for talks
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S. Korea should show what a “crafty trick” it would be to destroy the thousands of artillery pieces the NORKs have pointed at Seoul. Threaten war? Reject “talks?” No problem! [Boom!] No guns.
Obviously! S. Korea does not have excess food supplies to give to N.Korea. This is a repeat of the same movie again and again. N.Korea mis-behaves, US comes through with free aid. Who says blackmail does not work? It works with the dumb.
Kim is past the point of no return. H must act and carry through his threat or risk the greatest shame ever.
it’s possible that the latest Kim is either so inbred or so indoctrinated that he actually believes the crap his wretched family has been peddling for three generations.
Keep your eyes on the Chinese.
I think the nations are no longer going to deal with N.Korea’s blackmailing any longer. Kim and his rookies will have to do something ....and that something may very well be their end.
NK wants our money in exchange for a false promise.
S. Korea would not be the only nation sending in food if this goes down...they’ll be a mass entry of food from the International community...and very likely on standby currently.
This is not going to be a case of blackmailing succeeding this time around....not without a change in N.Korea’s leadership.
I think we’ll eventually see Kim ushered out of there....the Chinese taking over...but pretty much on the hush in order not to rile the cult followers.
Not sure why you believe that. Thus far this Kim has done nothing that wasn't done before and his predecessors were not ushered out of there. I think what you say could happen if he goes too far but thus far he hasn't made that move yet.
Where did you find that?
It’s likely Kim isn’t in charge, but is obeying a clique of corrupt generals who don’t want to lose their control over Korea’s economy (what there is of it) if the society opens up.
One is in a State of War
Held at Bay by an Armistice
Your Enemy Ends the Armistice
Saber rattling, openly threatening a nuclear first strike
What are we to do?
No one gives up power easily.
I found it the other day while searching for something else and remembered it was in my cache.
They never wanted to “talk”, they just wanted to thump their chest.
This is bad.
This is real bad.
N Korea has just defriended S Korea on Facebook
Good for South Korea.
That would put China in an awkward position. The Middle Kingdom hates to lose face, and would have to intervene in earnest. Better to have the Norks prove they’re not bluffing and give Seoul a bona fide casus beli, cross the border or something like that. Then China will be mad at the Norks over the face thing, and give only grudging help as required by their stupid pact, and a quiet green light to Seoul and Washington to smash all their guns.
How many people are going to die for an “ally” that is comprised largely of people who hate us and have no qualms about telling us they hate us to their faces?
If the Norks want the Sorks, I say we hand them over.
Norks and Sorks? I guess any Korean in the Demilitarized Zone is a Dork.
The problem with that is, as far as South Korea is concerned, a lot of people would be killed by the time they had the ability to stop it. Seoul is, what, 30 miles from the DMZ? There is no margin for error.
Seoul is target #1 for the NORKS.
>>Keep your eyes on the Chinese.
I suspect a certain resident of Yorba Linda would be nodding in agreement...
A lot more people will be killed if China comes in heavy on N Korea’s side like they did last time, and entirely too many of them Americans. A lot of people will be killed regardless. It’s war.
From China’s point of view, the Korean peninsula is nothing but a pain in the ass. If the North half of it becomes an even bigger pain than it already is, it will manipulate its considerable weight to see that it’s unified under the government in South Korea, and sign a new pact with them, on condition that they refrain from being a pain in the ass in the future.
If South Korea annoys it more, however, it will unify the Peninsula under North Korean government. Americans who are in harm’s way will be mauled and destroyed as a result, but if there’s war, there will be no future uneasy truces. 55+ years of that is enough for Middle Kingdom’s limited patience. They want an end, so they can go back to pretending they’re still communists, cracking down on Falon Gong practitioners, oppressing Tibetans, and all that Middle Kingom-y type stuff thet thar.
The object, then, isn’t to spare the poor people of South Korea, who will have to bleed and suffer regardless, but to maximize North Korea’s disfavor with China. That way American lives will be saved, and in the long run, North and South Korean small folk will live free and prosper as well. This is geopolitics. It’s not pretty, but it’s inescapable.
What coinky dink! I think it's a PIA, too! And I also pretty much agree with the rest of what you said, except I think you overestimate the NORK's abilities. If the North decides to reunify "on their terms" (IE, conquer the South), they will be wiped out as a military force. And I don't think it's up to China to decide. They might be willing to go to war over Taiwan, but I highly doubt they would again for the NORKS. They don't consider them to be Chinese.
And it would be bad for business.
That’s exactly what I’m hoping, that they don’t care about the Norks. They’ll pretend to go to war for the Norks, but really just do the bare minimum and laugh behind their hands as America’s still formidable armed forces cut them to bits and somehow China can’t manage to make it all better for little Kimmy. You may have to quietly throw in Taiwan to sweeten it for China. But the less Americans dying, the better.
Yet Grasping Hold of Power
And Calling it MINE
will Extinguish Joy in Ones Life
I've yet to see an exception to this rule
China need only be reminded about how well things are going for their economy to keep them from rocking the boat. They're not predisposed these days to love the NORKs. One of the most tightly guarded borders in the world is the one between China and North Korea.
Attempted illegal entry into China there will get you shot.
H as in Hussein? Nothing is going to come of this. This is a feint on both sides in which the Norks will demand an economic package, our side will appear to refuse, the Norks will demand it again, and we give it over to them. And little Colonel Barackamar Hussein Obamadaffi gets to look like a strong leader who faced down a rogue regime.
Barackamar Hussein Obamadaffi
Up to now “Containment” worked...despite the frustrations. But things have changed for China and S. Korea.....both economy's growing...not to mention technology isn't going to let the people there stay in the dark as before...they are realizing the lie they have lived under the Kim's. Therefore it would be better that China and the S. Koreans work at replacing Kim....then to wait until the people actually rise up and flood all the borders.
Some have said there's enough N.Koreans in the know now to make such a transition...but it still needs to be done on the “hush” while things are set in place.
Who really knows how things will work out...but the “Global World” is not going to want to deal with any rogue type nations....as we have seen occurring these past few years. One by one the leaders are being brought down. I think possible it's now Kim's turn...maybe not..but we'll see in time.
An example would be..have you noted they always make sure Un has an ashtray nearby? Even in the field pictures with Military, anything which resembles a desk will have one right there.
Also you can tell allot about any modernization....generally the phones are old style....very old in some instances....and the furniture is outdated. Also the military always have little notepads in hands to give the impression what Un might say should be noted.
My point is even their ability to “stage” a good photo is sooo lacking...they aren't very smart about it.
Cracking me up!!! LoL
Well they have been dealing with for 60 years and I don't see actions that indicate that China has had enough. In fact it sounds like the Chinese are using this to get extractions from Kerry on missile defense. These people don't think like us so it's hard to understand why either NK or China do what they do. :-)
.....”In fact it sounds like the Chinese are using this to get extractions from Kerry on missile defense”.....
Yes, I heard that as well...and may be part of the bargaining going on now for all parties involved because all want something for what they might give in this ordeal. One thing we do know ....the backdoor dealings are heavty this time around.
Hey come on... when we feed their staving suffering citizens, the thugs who run these 3rd world hellholes can funnel extra money to into their weapons programs.
See, it all makes sense.
What concessions will obama and kerry make this time?