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Rand Paul has lotsa 'splaining to do (PAGE TRIES TO BLACKSPLAIN SENATOR PAUL)
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 13, 2013 | Clarence the Crosseyed Page cpage@tribune.com

Posted on 04/14/2013 4:36:55 PM PDT by Chi-townChief

Yet, even if you buy that oversimplified view of history, as conservatives with selective memory often do, Paul completely omitted a much more important sea change, the seismic racial realignment that followed President Lyndon B. Johnson's 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In fact, Republican nominees continued to receive sizable black support; 39 percent to Dwight Eisenhower in his 1956 re-election, according to the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, and 32 percent to his vice president, Richard Nixon, in 1960.

But after conservatives nominated Sen. Barry Goldwater, who voted against the civil rights bill, to oppose Johnson in 1964, LBJ won 94 percent of the black vote. No Republican presidential candidate has received more than 15 percent of the black vote since.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: lefties; liberals; randpaul
Well, one thing is certain: by virtue of their presence in the audience, the Howard University students have shown a much more open mind than this foolish old Clarence.
1 posted on 04/14/2013 4:36:55 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Goldwater was absolutely correct to oppose that version of the civil rights act.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 4:38:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Chi-townChief

3 posted on 04/14/2013 4:38:57 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: cripplecreek
Goldwater was absolutely correct to oppose that version of the civil rights act.
Last week, on the Michael Medved Show, Senator Paul said he disagreed with Senator Goldwater's vote.
4 posted on 04/14/2013 4:40:52 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Chi-townChief

WOW! I thought you moved to France! Good to see you around!


5 posted on 04/14/2013 4:41:59 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Chi-townChief

“But after conservatives nominated Sen. Barry Goldwater, who voted against the civil rights bill, to oppose Johnson in 1964, LBJ won 94 percent of the black vote. No Republican presidential candidate has received more than 15 percent of the black vote since.”

And that was the start of “Thou shalt not question anything regarding blacks”.


6 posted on 04/14/2013 4:45:45 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Bratch

Goldwater knew that extending the civil rights act into the private sector would be a disaster and it has been.

Goldwater is treated as a racist but he was a founding member of the Arizona NAACP and supported a very limited version of affirmative action in the public sector.


7 posted on 04/14/2013 4:47:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RWB Patriot

Goldwater was honest about reaching out to blacks. He offered them a hand up instead of a hand out.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 4:49:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Black people today are over-overwhelmingly as monolithic as the KKK, as racist as the Arian Brotherhood, and as WRONG as the Communist Party..

Thats something when you consider most black people are not black..
Like Obama who is as white as he is black.. many are even whiter..

The philosopher that said he could make black white and white black.. was not whistling Dixie...
It’s being done every day.. in America..


9 posted on 04/14/2013 4:50:20 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Chi-townChief

Black people today are over-overwhelmingly as monolithic as the KKK, as racist as the Arian Brotherhood, and as WRONG as the Communist Party..


10 posted on 04/14/2013 4:53:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Chi-townChief

Libs should stay far away from history. Next to science, it is their worst enemy.


11 posted on 04/14/2013 4:55:02 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: chicagolady

If I moved, it sure as hell wouldn’t be to France - I’ve been fighting the good fight on Facebook lately.


12 posted on 04/14/2013 4:57:06 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

P.S. The last time I wrote to Clarence, I never got a response.


13 posted on 04/14/2013 5:00:11 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: cripplecreek; All
Barry Goldwater explains his vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964
14 posted on 04/14/2013 5:06:56 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cripplecreek

Correct, he knew what the long term consequences of it were.

The road to serfdom. State Dependency. Brainwashing. Misery.


15 posted on 04/14/2013 5:09:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Timber Rattler

thanks.


16 posted on 04/14/2013 5:14:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: cripplecreek
Goldwater was absolutely correct to oppose that version of the civil rights act.

Absolutely correct yet, perception is everything. The Republicans were the mean, un-cool, responsible parents who said ....no. The Democrats were radicalized into the party that wanted to give everything away, a very easy sell. Once the academic world became detached from reality and abstract thought became no longer an exercise, but an explanation for the inequities of life, the die was cast. Even highly charged people will follow the path of least resistance.

We have been prosperous too long.
17 posted on 04/14/2013 5:16:33 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Texas Fossil

You no longer have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Its amazing how many FReepers will get their panties in a twist if you suggest that a store owner be allowed to refuse blacks, asians, whites or whatever but a truly free market is an antidote to racism.

If I were to go to some neighborhoods of Detroit, I would find myself unwelcome in some businesses but I’m sure there are just as many who would happily accept my business because my money is green.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 5:20:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Fight the Leftist Gun Grabbers.
Support Free Republic.

19 posted on 04/14/2013 5:25:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Timber Rattler

Thanks but ... really ... does it matter WHY Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act? No one is going to persuade me or hardly anyone that it is right that gas stations maintained separate restrooms for men, women and blacks and discriminated against them on buses and in restaurants. It was disgusting how blacks were treated. I saw it and lived through it. Yes, Goldwater could argue that the bill was flawed and Goldwater himself supported other civil rights legislation. But right now .. it doesn’t really matter anymore because no one is going to stand up and fight against that bill nor should they.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 5:27:26 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: cripplecreek
Freedom is the solution, not reverse discrimination.

“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission”

21 posted on 04/14/2013 5:42:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Freedom is the solution, not reverse discrimination.

Is someone doesn't want my business, I'll wish them a good day and go find someone who does. Rather than one business forced to cater to all, there should be businesses who cater to whoever they wish.

Here in Michigan, rather than opening non smoking bars, non smokers fought to force all bar owners to ban smoking in their private establishments.
22 posted on 04/14/2013 5:51:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Bratch

Paul has said he would have debated parts of it and voted for the final bill.


23 posted on 04/14/2013 6:07:04 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: plain talk

24 posted on 04/14/2013 6:09:49 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: RedMDer
PREFECT ©

25 posted on 04/14/2013 7:00:35 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, it is nuts.

ComDem Crazy = Nuts


26 posted on 04/14/2013 7:03:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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27 posted on 04/14/2013 8:18:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Blacks need to take the test-—believe me, they will FAIL:

http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest


28 posted on 04/14/2013 8:36:46 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Chi-townChief
”These Negroes, they‘re getting pretty uppity these days and that‘s a problem for us since they‘ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we‘ve got to do something about this, we‘ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” ~Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)

"President Lyndon Baines Johnson, And is “Great Society” to help the Negro… was recorded on a White House taped (and saved) conversation claiming, “I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.”
29 posted on 04/14/2013 10:58:17 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama - Fredo smart)
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To: Chi-townChief

Republicans need to tell Black audiences how damn stupid they are for voting for their own destruction, might as well.


30 posted on 04/15/2013 12:14:01 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: cripplecreek
Goldwater is treated as a racist but he was a founding member of the Arizona NAACP and supported a very limited version of affirmative action in the public sector.

And, as commander of the Arizona Air National Guard, he requested the honor of integrating the first military combat unit.

His wish was granted and a successful integration followed -- in 1947, I believe it was.

31 posted on 04/15/2013 1:21:25 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: onyx

Thank you :)


32 posted on 04/15/2013 3:08:44 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Chi-townChief
Lyndon B. Johnson's 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Sheesh, I can't get past the first paragraph without flushing a turkey.

IIRC, that act was only Johnson's after he saw the train going past him. He didn't write it, he didn't want it, but signed on after it was clear it would pass (with Republican support) anyway.

33 posted on 04/15/2013 8:37:28 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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