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Reid short of votes on gun control
politico ^ | 4/15/2013 | JOHN BRESNAHAN and JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 04/15/2013 7:20:02 PM PDT by tobyhill

The White House and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid are shy of the 60 votes they need to move the bipartisan compromise bill on background checks for gun sales.

Vice President Joe Biden has been personally calling senators to urge them to support the measure, Democratic aides say.

Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) began a whip count on Monday, Democratic aides said, and Biden has been pressuring his fellow Democrats to fall in line. Biden’s office did not return an email seeking comment.

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) are co-sponsoring the proposal that would expand background checks for commercial gun purchases — including those at gun shows and online — opening a pathway for the biggest change in U.S. gun laws in nearly two decades.

A cloture vote on the Manchin-Toomey could come by Thursday, Democrats said.

Toomey on Monday afternoon acknowledged they don’t yet have the votes.

“I’m cautiously optimistic. We’re not there at the moment but were working on it,” Toomey said.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Nevada; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dickdurbin; guncontrol; harryreid; illinois; joebiden; joemanchin; nevada; pattoomey; pennsylvania; secondamendment; westvirginia
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1 posted on 04/15/2013 7:20:02 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Is this before or after the blackmail and bribery?


2 posted on 04/15/2013 7:20:40 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: tobyhill

Barry’s Chicago boys will make them an offer they can’t refuse.


3 posted on 04/15/2013 7:21:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: tobyhill

4 posted on 04/15/2013 7:22:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: tobyhill

A Republican Senate would be a wonderful thing, keep pushing, keep pushing!


5 posted on 04/15/2013 7:24:17 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: tobyhill

Will Lautenberg be able to Torchelli his way back to DC to vote and save the day?


6 posted on 04/15/2013 7:24:29 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: tobyhill
"Reid short of votes on gun control"

He's short on other things as well.

7 posted on 04/15/2013 7:24:54 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Based on my calculations the Rats are 5 short. GOP got 4 Rats on their side and the Rats got 3 RINOs.
8 posted on 04/15/2013 7:26:21 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Don’t believe this for a second, that they don’t have the votes.

Keep the pressure on all the Senators—no more bills restricting the Second Amendment!


9 posted on 04/15/2013 7:26:27 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: C210N
Dramatic scene in the Senate:

Lautenberg returns to vote on the Gun Control Bill. His name is called and he opens his mouth to answer, and falls over dead. The Democrats near him swear he said "aye," and the Republicans said he didn't say anything. A huge political fight ensues.

10 posted on 04/15/2013 7:27:18 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Kansas58

I can tell you Mark Prior from AR know if he supports this he is history. I have emailed him on this issue. He is typical democrat deceitful manipulator but he also wants the Senate seat. It s that close here in AR.


11 posted on 04/15/2013 7:28:08 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: tobyhill

TREASON

12 posted on 04/15/2013 7:29:44 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tobyhill

I wonder if my beloved US Senator Grahamnesty is in favor of this? I assume Tim Scott (DeMint’s replacement/appointment) is not.


13 posted on 04/15/2013 7:31:33 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: Mr Fuji

Well, the article says Linda is voting “no”. How about that?


14 posted on 04/15/2013 7:33:41 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: Mr Fuji

graham is a “nay”


15 posted on 04/15/2013 7:35:04 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: tobyhill

“I’m cautiously optimistic. We’re not there at the moment but were working on it,” Toomey said.

I’m cautiously optimistic that Toomey will choke and go into convulsions during dinner.


16 posted on 04/15/2013 7:36:38 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Gator113

No such luck.

Benedict Arnold toomey/

Two faced traitor.


17 posted on 04/15/2013 7:38:38 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Gator113

I’m guessing that as a result of today’s events the gun grabbers have lost a little more ground.


18 posted on 04/15/2013 7:39:57 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: tobyhill

Boston vividly demonstrates the wisdom of our American founders in providing that we have the unfettered right to arms to defend ourselves. There is no perfect answer but, as many sheriffs across USA recently told us, the govt simply cannot defend us all well. Response times vary but can be an hour or more in rural areas and in big cities (due to traffic, etc). Unconstitutional abridgments of our right to arms must be ended asap, and not “strengthened” or expanded.


19 posted on 04/15/2013 7:40:58 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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Its so comforting to know that Reid and these other assholes are so concerned about our safety that they to disarm us. What’s a few dead Americans killed because of lax immigration policies anyway? Yeah, people died on Boston. So what? The Senate has better things to worry about.


20 posted on 04/15/2013 7:45:35 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: tobyhill

Sammy “The Bull” Gravano on gun control:
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/features/1999/09/The-Reluctant-Don


Gun control? It’s the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I’m a bad guy, I’m always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You pull the trigger with a lock on, and I’ll pull the trigger. We’ll see who wins.


21 posted on 04/15/2013 7:46:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: C210N

“Will Lautenberg be able to Torchelli his way back to DC to vote and save the day?”

More likely that loutenberg will be wheeled in and those closest to him will start choking and gagging from the stench of the Wheeling Dead... Perhaps he will rise up and bite lizzie warren on the face. Now THAT would be something!


22 posted on 04/15/2013 7:46:59 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: 43north
More likely that loutenberg will be wheeled in and those closest to him will start choking and gagging from the stench of the Wheeling Dead... Perhaps he will rise up and bite lizzie warren on the face. Now THAT would be something!

Maybe they'll hire a ventriloquist. Getting the stiff's lips to move would be quite a feat, though.

23 posted on 04/15/2013 7:51:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: tobyhill

24 posted on 04/15/2013 7:55:23 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Zhang Fei

He won’t have any lips - just teeth...


25 posted on 04/15/2013 7:57:05 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks tobyhill.


26 posted on 04/15/2013 7:59:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 43north
He won’t have any lips - just teeth...

Maybe they'll dig up the Crypt Keeper from Tales from the Crypt and say it's Lautenberg.

27 posted on 04/15/2013 8:01:07 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Kansas58
Why, when these "saviors" keep playing the reach around game with the enemy.

BTW, isn`t that what they call it, reaching around the aisle?

28 posted on 04/15/2013 8:03:09 PM PDT by nomad
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To: gov_bean_ counter

If the attacks were from a home grown group, you will see the bill pass with all the gun grabbers dreams.

If it was a Saudi, it will be back page news in a month, and won’t change anything on the voting one way or another.


29 posted on 04/15/2013 8:03:48 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tobyhill

Coming from Politico, this is good news.


30 posted on 04/15/2013 8:05:17 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, they want to make it harder for me to obtain a gun legally, and have TSA agents groping wheel-chair-bound grandmothers and four-year-old girls. Meantime, an illegal immigrant (read: Saudi-national who overstayed his student visa) just blew hell out of Boston. They — and not the Second Amendment — are going to keep me safe how????


31 posted on 04/15/2013 8:08:20 PM PDT by kevao (.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That is what I have been hoping.


32 posted on 04/15/2013 8:08:46 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: tobyhill

And after they get done it has to go to the house where it will fail instantly.


33 posted on 04/15/2013 8:12:51 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: tobyhill

They need more time to get the sufficient amount of goat pics.


34 posted on 04/15/2013 8:13:02 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: tobyhill; Perdogg; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; ...
RE :”The White House and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid are shy of the 60 votes they need to move the bipartisan compromise bill on background checks for gun sales. Vice President Joe Biden has been personally calling senators to urge them to support the measure, Democratic aides say. Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) began a whip count on Monday, Democratic aides said, and Biden has been pressuring his fellow Democrats to fall in line”

In spite of some (false) optimism over last week's start debate vote this does not appear to be going well for Dems.

Did Obama blame the bombing on the sequester or gun check loopholes yet?

35 posted on 04/15/2013 8:15:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Is this before or after the blackmail and bribery?

Just like Obamacare required the Corn-husker Kickback, the Louisiana purchase, and a promise of a judgeship, Obozo will get his bill - you can take that to the bank.

THEN try to imagine what the legislative battleground will look like starting Jan 2015 is Piglosi is Speaker and Reid is still majority leader.......OH GOD HELP US.
36 posted on 04/15/2013 8:22:22 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: tobyhill

Thanks be to God. I really don’t want the Feds getting more power over legal gun ownership. It will be a miserable witch hunt. Let them hunt down the ones who have guns illegaly.


37 posted on 04/15/2013 8:44:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Enterprise
Its so comforting to know that Reid and these other assholes are so concerned about our safety that they to disarm us.

You cannot protect innocent people by disarming innocent people.

39 posted on 04/15/2013 10:47:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: C210N

“Will Lautenberg be able to Torchelli his way back to DC to vote and save the day?”

If he tries, I am praying that he’s hit by a drunk illegal alien driver!


40 posted on 04/15/2013 11:00:33 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Enterprise

“Yeah, people died on Boston. So what? “

On Fox tonight (yeah, I broke my vow not to watch them after the November election), Pantywaist Shep was saying how prophetic it was that this happened in Boston, the Cradle of our Liberty (or words to that effect). My guess is that the Founding Fathers wouldn’t stop to take a dump in Boston today. Boston, good old Moscow on the Charles!


41 posted on 04/15/2013 11:05:00 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: tobyhill

Don’t believe it....keep up the blow-torch and cork-screw tactics to any and all senators.....I’ve e-mailed noth of mine.....Boxer and Feinstein...with probably 100% no effect, but I want them to know we’re out there and oppose their anti 2nd Amend. antics......


42 posted on 04/16/2013 12:10:25 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (A Strong Man Armed who guards his home, lives in peace.)
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To: Windflier
"You cannot protect innocent people by disarming innocent people."

It is something that the Democrats and some Republican turn coats continue to ignore.

43 posted on 04/16/2013 1:45:18 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: vette6387

The founding fathers would all be on the street corners handing out pamphlets excoriating the liberals in the strongest terms possible.


44 posted on 04/16/2013 1:46:41 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sickoflibs; tobyhill; Perdogg; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker
In spite of some (false) optimism over last week's start debate vote this does not appear to be going well for Dems.

yep theyre strugglin today, at least on the surface...

just beware though, after a few phone calls, and distribution of pics of certain drunk sinaters with with drunker young boys, we could get a sudden and decisive vote...

or even more beware, just how many votes can be had for a piece of $5 TRILLION ??? or just the *promise* of a piece...

mo-ham-head hussein obambam will eventually get there, by hook or crook...

45 posted on 04/16/2013 4:03:38 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; tobyhill; Perdogg; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”yep theyre strugglin today, at least on the surface..”

With this new much more pressing story in Boston those weeping CT parents flying around with Obama will not be able to get on camera for while.

That one Mom did the commercial breaking out in tears ‘Please dont let this happen again to your kids. Please act on common sense....’.

Now the cameras have moved up Boston. Joe and Mika sitting on the street in lawn chairs this morning.

Unless Obama can blame this on the sequester or lack on gun checks. Were the explosives bought at a gun show wo a background check?

Morning Joe has been warning for two months that the NEXT islamic terrorist attack with be with assault rifles with no BG checks bought at a gun show.

46 posted on 04/16/2013 4:39:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
Keep the pressure on the bastards! Do not let up!
47 posted on 04/16/2013 4:55:55 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I think those weeping CT mom's need to come visit you ON CAMERA showing you pictures of their now dead kids.

I wonder where they are now, not on camera.

You see the this :
Senators unveil bipartisan immigration bill ???

48 posted on 04/16/2013 5:03:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: tobyhill

“Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) “
Great job electing this baboso W.Va. ya foools


49 posted on 04/16/2013 5:36:04 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: tobyhill
If nobody has mentioned this before, (haven't gone through all the comments yet)

Toomey, Manchin Consider 'Change' to Troubled Gun Bill (to shore up support)

50 posted on 04/16/2013 6:31:02 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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