Skip to comments.Boston IED bomb devices with ball bearings are used by terrorists in Afghanistan
Posted on 04/16/2013 2:33:27 PM PDT by tellw
The two bombs that killed three people and injured at least 176 at the Boston Marathon on Monday were made from six-liter pressure cookers crammed with shards of metal, nails and ball bearings and stashed in black backpacks, police sources revealed today.
The cruelly-designed bombs have 'frequently' been used in Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan, according to a 2010 Homeland Security Department pamphlet - hinting at the origins of the bombers behind the worst terrorist atrocity in the U.S. since 9/11.
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Pakistani Tea Partiers!!! I knew it.
Must have been Right-Wing Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan people then.
Chris Matthews, Peter Bergen, Michael Moore go to hell.
Don’t jump to any conclusions. Just because it walks like a duck, has a bill and quacks like a duck, doesn’t mean it is a duck.
Pray for America to Wake Up
This is breakthru data because most other groups stuff their bombs with nerf balls and noodles.
Over the dead bodies of 5000 Americans,
the undocumented BenGhazi Hussein Obama
made “peace” with his people.
As a result, there are only the pieces
of these 140 Americans left.
The MSM will now do their role: PR Reps for Corruption.
Whoever did this may have been trained in Afghanistan, but is not necessarily Afghan.
Plus, there is lots of information out there on how to make IEDs.
I wonder if these were typical WalMart cookers or if they were imported?
American MSM is going to hold off on reporting this because they can’t figure out how to keep up the “TEA Party is behind this” narrative at the same time that they’re reporting that this type of bomb is used in Afghanistan.
Looks like the work of an motivated, diligent but unskilled amateur based on al Qaeda cookbooks. A pro can simply drive up to any skyscraper in a McVeigh-style U-Haul with fuel-oil explosives, park, detonate the bomb with a cell phone call and kill hundreds, if not thousands, depending on the amount of destruction wreaked on the building.
I don’t get how you can profile based on the use of ball bearings.
It’s the same premise as Claymore mines. If you want to cause large amounts of maiming besides the blast, you add things that will turn into shrapnel.
All it proves is somebody is really sick and wanted to kill and incapacitate as many people as possible.
We can’t put too much into the use of shrapnel. Form follows function, so any man-portable bomb intended to cause mass casualties is going to have shrapnel.
The pressure cooker angle is more interesting. That is getting into the tradecraft, and it isn’t something that I think the average basement mad bomber would reach for first as a vessel. Selection of firing train components, initiating mechanism, etc., all tend to form a sort of ‘signature’ of a bomber. Once they find a formula that works for them, they tend to stick with it, making incremental, evolutionary changes to the design.
OTOH this knowledge is passed on, nowadays through web pages and forums that almost anybody may have access to and so elements of the design could be copied by people far removed geographically and ideologically from the original bomb builder. I have no doubt that Timothy McVeigh’s design was inspired by, copied from or directly taught to him by middle eastern devices. The tamping to direct the blast, etc. was an indicator for me.
Let us not forget the trips that his alleged co-conspirator Terry Nichols took to the Philippines. It may not have been (just) for sexual tourism. He may have made contact with JI types who taught him the ropes. I don’t know that angle was ever explored in the investigation because it ran counter to the Clinton administration’s meme that Rush Limbaugh was responsible.
I wonder what "President" Hussein learned, when he was in Pakistan as a young man.
If you were Achmed Fookin Mohamtard, would you fly to the U.S. luggin two pressure cookers from Achmed's (not the same Achmed) Kitchen Wares, or you just pick up a couple at WalMart?
How would that jerk Chris Matthews feel if every time a mass killing took place, the MSM mussed it must be a 'Catholic organization' behind it...
Or how would CNN feel if other "news' outlets speculated the monsters might be 'the gays' again? Every time - and every time wrong...
Conservatives in this country are afraid one of these times the killers will get away - and the MSM will be ready and willing to hurt us.
How does one get a pressure-cooker to explode? What was the explosive?
I assume the terrorist didn’t have a long electrical cord for it, with a pot-roast cooking on the sidewalk....
Ever notice that Usama's followers were silent when he was killed. Cuz....he was retired and useless!!! That fort was their idea of Senior Housing.
This is Obama’s doing, he squandered resources trying to attack his own political enemies instead of keeping his eye on the ball.
Indeed the last 2 near misses should have waken him up to this threat. Instead DHS still focuses its efforts on watching TEA paryers instead of the proven Islamic terrorist threat.
NPR is going all black knight ala monty python to blame a domestic group at the exclusion of terrorists.
the medium is the message.
if npr says it then it must be “it”.
In related news...
UM Coach: Bomb Sniffing Dogs, Spotters on Roofs Before Explosions
Gunpowder (black powder) or smokeless powder. Electrically fired, so there’s a battery and a short circuit/hot wire in there somewhere.
OBTW - Hello to the boys and gals at NSA. (Enough key words in that last post that there is probably a satellite over my office about now.)
And readily available to any individual who reads the instructions and has a Home Depot near by.........
You’re right - a successful terrorist attack where the bomber gets away will do as well for our news media as if the perp were a little old white male tea partier in an american flag sweatshirt sporting a GOP campaign button.
Well, tea partiers can tomatoes.
So if millions of folks headed down to their local Wally World and picked up their cheapest pressure cooker for less than $30, as well as a few ball bearings, the lib heads would explode.
P_resident Pressure Cooker would wet his pants.
I wonder if we could force Janet Napolitano into a nation wide buying frenzy trying to get control of all the pressure cookers.
Our country is lead by idiots, corrupt idiots.
Who really needs one of these high capacity pressure cookers anyway? /s
“..How would that jerk Chris Matthews feel if every time a mass killing took place, the MSM mussed it must be a ‘Catholic organization’ behind it... ..”
He’s Catholic in name only. He’s a liberal apparatchnik first, a Democrat second, and everything else a far distant third.
Pressure cooker hording to offset the lack of ammo on the shelves.
I suspect you’re 100% right NFHale...
How about which co-religionist friends he came to know and whether he has in the last four and a half years seen to their currency needs--indirectly, of course.
Gonna paint mine black and bolt a knife to it.
A pressure cooker bomb is just an odd-shaped pipe bomb. Any pipe bomb works by containing the blast from a low explosive (e.g. gunpowder) long enough to build up to the equivalent lethality of a high explosive (e.g. TNT).
>I dont get how you can profile based on the use of ball bearings.<
I agree, ball bearings come from rotating equipment and that is a rarity in Afghanistan. You just don’t use ball bearings unless they’re plentifull. Now, buckshot would be a different matter.
In WWII we sent B-17s just to demolish Hitler’s ballbearing manufacturing plants, that’s how important they are.
Even in the US, ballbearings are not easy to come by unless you visit a dump and go looking for them.
Once again the UK and Canadian press has better reporting than the US “media.”
From the amount and color of the smoke, and the orange flash, I'd wager strongly that the explosive was old-fashioned black powder, the nitrate, sulfur, charcoal mixture you can buy in up to 50 lb kegs from any good reloading store.
You don't need a blasting cap to detonate the stuff, a spark will do, and it has a faster burn rate than normal smokeless pistol and rifle powders. It deteriorates fairly quickly, (Short self life), and it's highly hygroscopic.
I'm guessing a simple electrical timer wired to nichrome wire as an initiator.
Shrapnel bombs had their start long before Afghanistan.
The Chicago ‘just a guy in the neighborhood’ liked them.
I’ve seen steel balls sold as slingshot ammo.Available at Walmart and other places.
It more than likely had a cell phone or timer on it.
I tried a little research on the subject and found that the Pressure is used to confine the explosion until pressure builds up , making the eplosion much more powerful.
It has little to do with the pressure cooker itself exploding and more to do with the mechanics of building up pressure.
If I was so whaked that I’d even consider bombing people, who knows where I might buy pressure cookers?
I have a neighbor who sends to India for some cookware because it’s like the stuff Mom used. His mom, not mine.
“How would that jerk Chris Matthews feel if every time a mass killing took place, the MSM mussed it must be a ‘Catholic organization’ behind it... “
I don’t think they care. They say what they do because they are actors in a play pushing an agenda. Truth and logic does not matter, as long as the agenda is moved, that some listeners believe in the liberal Official Reality.
Or have a computer that can access eBay
Burned in the open, gunpowder doesn't blast. It's a bit like a sparkler. Faster than a sparkler, but no "blast." The only way to make gunpowder, even smokeless powder, go "boom" is to contain it so pressure builds. Under the high pressure condition, it burns faaaaast! and goes boom.
Your explanation is generally right. Just a nitpick about low explosive "blast," and pointing out there is no blast at all, unless the low explosive is contained.
Yep. The cooker itself is ductile. It won’t break into very many pieces unless it is purposely “scored” to do so.
I read it wasn’t ballbearings - it was BBs. They are very easy to come by.
“The most seriously injured children had BBs and nails embedded in their bodies, said Dr. David P. Mooney — objects that were apparently packed into the explosive devices.”
Lots of details in article and quotes.
True - what’s your take on the posters who keep bringing up ‘McVeigh’ and OK city - while ignoring 9/11? It feels like some here are carrying liberal water...
“whats your take on the posters who keep bringing up McVeigh “
Probably just because it was a bombing.
Liberals are silent (probably ignorant) of the bomb Karl Armstrong touched off at Sterling Hall at UWisconsin, but he did his little masterpiece as a protest of Kent State and the Viet Nam war.
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