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(Slate:) Legalize Polygamy! (Need I say *barf alert*?)
Slate ^ | 4/15/2013 | Jillian Keenan

Posted on 04/16/2013 5:18:01 PM PDT by markomalley

Recently, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council reintroduced a tired refrain: Legalized gay marriage could lead to other legal forms of marriage disaster, such as polygamy. Rick Santorum, Bill O’Reilly, and other social conservatives have made similar claims. It’s hardly a new prediction—we’ve been hearing it for years. Gay marriage is a slippery slope! A gateway drug! If we legalize it, then what’s next? Legalized polygamy?

We can only hope.

Yes, really. While the Supreme Court and the rest of us are all focused on the human right of marriage equality, let’s not forget that the fight doesn’t end with same-sex marriage. We need to legalize polygamy, too. Legalized polygamy in the United States is the constitutional, feminist, and sex-positive choice. More importantly, it would actually help protect, empower, and strengthen women, children, and families.

For decades, the prevailing logic has been that polygamy hurts women and children. That makes sense, since in contemporary American practice that is often the case. In many Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints polygamous communities, for example, women and underage girls are forced into polygamous unions against their will.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: communism; feminism; groupmarriage; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; polyamory; polygamy; radicalleft; sexpositiveagenda; slate; smashmonogamy; smashthepatriarchy; socialism
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Well, here we go. We have a German group wanting to ensure Zoophilia remains legal there. And American left-wingers wanting to legalize polygamy.
1 posted on 04/16/2013 5:18:01 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I wonder how many men Barney Frank will marry?


2 posted on 04/16/2013 5:21:00 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: markomalley

Polygamy is already legal for those who can play the legalistic game and afford to pay off the extra wives and illegitimate kids.


3 posted on 04/16/2013 5:21:16 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: markomalley

Remember, they said it would “never come to this”.

Call it a fallacy all you like, but the slippery slope argument sure seems to hold up.


4 posted on 04/16/2013 5:22:28 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: markomalley; MeganC
Polygamy is already practiced by those who have 3 or 4 girlfriends have 11 kids and then are supported by Welfare.

5 posted on 04/16/2013 5:25:26 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Legalised polygamy?

At least 1/3 of the citizens of the State of Deseret are busily taking notes.


6 posted on 04/16/2013 5:27:05 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: markomalley

Would that be a limit of 4 wives for the Muslims.


7 posted on 04/16/2013 5:28:33 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley

I had a gay polygamist university professor tell me that polygamy was the next step 10 years ago. And they will have a lot of support from certain quarters on this.


8 posted on 04/16/2013 5:30:38 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: familyop; MeganC
Polygamy is already legal for those who can play the legalistic game and afford to pay off the extra wives and illegitimate kids.

Bingo, no stigma there, you can have as mistress as you want too and no one will bat an eyelash.


9 posted on 04/16/2013 5:31:45 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Shadow44
Once society abandons the traditional definition of marriage and redefines it to mean any two people who love each other and want to get "married," there isn't any logical reason to limit it to two people and prohibit polygamy and polyamory.

If you read the Supreme Court's decision overturning sodomy laws, you could switch homosexual relations and insert polyamorous relations and every argument reads the same. Scalia said this would lead to a slippery slope and he was right.

10 posted on 04/16/2013 5:33:00 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: markomalley

Actually, didn’t Utah have to make it illegal before they were allowed to join the Union. So my point is if they had gay marriage back in the 1800s in a particular territory, the USA probably would have forced them to make it illegal. So now that the USA is allowing gay marriage, why can’t Utah bring back polygamy? I understood that premise for forcing them to ban polygamy was so they would have a similar marriage laws as the rest of the states at the time. Now that premise has been thrown out the window and the country has adopted perverted views about marriage. I really don’t carefor polygamy, but I find it more normal than gay marriage, not it is much better.


11 posted on 04/16/2013 5:33:40 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: markomalley

It was only a matter of time.


12 posted on 04/16/2013 5:36:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Sacajaweau

The Arabs (who have great experience in this subject) claim that the ideal number of wives is 3 ,,, two of them will always side against the third and with you ... I would think this is a good arrangement as in the animal kingdom it is usual for males to be underrepresented and to have multiple partners... I would think that increasing the value of the male partner this way would lead to a more equal partnership.

I am all for it as long as it is restricted to one sex being a single with the other sex being multiple ,, no “multi-M/multi-F” arrangements.


13 posted on 04/16/2013 5:36:56 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: castlegreyskull

Actually, didn’t Utah have to make it illegal before they were allowed to join the Union.
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14 posted on 04/16/2013 5:41:19 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Shadow44
Remember, they said it would “never come to this”.

It always HAD to "come to this". You cannot stop it. Once you re-define "marriage", then you make it possible to keep re-defining it. I have said on this site many times; if there is nothing special about marriage being between one man and one woman, what is so special about the number two? How does one legally stop polygamy once same-sex marriage is found to be okay?

15 posted on 04/16/2013 5:43:05 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Shadow44

It is alive and well in the United States. Heck they have a reality show called Sister Wives and has been on about 4 years. Plus there are tons of polygamy marriages in the West.


16 posted on 04/16/2013 5:43:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: markomalley

“And so it begins!” Ambassador Kosh


17 posted on 04/16/2013 5:46:13 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: markomalley
And here we go. The same arguments being used for gay marriage on top of that:

The definition of marriage is plastic. Just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less “correct” than marriage among three (or four, or six) consenting adults.

Of course it's "plastic" to a liberal who believes in moral subjectivity. If you redefine it or change its meaning once, what is stopping you from doing it again? Nothing. If marriage can mean anything, it ends up meaning nothing.

Though polygamists are a minority—a tiny minority, in fact—freedom has no value unless it extends to even the smallest and most marginalized groups among us. So let’s fight for marriage equality until it extends to every same-sex couple in the United States—and then let’s keep fighting. We’re not done yet.

Of course you aren't done yet. You aren't done until you destroy all the meaning of family and the traditional Judeo-Christian values that built this country.

18 posted on 04/16/2013 5:52:00 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: markomalley

Isn’t it disturbing that 11,000 braindead morons “liked” this? Ironically, as of my post, 666 people have tweeted it.


19 posted on 04/16/2013 5:55:03 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: markomalley

Thank God they said this now. Now all we need to do is publicize it like crazy. We can make this into a noose for gay marriage advocates.


20 posted on 04/16/2013 6:25:15 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: markomalley

21 posted on 04/16/2013 6:25:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Neidermeyer
Don't know how you can stop even multi-M/multi-F arrangements once the genie is out of the bottle. Polygamy is far closer to normal than gay marriage and has been used by societies throughout history to deal with a surplus of females. Almost every warring Native American tribe practiced polygamy. The alternatives such female abandonment, femaile infanticide, etc. were far, far worse.

I don't think the lunkheads promoting gay marriage failed to realize this. In fact, I think it was their objective.

22 posted on 04/16/2013 6:57:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: markomalley; wagglebee; GeronL

Group marriage is next after polygamy. Why only multiple wives? Communal living.


23 posted on 04/16/2013 7:54:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: markomalley

Polygamy is self punishing.


24 posted on 04/16/2013 8:48:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I agree if by polygamy they mean a man with multiple wives. A woman with multiple men fathering children is just an unwed mother.

Actually as a Christian I think you can make a better case for polygamy than I can divorce. Make marriage until death do you part. If a man can have more than one wife he doesn’t need to divorce. I guarantee you, as in China until 1926 when they outlawed polygamy that first wife could make the second wives’ life a living Hell and probably would.

A step farther - if you have a child with a woman who is not married she is your wife and has claim on then man’s resources.

If a man lives with a woman for more than 90 days or if they have a joint lease on a domicile or bank account, they are married. I laugh at the couples I sometimes meet that have three children together and say “Oh we’re not married”

The problem is that unlike the ancient world where men died young the population is not 60% women and 40% men. So the value of women for wives would rise exponentially because no man wants to marry a sl*t or retired wh*re.

I’d rather see a man be able to have multiple wives that he SUPPORTS than divorce, abandon remarry and then repeat but that is just me

I think this might actually backfire on the progressives


25 posted on 04/16/2013 10:35:22 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao

I forgot

In the above scenario adultery would also become a criminal offense. If a man can have more than one wife he has no need to play the field and if he can get another wife the one he has should be motivated to perform.

Yes that is crude and venal but that’s life


26 posted on 04/16/2013 10:40:15 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: markomalley

They will not rest until you can have sex with your own minor kids.


27 posted on 04/16/2013 10:57:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: markomalley

Hey, I want to marry my wild boar.

Yes, she’s a little overweight, but she’s a hard charger in the sack.

Who has any right to tell me, “No”?


28 posted on 04/17/2013 12:11:48 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Jack Hammer
Hey, I want to marry my wild boar.

In that case, you want to probably join this group.

29 posted on 04/17/2013 1:06:18 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: reaganaut

America: 2028

- Gay marriage is accepted in thirty-two states.
- People have started to notice 60-year old women moving to Mississippi and using the state laws to marry 15-year old ladies.
- California has started threesome marriages.
- At least two states recognize polygamy.
- A web site has developed that allows ten year old kids to digitally marry other ten year old kids...which all turns legal at age eighteen.
- A TV show has developed, and is about a woman who marries a male ghost.
- A San Francisco city law mandates that no church can conduct a wedding for anyone, unless it’s totally open for all types of marriages.


30 posted on 04/17/2013 3:47:15 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Neidermeyer
I am all for it as long as it is restricted to one sex being a single with the other sex being multiple

Who are you to impose your outdated "morality" on me, huh?

Yes, it's sarcasm

31 posted on 04/17/2013 5:14:33 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: markomalley

To her credit, Miss Keenan is being more intellectually honest than many of her fellow leftists about this issue. Of course when one of the fundamental essentials of marriage(one man to one woman) is eliminated, then another fundamental essential(number of persons involved) is the next logical step. The ultimate goal in all this madness is to destroy the special status of the natural family and replace it with the state.


32 posted on 04/17/2013 5:21:36 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: pepsionice

That’s probably America 2018.


33 posted on 04/17/2013 5:23:40 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: District13

You may be needed in this thread soon...


34 posted on 04/17/2013 6:40:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: markomalley

I have much less against polygamy than I do against Gay marriage.

And no... I’m not a Mormon, nor am I a Muslim.


35 posted on 04/17/2013 6:42:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Who are you to impose your outdated "morality" on me, huh?

And...

Who are they to impose their newly formed "morality" on me?

36 posted on 04/17/2013 6:46:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: markomalley

“..Hey, I want to marry my wild boar.
In that case, you want to probably join this group.
..”

Yep, they do that in Europe, and we want to emulate them??!!!


37 posted on 04/17/2013 6:58:42 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: pepsionice

Which two states recognize Polygamy? I thought it was illegal everywhere in the US.


38 posted on 04/17/2013 7:17:57 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: pepsionice
Don't forget:

- Jerry Sandusky is granted an early release from prison and hailed for helping those little boys discover their true sexual identity. He goes on a celebrity tour stating with a television appearance on The View.

39 posted on 04/17/2013 7:24:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Fai Mao
Good observations. I take it by your post and screen name that you are Chinese. I would suppose that polygamy in China originated for many of the same reasons which it did among the warring Plains and Rocky Mountain tribes: a surplus of women who needed to be cared for.

It had its definite downsides among the tribes and not just the first wife making life a living hell for second wives and beyond. There were cases where rival wives actually killed each other.

Typically, the maximum penalty which could be imposed for such a murder was banishment from the tribe. More often the murderess got off far more lightly by being beaten, having her hair shorn and being forced to sleep outside the teepee for the couple of months or so it required for her hair to grow back.

But more often, they adapted and the Alpha wife, so to speak, enjoyed the help with the household chores far more than she resented sharing her husband. There were also efficiencies from division of labor-- one woman might excel in child care, another in making clothes, a third in food preparation, etc. A man who could organize his wives in such manner might become quite wealthy by tribal standards.

40 posted on 04/17/2013 7:44:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: familyop

Well said!


41 posted on 04/17/2013 8:33:13 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: pepsionice

2028? Not even close, it will be before 2020 easy.

Add to that that the LDS church will have a ‘revelation’ allowing polygamy again as soon as it is legal.


42 posted on 04/17/2013 9:45:37 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: markomalley; KC_Lion

The American left doesn’t want to legalize polygamy. They oppose it because it’s a bastion of all of the things they don’t like.

Aside from the pagan polygamists, most polygamists adhere to religious faith, they tend to be homeschoolers, they tend to be politically conservative (and Republican!), they tend to avoid the use of credit, they don’t use welfare in order to avoid attention from child protection activists, they tend to be patriarchal and not at all feminist, and they also tend to be self-sufficent along the lines of preppers.

Really, aside from the multiple wives, polygamists are among the most traditional Americans left in this country and they are hated and loathed by the left.


43 posted on 04/17/2013 9:48:05 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: Fai Mao; greyfoxx39; Colofornian

I’d rather see a man be able to have multiple wives that he SUPPORTS than divorce, abandon remarry and then repeat but that is just me

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As polygamy currently stands, it is a lie that the men support their wives. The amount of welfare abuse is highest in the polygamist communities and they are proud of it.

And, I am guessing you have never actually KNOWN an IRL polygmaist. I have as well as many who have escaped it (and not all were ‘child brides’ another myth). In short you are a ignorant pig.


44 posted on 04/17/2013 9:48:47 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: MeganC

most polygamists adhere to religious faith, they tend to be homeschoolers, they tend to be politically conservative (and Republican!), they tend to avoid the use of credit, they don’t use welfare in order to avoid attention from child protection activists,

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How mamny polygamists do you know IRL???

You are quite wrong. Many don’t homeshchool. They tend to be anarchists and dems not pubs if they vote at all (because the GOP was founded to abolish polygamy), they proudly abuse the welfare system and credit cards, high rate of bankruptcy. There are other ways to avoid CPS.

BTW, I work in ministry to rescue people from polygamy and my husband does probono work for women who want to leave so I know what I am talking about.


45 posted on 04/17/2013 9:55:58 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: taxcontrol
Uh...

Ya missed the first line: America: 2028

46 posted on 04/17/2013 9:56:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman
I take it by your post and screen name that you are Chinese.

Therefore; ELSIE is a girl cow.

47 posted on 04/17/2013 9:56:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
I’d rather see a man be able to have multiple wives that he SUPPORTS than divorce, abandon remarry and then repeat but that is just me

I don't really care TOO much what other men do; as long as I don't have to support 'em!

48 posted on 04/17/2013 9:58:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: reaganaut
无知的猪 ???
49 posted on 04/17/2013 10:00:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Practicing your Kanji?


50 posted on 04/17/2013 10:06:40 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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