Skip to comments.Marco Rubio, Steve King Square Off On Whether Boston Bombs Should Refocus Immigration Debate
Posted on 04/16/2013 8:32:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
Rep. Steve King, one of the most vocal proponents in Congress for strict immigration enforcement, called on his colleagues to slow down on moving ahead with plans to overhaul the system in the aftermath of the Boston bombing.
In an interview with The National Review, a conservative publication, King, a Republican from Iowa, said the reports that investigators were talking to a Saudi college student should prompt lawmakers to put a greater national security focus on immigration reform.
The effort by King, as well as some conservative groups, to tie the bombing to immigration drew a rebuke by his fellow Republican, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, who is playing a key role in putting together a reform measure.
Rubio is part of a bipartisan group in the U.S. Senate that had been set to hold a press conference Tuesday morning to unveil a sweeping immigration reform bill. The unveiling has been pushed back to Wednesday because of the explosions during the Boston Marathon that killed three and injured nearly 180. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., met with President Obama on Tuesday afternoon to discuss the bill.
Some of the speculation that has come out is that yes, it was a foreign national and, speculating here, that it was potentially a person on a student visa, King said. If thats the case, then we need to take a look at the big picture.
We need to be ever vigilant, said King, who was vice chairman of the House Subcommittee on Immigration. We need to go far deeper into our border crossings. . . . We need to take a look at the visa-waiver program and wonder what were doing. If we cant background-check people that are coming from Saudi Arabia, how do we think
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Love Steve King...had a nice long chat with him at CPAC - but don’t like conflating the issues of (mostly Hispanic) illegal immigration and (likely Middle Eastern) terrorism.
Marco Rubio is interested in giving benefits to aliens who are in our country illegally.
He’s not into defending Americans, he’s all about defending La Raza.
To hell with Marco Rubio and the rest of the Treason Lobby.
No Rubio, you are not a part of a “bi-partisan group.” You are part of a “GANG” who is trying to shove this anti-American legislation down our throats.
We won’t forget.
Not so fast. OTMs outnumbering Mexicans on the border now. There is a nexus. Cartels collaborating with terrorists, sex-slave trade. It does tie in....
It appears that they are exempting businesses with less than 500 employees from ever requiring the use of E-Verify while phasing in larger companies use of E-Verify over years instead of months.
This is a particularly disgusting piece because the politicians can claim they are requiring E-Verify but the reality is most illegal aliens are in small companies so this amounts to ZERO ENFORCEMENT.
From an article by Roy Beck, NumbersUSA (who debated with Rubio on Kudlow, tonight)...
During the three months that the Gang of Eight was meeting with every special interest in town, it refused to meet with representatives of the law enforcement who know how current immigration laws are actually handled.
It's a little hard to trust Sen. Rubio's assurance to the Tea Party groups today that "I will not relent from the ongoing fight to ensure the American people's voices are heard before any votes are cast . . . "
We are not aware that he and the Gang listened to any American voices during the drafting process, other than those desiring more immigration and foreign labor.
We need more workers skilled and unskilled to pay taxes so we can join the gravy train. let’m take over. what could go wrong?
I don’t disagree with that in a sense...but there have to be political battles won first, and I think this muddies those up.
I thought that both of them were “Tea Party” Republicans? [Snort]
You’re right about the difference, but anything that muddies up and slows down (stops) the immigration bill is just fine with me.
well yes, I’m afraid it will muddy King’s message, not the bill.
The Gang Of Eight knows their only hope is to pass the bill before people become aware of the actual content.
Hey - it worked for Obamacare, right?
Conflating? The liberals have created an artificial separation of undocumented immigrants, illegal invaders and terrorists, pretending that one group has nothing to do with another even though they are all crossing our borders. With everything including drug cartels, Muslims and Red Chinese coming across the southern border and over stayed visas everywhere else, we need to do something about securing the safety of our people even if sovereignty haters don’t understand or don’t care to believe there really is a problem.
Steve King is absolutely correct. This is a national defense issue. Until we recognize that, every enemy we have can walk across the border and this ridiculous immigration bill does nothing to secure our safety while doing everything to make it easier for the invaders to remain here and murder our people.
Our national security begins at the border.
It is perfectly all right to merge Illegal Alien Amnesty with Islamic Terrorism...as both are a by-product of failing to secure our borders and enforce our laws
And, with many Illegal Aliens being OTM (Other Than Mexicans) entering illegally via Mexico....how we deal with Illegal Aliens will have an effect on how we deal with Islamic Terrorism
Also....can one really have faith in someone handling Islamic Terrorism when they do not have the spine or backbone to deport Illegal Aliens?
The hits just keep coming.
Really? Why?! What is wrong with these guys.
We are ruled by complete and utter selfish morons!
Dang Rubio, you could have been a star ~
I thought Paul Ryan was smart.
Oops on that one.
AMNESTY TWO QUESTIONS NEVER BROUGHT UP
(1)When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?
This is a question: Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? This has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber....ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY IT HASN’T
(2) What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ? While we encourage wholesale abortion as the Godless Demo-Coms socialists encourage population control. Then complain the US is not reproducing enough to replace its aging supply of workers to keep their welfare ponzie schemes supplied with tax money to keep the system working.
Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.
Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.
Americans cant own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash theyll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the fresh. Thats just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea lets give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .
You made some good points, but this is not one of them. Straw argument, false choice, flawed analogy....and sheesh, I hope you're wrong...because there is never going to be any kind of mass deportation that you are fantasizing about, but there might be progrss on Islamic terrorism.
Yeah the little government stooge/prick Ryan was so smart he did not even manage to deliver his home state to that great Conservative Candidate and 2 time loser Mittens! Hell PR was so smart he was trashed on TeeVee by that great debater/statesman Joe Biden! Forget the RNC/GOP they have their eyes on a new shiny malleable citizen.
It’s not that the American people “won’t forget”; they are so malinformed that they “never knew”.
Ryan in the “DEBATE” seemed too afraid to step out on principles though I at first thought he had prevailed. He followed the path of his mentor, Jack French Kemp, “debating” “my freind Al Gore.” Ryan was told by Romney not to embarrass the aging Biden; it would look “disrespectful”.
This is not Rep. Ryans first time in Chicago but it is his first time at a pro-immigrant event in our pro-immigrant city. Lets show Rep. Ryan an influential voice among House Republicans the enthusiasm and strength of Chicagos pro-immigrant community, and in so doing impress upon him that by standing with immigrants hes standing on the right side of history.
“From an article by Roy Beck, NumbersUSA (who debated with Rubio on Kudlow, tonight)...”
Really, I’ll have to look that up, thanks!
Re; Rally with Paul Ryan and Luis Guierrez
Wow....they’re not even hiding it any more. Ryan is a long time disciple of ....wait for it....ready...???.....
About Paul Ryan.....
I KNOW it seems simplistic, but I’m telling you all that the same handful of people OWN all these politicians...Ryan, Rubio, Romney, all like mined, amnesty lovers GROOMED by LOBBYISTS...CESAR CONDA & GROVER Norquist, who serve the interests of the LEFT.
FYI...SEE...WHO IS CESAR CONDA?
And about Ryan/Conda
[snip]Creature of Washington
Professionally, Ryan is a creature of Washington insider politics.
He got his first taste of congressional politics as a college intern for U.S. Sen. Bob Kasten of Wisconsin.
The work was not glamorous, often sorting and delivering mail.
“He was as earnest, polite and enthusiastic,” said his friend and mentor, Cesar Conda, who eventually provided a crucial link between Romney and Ryan.
Conda brought Ryan back as an intern the next year.
“He would always pop his head in the door and ask questions about what Senator Kasten was doing,” Conda recalled. “I just gave him two books to read and said, ‘This will get you started.’”
The books were “The Way the World Works,” by Jude Wanniski, and “Wealth and Poverty” by George Gilder, which became the bible for Reagan-era economic policy.
Conda offered Ryan his first paid, full-time job working for Kasten after his graduation in 1992 from Miami University of Ohio, where Ryan double-majored in economics and political science.
PS...Conda was a policy advisor to Romney, too! We were set up LONG ago.
Somehow, we have to give the RNC a message! Please consider changing your voter registration to non affiliated.
FWIW, I've sent every single piece of RNC mail back with "Remove my name from your register. I am NO LONGER a Republican! Get your $$ from the DNC!"
“The question is: Who is this Conda tool NOT connected to?”
Well, he and Grover are connected to everyone in the GOP with any power. They run cpac and the ACU, and many other ‘conservative’ outfits.
Wow...an imported ‘latino’ and a muslim loving lobbyist in charge of our futures...ain’t it great???
In this article, from 2004, Conda is trying to convince you the Bush amnesty wasn’t amnesty either!
Some of us were talking yesterday that the term RINO has lost it's meaning. We thought 'Turd Blossom Republicans' might be more appropriate. Paul Ryan is a TURD BLOSSOM REPUBLICAN.
For those who dont know, Bush had a nickname for Karl Rove , turdblossom. Rove and Norquist really took Bush for a ride. They were at the root of everything he did wrong.
I say we hijack that name...turd-blossom Republican for the race baiting Condas, Roves, Norquists, Rubios, McCains of the world. I think it could catch on. Somehow we have to rid conservatism of these people who are identified by the media as being representative of conservatives. Turd Blossom Republicans. I like it.
Rubio: The illegal aliens who did this werent MY illegal aliens...
MY illegal aliens promised they wont commit any crimes until after AMNESTY...
So hurry up and give they AMNESTY...
Dont you know youre denying some poor deserving people from living their DREAM ???
Gosh do I need to go on 8 shows next Sunday too ???
Id rather be playing golf with my good ol pal, Barry...
I’m sick of all of ‘em...they’re ALL owned by the same $$/special interest groups/lobbyists.
Thanks, I don’t see the article posted, it should be! I can do it after I get back from the doctor. Catch you all later.
They "say" the bulk of border-crossers are Mexican----but we know Mexico is the staging area for all of the Third World freeloaders---that includes global terrorists bent on destroying America.
Terrorists from Mideast countries are entering the US from Mexico......
The Mexican border has become the staging area for (1) global terrorists (ark-skinned Mideasterners who pass for Mexicans), (2) the criminal latino uderworld, (3) Third World lowlifes, (4) drug cartels, (5) impoverished latinos hoping to win the "border lottery" in the US and the like. T
The word is out---"come to Mexico to infiltrate the US. It's open season to conduct your dirty deeds. And US politicans are looking the other way."
NY POST---Mexican cartels deep inside US - spreading into non-border states
CHICAGO (AP) Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the US border are dispatching some of their most trusted agents to live and work deep inside the United States an emboldened presence that experts believe is meant to tighten their grip on the world's most lucrative narcotics market and maximize profits. If left unchecked, authorities say, the cartels' move into the American interior could render the syndicates harder than ever to dislodge and pave the way for them to expand into other criminal enterprises such as prostitution, kidnapping-and-extortion rackets and money laundering.
Some cartels even have Mexican operatives fill out job applications before being dispatched to the US, Riley added. In Mexico, the cartels are known for a staggering number of killings more than 50,000, according to one tally. Beheadings are sometimes a signature. So far, cartels don't appear to be directly responsible for large numbers of slayings in the United States, though the Texas Department of Public Safety reported 22 killings and five kidnappings in Texas at the hands of Mexican cartels from 2010 through mid- 2011. Still, police worry that increased cartel activity could fuel heightened violence.--SNIP--
In Chicago, the police commander who oversees narcotics investigations, James O'Grady, said street-gang disputes over turf account for most of the city's uptick in murders last year, when slayings topped 500 for the first time since 2008. Riley's assessment is stark: He argues that the cartels should be seen as an underlying cause of Chicago's disturbingly high murder rate. "They are the puppeteers," he said. "Maybe the shooter didn't know and maybe the victim didn't know that. But if you follow it down the line, the cartels are ultimately responsible." (NY POST EXCERPT)
Viscious Mexican gangs and drug cartels are said to operate freely across the border in Austin---the Texas state capital---right under the noses of the pols. Read on.
EDITED Zeta hit man details killings on both sides of border mySA.com | January 24, 2012 | Jason Buch / FR Posted by SwinneySwitch
LAREDO, TEXAS A hit man for the Zetas Mexican drug cartel calmly related to jurors in a drug conspiracy trial---to his role as a hired killer.
In US District Court. Rosalio Reta pointed to Gerardo Castillo Chavez, 25, and identified him as a fellow Zeta. Reta, 22, told jurors that he had been in a team of hit men headed by Gabriel Cardona, an admitted Zeta, who has pleaded guilty to five murders that occurred in Texas 2005-06.
Reta said he was the triggerman in the murder of Moises Garcia, a Mexican Mafia prison gang member, in Dec 2005.
Reta, a U.S. citizen, received national media attention after the teenager was deported from Mexico in 2006 at age 17. He's known for his distinctive facial tattoos and boasts that he became a killer when he was 13 years old.
Prosecutors say Castillo Chavez was also a sicario, or hit man, in a crew that worked with Cardona's group, gunning down two people at a busy Laredo, Texas intersection in April 2006.
He faces up to life in prison if convicted on firearms and racketeering charges and wide-ranging drug conspiracy charges; prosecutors presented evidence of a decade's worth of Zeta operations in Texas.
Reta said that he fled to Mexico after two murders in Texas, for which he's now serving 70 years in prison, and worked with Castillo Chavez. In May 2006, Reta testified, a team of killers was dispatched to El Punto Vivo, a nightclub in a suburb of Monterrey, Mexico.
Hitmen Chema and Chavezs went into the bar, Reta said. They shot, they threw some grenades and they killed four people.
Afterward, the hit squad went to a convenience store for snacks and drinks. Prosecutors played security video showing Reta and three others making purchases.
Jurors also heard Laredo police detective Robert Garcia testify that he linked the sicarios using phone records.
The big break came when an insider---a DEA informant---was tasked by the Zetas with renting a safe house for Cardona's crew. Garcia said he worked with the feds to thwart the Zetas' attempted hits and to gather evidence.
Defense attorneys questioned Reta as to why someone who had shown great care to hideout after killings in the U.S. would so brazenly hang out at a convenience store, even microwave popcorn, after committing a high-profile killing in Mexico.
In Mexico, the cartels run everything, Reta replied. So it doesn't matter if you get caught on video. We are the law over there.
That's right, an illegal immigrant activist shilling for Democrats.....Veliz spoke of the "opportunities" accorded her as an illegal, opportunities which could of been extended to actual U.S. citizens, but she might just have been prevaricating about her supposed heart-warming story.
According to CNSNews.com: ... In her speech, Veliz claimed to be "from San Antonio, Texas, saying that she was "like so many Americans." "My name is Benita Veliz and I'm from San Antonio, Texas. Like so many Americans, of all races and backgrounds, I was brought here as a child," Veliz said. "I've been here ever since." However, her profile on the activist website dreamactivist.org reveals that she came to the United States from Mexico at age 8 on a tourist visa and that her family then illegally overstayed.....
According to the LA Times: ... In 2009, she allegedly rolled through a stop sign and was stopped by a police officer. Veliz had a Mexican consular card but no driver's license. She was booked in jail overnight, and the police contacted immigration authorities. That started deportation proceedings against her. .
....but she's still here, breaking laws and riding the US gravy train......
Hmmmm..... guess she will have to use one of her other identities-----one that has no criminal record. Each identity sucking up mucho US tax dollars, UI checks, welfare checks, disability checks, EITC refunds, etc etc etc. Wonder how much money little Benita is laundering--- and wiring back to secret Mexican bank accounts?
NEED TO KNOW Did she get in-state tuition? Did her parents (or other illegals) falsely declare them on federal apps to get $$$thousands in EITC refunds----maybe falsely stating their "kids" (existent and non-existent) were back home across the border? DID SHE AND HER PARENTS SWINDLE THE US GOVT? DID THEY OBTAIN FRAUDULENT MORTGAGES? MORTGAGES THAT DEVSTATED THE US ECONOMY? THAT US TAXPAYERS WERE FORCED TO BAILOUT?