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Lawyers say Arkansas to use untried execution drug
Associated Press ^ | Apr 16, 2013 10:00 PM EDT | Jeanie Nuss

Posted on 04/17/2013 12:43:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Arkansas plans to put prisoners to death with a drug that apparently hasn’t been used in a U.S. execution, and lawyers for condemned inmates warn that it could take longer for someone to die from it than from other lethal injection drugs.

Arkansas Department of Correction spokeswoman Shea Wilson told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the state plans to use phenobarbital, along with lorazepam, in lethal injections. None are currently scheduled, but Arkansas recently passed a law that will allow the state to resume executions. …

In a letter obtained by the AP, federal public defender Jennifer Horan told Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe that phenobarbital takes effect more slowly than other drugs used to execute prisoners and that it carries a “substantial risk of a lingering and inhumane death.” …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: beebe; deathrow; execution; lethalinjection; lorazepam; phenobarbital

1 posted on 04/17/2013 12:43:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I seem to recall reading various books by older vets that phenobarbital was the preferred humane euthanasia drug for animals. Too damn kind for prisoners!


2 posted on 04/17/2013 12:48:05 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: Olog-hai; All
(Yes, some drugs are "untried"...until they are tried...so...have a death-row inmate "volunteer" to be THE guinea pig...and then we can just "move along" from that "untried" concern..right?)
3 posted on 04/17/2013 12:49:00 AM PDT by Colofornian (Jude 3: "...I felt compelled to write and urge you to CONTEND for the faith that was once for all")
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>> Lawyers say Arkansas to use untried execution drug

LOL - untested...

Headline award.


4 posted on 04/17/2013 12:49:32 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Olog-hai

3 ounces of lead to the back of the head from a tube about 8 gauge has proven 100% successful.


5 posted on 04/17/2013 12:50:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olog-hai

They don’t want to die... but they want to die quick.

Some people are never satisfied.


6 posted on 04/17/2013 12:56:19 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Olog-hai

Execution should be by the same manner and method the convicted felon used on his or her victims.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 12:58:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Olog-hai

Rope is a proven technology.


8 posted on 04/17/2013 1:00:13 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

9 posted on 04/17/2013 1:05:19 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Olog-hai
...it could take longer for someone to die from it than from other lethal injection drugs.

Oh please. Fry me a liver. How long did it take their victims to die? Tie them up them out in the desert on an anthill for all I care.

10 posted on 04/17/2013 1:11:52 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Olog-hai
From what I've heard this combination is thought to be better. It may take longer, but they will be unconscious. It's two old drugs commonly used by humans in normal doses, and I believe one is what's used to euthanize animals, as someone already stated. I'm pretty sure they know exactly how it's going work. The combo they usually use works fast, but it has caused what seem to be painful deaths. Both are probably nothing compared to the fear and pain they inflicted while committing the murder/s that put them there.
11 posted on 04/17/2013 1:22:33 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG - WWW.CSPOA.ORG)
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To: Olog-hai

Well ....gotta try the drugs sometime. Its not like “can be fatal in large doses” is a big issue here


12 posted on 04/17/2013 2:24:43 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Olog-hai

Lawyers say Arkansas to use untried execution drug


WoW! That could be dangerous and may kill the animal quicker and with less pain that the poor soul he/she killed.

We certainly can’t be putting dangerous drugs into death row criminals can we? It just might KILL THEM!


13 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:55 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

and I believe one is what’s used to euthanize animals, as someone already stated.


Well.............they are animals.


14 posted on 04/17/2013 3:05:29 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Olog-hai

What? Are they afraid they’re goning to get somebody killed?


15 posted on 04/17/2013 4:03:04 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Olog-hai

I guess they don’t want to harm the convict, just kill him. /s/


16 posted on 04/17/2013 4:19:46 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Olog-hai

If it kills them, then it works.


17 posted on 04/17/2013 4:38:55 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Olog-hai

200mg of morphine, plus 50mg of of any benzodiazepine (like valium, ativan, xanax) will kill most any adult human.

They will have an amazing high, followed by unconsciousness, followed rapidly by respiratory arrest.

Add say, 20mg of potassium, 5 minutes after the first cocktail and you’ll get a nearly instant cardiac arrest that the prisoner will never feel.


18 posted on 04/17/2013 4:42:32 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Olog-hai

They should use the same method of execution that they used on Terri Schiavo.


19 posted on 04/17/2013 4:46:26 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Olog-hai

Untied? Why does this matter?
Just hook the perp up to a I.V. gasoline drip and give him a smoke.


20 posted on 04/17/2013 4:50:20 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: clee1

Use the same method the Euthanasia advocated recommend. Plastic bag and helium.


21 posted on 04/17/2013 5:10:14 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: Olog-hai
WTF is up with these 'lawyers'? Phenobarbital has been used in modern medicine almost 'forever'. It's an effective sedative (one of many uses) and has prolly been been prescribed millions of times in the USA alone.

So what's the big deal if a Convicted Murderer will basically be given an OD of a sedative to put him to sleep, or in a coma, in a minute or so before getting the final 'kill shot'. The maggot ain't gonna feel a friggen thing -- unlike what the DEAD victim(s) likely went through. Would these asshat 'lawyers' feel better if the scumbag was just shot in the temple with a 9mm or 45? That sure would be 'quick' and 'painless', which seems to be their argument and goal anyway.

I'd also bet there'd be a lot of volunteers to pull that trigger. Heck if they pay my travel expenses I'll do it. I'll even furnish my own ... 'equipment'.

22 posted on 04/17/2013 5:23:19 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Olog-hai

Do we get to try it on the lawyers first?


23 posted on 04/17/2013 5:46:06 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Olog-hai

Weren’t all drugs ‘untried drugs’ until the first time they were tried? So after the first execution it won’t be an ‘untried drug’ anymore now will it?


24 posted on 04/17/2013 5:48:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Berlin_Freeper
They don’t want to die... but they want to die quick.

Some people are never satisfied.

That reminds me of what my father used to say of someone: "He'd complain if you hanged him with a NEW rope."

25 posted on 04/17/2013 5:56:54 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: wetgundog

There are a lot of animals in the zoo that need feeding.


26 posted on 04/17/2013 6:05:37 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Agree one hundred percent.


27 posted on 04/17/2013 6:25:40 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Olog-hai

Just shoot ‘em......it’ll be fun....Bang...Dead...Done.


28 posted on 04/17/2013 6:27:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Fire_on_High

This will probably result in a 13 year court battle over the claim that the FDA has not found the drug to be “safe and effective”.

From what I understand a Brit company bought the pharma firm that made the old drug and now refuses to sell it for executions.


29 posted on 04/17/2013 6:38:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

Use an injection of Nicotine sulfide. It used to be used on animals.

If that fails there is always a lead injection into the ear. .22 or .38 works wonders if you can find a load since the Homeland Security has bought them all up.

Then there is hemp or manila rope and a air dance.


30 posted on 04/17/2013 7:01:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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