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Rubio pushes back against false claim his bill gives immigrants free cell phones
Conservative Intelligence Breifing ^ | 4/17/2013 | David Freddoso

Posted on 04/17/2013 11:09:01 AM PDT by Kevin C

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., went on Laura Ingraham’s show today to discuss his 844-page immigration bill, only to be hit by questions about “Marco phones.”

The Florida blog Shark Tank, run by Javier Manjarres, ran first with this odd story, which illustrates the problem of non-lawyers attempting to read and interpret legislation without the help of experts:

According to the newly filed bill, immigrants who are allowed to enter the United States under a work visa, will be ‘granted’ a taxpayer funded cellular phone. Move over “Obama phone,” we present the new ‘Hola, Como Estas?!’ MarcoPhone.

Manjarres was referring to Section 1107, which contains this passage:

ELIGIBILITY FOR GRANTS.—An individual is eligible to receive a grant under this subsection if the individual demonstrates that he or she— (A) regularly resides or works in the Southwest Border region; is at greater risk of border violence due to the lack of cellular service at his or her residence or business and his or her proximity to the Southern border. (3) USE OF GRANTS.—Grants awarded under this subsection may be used to purchase satellite telephone communications systems and service that— (A) can provide access to 9–1–1 service; and (B) are equipped with global positioning

Breitbart.com picked up the story as well.

But it’s not true.

The provision in question, Rubio explained later in the day in an interview with Laura Ingraham, is designed so that ranchers and farmers along rural areas of the border (say, in Arizona) can report illegal crossings and violence, which are a big problem there. Many of the areas are very remote and lack cell phone coverage. A rancher in his pickup who noticed, say, 50 heavily armed cartel goons running across his land would probably have no way to phone it in to authorities. Hence the grants for purchasing satellite phones — which are not cheap.

Based on a quick search of the legislative database, Sens. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) appear to have first proposed the language in May 2010, when Rubio was still just a primary candidate for U.S. Senate. Their bill, S. 3332 (“Border Security Enforcement Act of 2010″), contained no immigration provisions at all — just border security measures, including the phones, grants to towns along the border and deployment of 3,000 additional National Guardsmen at the border.

In order to please immigration hawks, the old border security bill was folded into the comprehensive immigration bill this year, so that senators could show they were doing something to crack down on illegal border crossings.

Rubio explained what the provision was about in the interview with Ingraham, which he also posted on his website:

Ingraham: “[I]n 844 pages, as you can imagine, there’s quite a lot of interesting nuggets in here. You actually can be eligible for a grant for a phone, it looks like. A two year grant program to receive a cellular phone. And articles this morning, as you can imagine, are fairly amusing. ‘Move over Obama phone, this is the amnesty phone.’ What’s going on with that?”

Rubio: “That’s false. That’s not for the illegal immigrants. That’s for U.S. citizens and residents who live in the border region so that they can have access to calls. One of their complaints – that’s actually part of the Kyl border bill that we adopted. And what it does is it provides communication equipment to people who are living in the border region so they can report illegal crossings because many of them either don’t have phone service or don’t have cell phone service and they have no way of calling.”

Ingraham: “I know it’s not for the illegal immigrants, but it’s an outlay of money, is it not?”

Rubio: “Well again, that’s part of a border security package. That all of which is paid for by the fees and fines we are charging as part of this program. That is actually a border security measure that we have adopted and it’s involved to help rural citizens who live along the border that have access to communication equipment so they can call police and they can report border violence. Because one of the complaints we got from the border region is they don’t have any way to communicate with police or border patrol in time if they see something happening on the border. So this is designed to help in that regard. It’s not some effort to provide phone service to anybody.”

Ingraham: “That’s okay, that’s not really something that bothers me. I’m not even sure why that’s even in here, but I guess I get your point.”

Rubio: “Well the reason why that’s there is because the people on the border tell us…”

Ingraham: “They don’t have cell phones?”

Rubio: “Some of those regions don’t have cell phone coverage. They’re mountainous regions; they’re remote regions in rural areas of the border. Some of the most desolate places in the country, that’s why people cross illegally there.”

Ingraham: “Right and I understand that. It just seems to be those people who are the de facto who are enforcing the border, with the cell phones, to me its seems like it’s difficult.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestyphone; amnestyphones; cfr; getarealjob; globalist; immigration; macrophones; nwoagenda; obamaphones; rubiophone; rubiophones; twerp
BTW, Mr. Manjarres is kind of a shady character. And by shady, I mean criminal: www.truthaboutjaviermanjarres.com/files/javierarrestrecord.pdf
1 posted on 04/17/2013 11:09:01 AM PDT by Kevin C
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To: Kevin C

Yet it doesn’t negate the fact that Rubio is a sell out.


2 posted on 04/17/2013 11:11:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kevin C

Caught flat footed and being whipsaw by both sides... career over!


3 posted on 04/17/2013 11:12:50 AM PDT by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: Kevin C

which illustrates the problem of non-lawyers attempting to read and interpret legislation without the help of experts: \.........................................................
Laws should be written so that every American who speaks, understands and reads English cab understand them.

Laws written so that only lawyers can understand them are written that way for a reason. They do not want regular American citizens to understand them.

I give you Obamacare as an example./Even lawyers cannot understand that mess.


4 posted on 04/17/2013 11:14:38 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kevin C

So they are for areas where there isn’t any cell phone service - so we pay to give them cell phones???


5 posted on 04/17/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by Truth29
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6 posted on 04/17/2013 11:17:56 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Kevin C

So Rubio wants to give them a cell phone or satellite phone instead of sealing the border? Who’s going to come save them, Janet Napolitano?


7 posted on 04/17/2013 11:18:58 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Kevin C

No, no, no, don’t be silly, i-Pads, doublewides and brand-new Chevrolet pick-up trucks.


8 posted on 04/17/2013 11:25:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Kevin C

HEADS UP! They are obviously trying to get this bill passed and signed into law....THEN....The One, will ignore/refuse to enforce ALL of the parts that do not fit his (destroy America) agenda, IMO.


9 posted on 04/17/2013 11:32:15 AM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Kevin C
Rubio: “That’s false. That’s not for the illegal immigrants. That’s for U.S. citizens and residents who live in the border region so that they can have access to calls.

Marco, say for instance this legislation passes, what are you going to refer to all those criminal invaders as?

Oh yeah that's right-Residents

WHO WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR SAT. PHONES.

10 posted on 04/17/2013 11:32:45 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Venturer

Well if it doesn’t say it is for ranchers then it will be interpreted to be meant for illegals by some fine upstanding dem congress person and it will become a brand new gimme program for them. Just watch.


11 posted on 04/17/2013 11:33:38 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Kevin C

Better to control these remote crossing areas with armed drones.


12 posted on 04/17/2013 11:37:01 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell, Huxley and Rand warned us about 0bama's USA)
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To: cripplecreek

You are mentioned:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2013/04/turd-blossom-republicans-have-sold-out.html


13 posted on 04/17/2013 11:39:23 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
"which illustrates the problem of non-lawyers attempting to read and interpret legislation without the help of experts"

Which is a whole separate, ugly topic all by itself.

Florida Freeper


14 posted on 04/17/2013 11:41:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Kevin C

yes... i see... we are too stupid to understand the law, we need ‘experts’

So... is ‘ignorance of the law’ a good excuse now? or what?

I mean if they are ADMITTING we can’t understand it...


15 posted on 04/17/2013 11:43:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Kevin C
How utterly insulting and f@cking arrogant.
16 posted on 04/17/2013 11:44:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
This statement, I mean.

The Florida blog Shark Tank, run by Javier Manjarres, ran first with this odd story, which illustrates the problem of non-lawyers attempting to read and interpret legislation without the help of experts:

17 posted on 04/17/2013 11:45:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kevin C

If we’re going to give the criminals who broke into our country citizenship, we might as well give them free phones... what the hell, the party’s on and the place isn’t totally broke yet.


18 posted on 04/17/2013 11:51:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Joe Brower

Lawyers should be barred from holding elected office.


19 posted on 04/17/2013 11:59:04 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: Kevin C

Rubio: Of course we arent given out free cell phones to MY illegal aliens.

They must pay for them.

While the service is free the cell phones cost $450 each.

Only the best for MY illegal aliens.

They deserve smart phones...I-Phones...for being so brave and coming out of the shadows at last..poor things..

MY illegal aliens can pay for them with the EBT cards we will give each one...


20 posted on 04/17/2013 12:00:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kevin C

Dear Marco Rubio, perhaps you didn’t learn these things while growing up, but you should never stick a butter knife into an electrical outlet, kick a fresh cow pie on a hot day or point your Red Ryder BB Gun at your brothers eye.

Oh, and here are some rules about lying that might help you.

1) NEVER EVER lie.

2) If you ever do lie, NEVER EVER stop.

Sorry Marco, but I just don’t trust you.


21 posted on 04/17/2013 12:10:21 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Joe Brower

As one distinguished state supreme court justice of my acquaintance explained privately, “Not even the legislature knows what the hell the law means until we tell them.”


22 posted on 04/17/2013 12:11:57 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: sheana

if you read the verbage it says it is for
“Section 1107, which contains this passage:

ELIGIBILITY FOR GRANTS.—An individual is eligible to receive a grant under this subsection if the individual demonstrates that he or she— (A) regularly resides or works in the Southwest Border region; is at greater risk of border violence due to the lack of cellular service at his or her residence or business and his or her proximity to the Southern border”

I guess there could be illegals who regulary resides or works out there
but it seems pretty clear to me it is NOT for illegals

MY friend with her ranch on the border is south Texas doesn’t get cell service .

Of much greter concern is the provision that allows the Feds to bypass Rubio’s stated metric of illegals having to wait 10 years.
The expections to that make sure they all will be given legal status right away.
HOW did he let that through


23 posted on 04/17/2013 12:20:01 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: AuntB

LOL Nice.


24 posted on 04/17/2013 12:21:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: clintonh8r

Did you know there was once a state that almost came about called the State of Franklin, and in their constitution, Lawyers and preachers could not hold office. The movement stopped with the Revolution, IIRC. I actually have a couple ancestors and their birth records said, ‘the state of Franklin”


25 posted on 04/17/2013 12:27:30 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: RWGinger

Maybe.....just maybe.....he didn’t ‘let’ it through but agrees with it. I explain all this stuff as they meant to do it now. That is the easiest explanation for the garbage that comes out of Congress anymore.


26 posted on 04/17/2013 12:30:38 PM PDT by sheana
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To: cripplecreek

The Obamaphone lady was a U.S. citizen so this doesn’t really make me feel any better.


27 posted on 04/17/2013 12:54:56 PM PDT by exist
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To: Kevin C

I voted for Rubio, it will not happen again.
Hell with ya there senore’


28 posted on 04/17/2013 1:23:02 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher

How corrupt one can get in such a short time.....but that’s CONgress.


29 posted on 04/17/2013 1:32:09 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Kevin C

I think Drudge has free phones as part of the package. Yep, that’s not an incentive...


30 posted on 04/17/2013 2:06:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: sheana

“That is the easiest explanation for the garbage that comes out of Congress anymore.”
You are 1000% correct

At least now enough of us can also know what crap is in bills, usually(obamacare was intended to NOT be read)
and jopefully enough of us will contact our Pols


31 posted on 04/17/2013 2:57:29 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Truth29
So they are for areas where there isn’t any cell phone service - so we pay to give them cell phones???

You seem to have a handle on understanding Government subsidies. :)

32 posted on 04/17/2013 11:36:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
C'mona my house ... Good ta see ya DJ! ..................................................................................................... FRegards
33 posted on 04/18/2013 1:37:33 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: cripplecreek; Kevin C; Jim Robinson

And I worked for this corksucker!

Meh - I’ve been fooled before ....................................................................................... FRegards


34 posted on 04/18/2013 2:26:21 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: gonzo

Didn’t take long for the DC RINO/statist traitors to find and exploit his weak spot. When he joined forces with traitors McLame and his gay little dog Grahamnesty, he kissed his presidential hopes goodbye.

Goodbye, Marco. We hardly knew ye.


35 posted on 04/18/2013 2:50:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, I’ll work to un-seat Nelson, next time around ... Fregards


36 posted on 04/18/2013 6:20:37 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Kevin C

Remember when this guy was considered Tea Party material?


37 posted on 04/21/2013 6:10:22 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey Rush, you forgot to tell us when to panic.)
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