Skip to comments.Texas explosion was a Bomb - fire dispatch recording
Posted on 04/18/2013 12:48:21 AM PDT by Species8472
A recording of the radio traffic between fire dispatch and responders reveal that West fire units report that a bomb went off in the building.
Interesting. Thanks. Condolences to families and friends of those who died.
If you were on the radio when that happened, you could easily say a bomb went off - it wouldn’t mean a real bomb actually was planted.
Maybe the dispatcher said, “Go ahead, burn it down.”?
Waco area, anniversary of Waco massacre, Hitler’s birthday, anniversary of OKC bombing.... nah, just an accident.
Weird stuff going on.
I’m guessing someone who doesn’t know what really happened and assumed it was a bomb. You hear stuff like this on police scanners more often than you think and it turns out it wasn’t what the RP thought it was.
While it is possible it WAS a bomb, in light of other events this week, it is also possible he just made a false assumption. We will have to wait and see.
Agreed - waiting for the forensics
I agree...seems to early to be determining that it’s a bomb....let’s hope they were just speculating.
it was a bomb.......watch the time line and I’m a dislocated Texan............it’s 1 am here and my phone won’t stop ringin
do you have a link to a report saying bomb?
Gotta love April.
He says “A bomb *just* went off and is really upset. Could be an explosion of another sort, not a bomb, IMO.
Prayers for all in this area. May God Bless and Comfort each one affected.
It takes a high explosive to initiate a low explosive like ammonium nitrate.
AS is often the case the CT crowd speaks with little info and even less reason.
Yes it could be a bomb, that the fire dept was at the scene fighting a fire (with video from home owner) and that Ammonium Nitrate is quite volatile when handled in a manner like oh say a building fire should of coarse be ignored because a snippet on radio used the word bomb instead of explosion.
And 2 days early.
now let’s try the Queen’s english
Not really we used to blow up containers of the stuff on the farm or use it to demolish things, it just needs an igniter or good size spark.
agreed and it would make sense that the guy would have bombs on the brain considering Boston.
It does not require a High Explosive.
Texas City 1947 is an example of this phenomena.
Prayers to the survivors and those that have lost loved ones.
Correct. Also I read in an early report that there was a fire, they used water and then the explosion. Water and AN is endothermic but after a certain point it becomes exothermic so that could have been a factor.
Don’t be stupid.
Yeah, a fertilizer plant blew up. Happens. Fertilizer plants, fireworks factories, and munitions plants all have similar track records of cooking off now and again.
Goes off *like* a bomb due to the materials involved.
But it would be stupid to pretend that an accidental explosion, or words to describe such in the heat of the moment, would be the same as a deliberately designed bomb.
...show me that you know the difference.
If you can.
Are you saying this was domestic?
It could be of course but it smells like Al Queda to me.
There is video of the blast. And prior to the explosion there WAS a pretty major fire going on there.
On high alert in OK...
Oklahoma City bomb team called in after report of suspicious U-Haul truck in downtown
The cops used a robot to investigate, but luckily the vehicle was empty on the anniversary week of the McVeigh bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.
By Sasha Goldstein / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 5:22 PM
Neither, just an excited observer getting mixed up with big explosion equaling bomb.
Here’s the amateur video:
There’s another video somewhere on youtube that slows it down frame-by-frame. Needless to say, HUGE explosion.
That is the video that has already been debunked by several sources. Apparently it is from a few years ago.
Videographer was taping the fire when the major explosion occurred.
Up to the Minute on CBS is showing the major damage to the homes in the area. Walls blown in 10 feet or more.
Not saying you are wrong, but can you point me to the info where the video was debunked? Thanks.
Post the sources...
Some of the other threads also mention it and that the news source retracted after showing it.
I also know that a good percentage of those fires and explosions are sabotage or arson. It can be a disgruntled employee, financial difficulties, or an environmental wack job.
It's why we have arson investigation squads. I also know that a trained firefighter can recognize a bomb as well as other devices used to commit arson.
Terrorism is always a possibility of course, and given all the DHS/FEMA/USFA training on the subject that has been thrust upon us since 911, may have been the first thing the firefighter thought of when the place went up.
Did you even look at the video in post 31. It is not the same video as the one with man and his kid in the truck. Please review both videos.
Looks like two completely different videos to me. I recognize the video you referenced as an old video that I’ve seen many times before.
The link I posted is to a completely different video.
Two Different Videos reaganaut...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrpKx3aIjA (man in auto with kid when West TX building explodes)
(Video from a Discovery Show on a Chemcial Plant Explosion) - the one you linked to in post #31 from the other thread.
Also, for the record, Drudge has a link to the same video I posted. He’s not infallible, but he’s pretty accurate when it comes to these kinds of events.
You got it right fiftymegaton. You have the real West, TX video link posted.
According to Fox...it was a FIRE to begin with...the explosion happened 50 minutes later....
The town’s volunteer firefighters responded to a call at the plant about 6 p.m., said Waco police Sgt. William Patrick Swanton. Muska was among them, and he and his colleagues were working to evacuate the area around the plant when the blast followed about 50 minutes later. Muska said it knocked off his fire helmet and blew out the doors and windows of his nearby home.
Five or six volunteer firefighters were at the plant fire when the explosion happened, Muska said, and not all have been accounted for.
Not according to the fire department there..who responded to a “Fire”....the explosion happened 50 minutes later.
Foxnews has a link up to the same video you posted also.
Weird? Seems to me like we’re under attack. Thanks to the limp-wrist idiot in the WH, our enemies - within and international - see opportunity to carry out their threats.
It’s time for Obama, Congress and Janet to go.
At this point I would NOT conclude a bomb. There was one hell of an explosion though during a fire at a fertilizer plant.
Heat, does some weird and amazing stuff to some chemicals. I couldn’t tell you how many ‘safety videos’ I’ve seen reiterating how low explosive stuff can become quite volitile in heat or barrels left even left sitting in the sunshine start having a reaction in the barrel and cannot be contained or stopped. Or can only be stopped by cooling the containers...but it doesn’t always work. They then explode with amazing force.
So given there are a lot of chemical components and heat(fire), I’m not willing to jump to the conclusion of a bomb. I am much more likely to conclude some chemicals staged or stored improperly.
Which then means there is a ton of OSHA and EPA violations at the facility. I’d be more inclined to look to the safety record/ inspection record first, before jumping to the conclusion of a bomb.
No. More like a highly unfortunate industrial accident.
Wiki has a good reference page on “Ammonium Nitrate Disasters”, which highlights some of the bigger catastrophes, such as the Texas City Disaster and the Oppau Disaster of 1921.
I’m sure the responder might have thought it was a bomb, but it doesn’t mean that it was. Ammonium Nitrate does explode after all, especially considering there was a serious fire at the plant prior to the explosion.
Here’s the wiki page for one and all. Scary stuff.