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Texas explosion was a Bomb - fire dispatch recording
Live leak.com ^ | 4-17-2013 | Live leak

Posted on 04/18/2013 12:48:21 AM PDT by Species8472

A recording of the radio traffic between fire dispatch and responders reveal that West fire units report that a bomb went off in the building.


TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: explosion; fire; texas
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False flag or covering up evidence
1 posted on 04/18/2013 12:48:21 AM PDT by Species8472
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To: Species8472

Interesting. Thanks. Condolences to families and friends of those who died.


2 posted on 04/18/2013 12:50:54 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Species8472

If you were on the radio when that happened, you could easily say a bomb went off - it wouldn’t mean a real bomb actually was planted.


3 posted on 04/18/2013 12:53:00 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Species8472

Maybe the dispatcher said, “Go ahead, burn it down.”?


4 posted on 04/18/2013 12:53:25 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Species8472

Waco area, anniversary of Waco massacre, Hitler’s birthday, anniversary of OKC bombing.... nah, just an accident.


5 posted on 04/18/2013 12:53:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Weird stuff going on.


6 posted on 04/18/2013 12:55:03 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Species8472

I’m guessing someone who doesn’t know what really happened and assumed it was a bomb. You hear stuff like this on police scanners more often than you think and it turns out it wasn’t what the RP thought it was.

While it is possible it WAS a bomb, in light of other events this week, it is also possible he just made a false assumption. We will have to wait and see.


7 posted on 04/18/2013 12:55:30 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: donna

Agreed - waiting for the forensics


8 posted on 04/18/2013 12:56:47 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: reaganaut

I agree...seems to early to be determining that it’s a bomb....let’s hope they were just speculating.


9 posted on 04/18/2013 1:00:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

it was a bomb.......watch the time line and I’m a dislocated Texan............it’s 1 am here and my phone won’t stop ringin


10 posted on 04/18/2013 1:01:47 AM PDT by advertising guy (clearly, semi automatic high capacity pressure cookers should be banned)
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To: caww

do you have a link to a report saying bomb?


11 posted on 04/18/2013 1:03:36 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: beaversmom

Gotta love April.


12 posted on 04/18/2013 1:08:39 AM PDT by RC one (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Species8472

He says “A bomb *just* went off and is really upset. Could be an explosion of another sort, not a bomb, IMO.


13 posted on 04/18/2013 1:09:34 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Species8472
Not jumping to conclusion, myself, at this time.

Prayers for all in this area. May God Bless and Comfort each one affected.

14 posted on 04/18/2013 1:09:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: reaganaut
I can't say weather it was a bomb or not, but very clearly, 15 seconds into the recording the firefighter on location states that a bomb just went off in the building.

It takes a high explosive to initiate a low explosive like ammonium nitrate.

15 posted on 04/18/2013 1:10:09 AM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid is supposed to hurt)
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AS is often the case the CT crowd speaks with little info and even less reason.

Yes it could be a bomb, that the fire dept was at the scene fighting a fire (with video from home owner) and that Ammonium Nitrate is quite volatile when handled in a manner like oh say a building fire should of coarse be ignored because a snippet on radio used the word bomb instead of explosion.


16 posted on 04/18/2013 1:11:01 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Waco area, anniversary of Waco massacre, Hitler’s birthday, anniversary of OKC bombing.... nah, just an accident.

And 2 days early.

17 posted on 04/18/2013 1:12:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Bidimus1

now let’s try the Queen’s english


18 posted on 04/18/2013 1:13:50 AM PDT by advertising guy (clearly, semi automatic high capacity pressure cookers should be banned)
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To: Species8472

Not really we used to blow up containers of the stuff on the farm or use it to demolish things, it just needs an igniter or good size spark.


19 posted on 04/18/2013 1:15:00 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Bidimus1

agreed and it would make sense that the guy would have bombs on the brain considering Boston.


20 posted on 04/18/2013 1:15:56 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Species8472

It does not require a High Explosive.

http://www.sinooan.com/do-you-know-much-of-disaster_91.html

http://www.hysafe.org/science/eAcademy/docs/3rdfesshs/presentations/ESSHS2008DorofeevSB.pd

Texas City 1947 is an example of this phenomena.

Prayers to the survivors and those that have lost loved ones.


21 posted on 04/18/2013 1:21:58 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

Correct. Also I read in an early report that there was a fire, they used water and then the explosion. Water and AN is endothermic but after a certain point it becomes exothermic so that could have been a factor.


22 posted on 04/18/2013 1:23:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Species8472

Don’t be stupid.

Seriously.

Yeah, a fertilizer plant blew up. Happens. Fertilizer plants, fireworks factories, and munitions plants all have similar track records of cooking off now and again.

Goes off *like* a bomb due to the materials involved.

But it would be stupid to pretend that an accidental explosion, or words to describe such in the heat of the moment, would be the same as a deliberately designed bomb.

...show me that you know the difference.

If you can.


23 posted on 04/18/2013 1:27:13 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are you saying this was domestic?

It could be of course but it smells like Al Queda to me.


24 posted on 04/18/2013 1:31:38 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: reaganaut; All

There is video of the blast. And prior to the explosion there WAS a pretty major fire going on there.


25 posted on 04/18/2013 1:33:19 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: donna; All

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_trichloride


26 posted on 04/18/2013 1:34:46 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Species8472

On high alert in OK...

Oklahoma City bomb team called in after report of suspicious U-Haul truck in downtown

The cops used a robot to investigate, but luckily the vehicle was empty — on the anniversary week of the McVeigh bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

By Sasha Goldstein / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, April 17, 2013, 5:22 PM

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/abandoned-truck-oklahoma-city-town-hall-high-alert-article-1.1319528


27 posted on 04/18/2013 1:36:03 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Species8472

Neither, just an excited observer getting mixed up with big explosion equaling bomb.


28 posted on 04/18/2013 1:38:31 AM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: fiftymegaton; All

Here’s the amateur video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrpKx3aIjA

There’s another video somewhere on youtube that slows it down frame-by-frame. Needless to say, HUGE explosion.


29 posted on 04/18/2013 1:40:11 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: fiftymegaton

That is the video that has already been debunked by several sources. Apparently it is from a few years ago.


30 posted on 04/18/2013 1:41:26 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: fiftymegaton

Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3iL2EhVsTs

Videographer was taping the fire when the major explosion occurred.


31 posted on 04/18/2013 1:41:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: PGalt
  If there was a fertilizer explosion somewhere that you don't usually find fertilizer, then it might be intentional. When it happens inside the fertilizer plant, it sounds like an accident.
32 posted on 04/18/2013 1:42:07 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Species8472

Up to the Minute on CBS is showing the major damage to the homes in the area. Walls blown in 10 feet or more.


33 posted on 04/18/2013 1:45:41 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: reaganaut

Not saying you are wrong, but can you point me to the info where the video was debunked? Thanks.


34 posted on 04/18/2013 1:47:24 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: reaganaut

Post the sources...


35 posted on 04/18/2013 1:49:48 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Species8472
Just because it seemed like Hiroshima or Nagasaki (or Texas City) doesn't mean a bomb went off. It just means something went boomb! real good!
36 posted on 04/18/2013 1:53:20 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: fiftymegaton; stlnative

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3009132/posts?page=31#31

Some of the other threads also mention it and that the news source retracted after showing it.


37 posted on 04/18/2013 1:57:15 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Southack
All kinds of facilities "blow up" and burn. I've been there and done that in 39 years in the fire service.

I also know that a good percentage of those fires and explosions are sabotage or arson. It can be a disgruntled employee, financial difficulties, or an environmental wack job.

It's why we have arson investigation squads. I also know that a trained firefighter can recognize a bomb as well as other devices used to commit arson.

Terrorism is always a possibility of course, and given all the DHS/FEMA/USFA training on the subject that has been thrust upon us since 911, may have been the first thing the firefighter thought of when the place went up.

38 posted on 04/18/2013 2:00:31 AM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid is supposed to hurt)
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To: reaganaut

Did you even look at the video in post 31. It is not the same video as the one with man and his kid in the truck. Please review both videos.


39 posted on 04/18/2013 2:05:49 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: reaganaut

Looks like two completely different videos to me. I recognize the video you referenced as an old video that I’ve seen many times before.

The link I posted is to a completely different video.


40 posted on 04/18/2013 2:05:59 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: reaganaut

Two Different Videos reaganaut...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrpKx3aIjA (man in auto with kid when West TX building explodes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_KuGizBjDXo#t=29s
(Video from a Discovery Show on a Chemcial Plant Explosion) - the one you linked to in post #31 from the other thread.


41 posted on 04/18/2013 2:09:47 AM PDT by stlnative
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Also, for the record, Drudge has a link to the same video I posted. He’s not infallible, but he’s pretty accurate when it comes to these kinds of events.


42 posted on 04/18/2013 2:11:33 AM PDT by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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You got it right fiftymegaton. You have the real West, TX video link posted.


43 posted on 04/18/2013 2:15:03 AM PDT by stlnative
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According to Fox...it was a FIRE to begin with...the explosion happened 50 minutes later....

The town’s volunteer firefighters responded to a call at the plant about 6 p.m., said Waco police Sgt. William Patrick Swanton. Muska was among them, and he and his colleagues were working to evacuate the area around the plant when the blast followed about 50 minutes later. Muska said it knocked off his fire helmet and blew out the doors and windows of his nearby home.

Five or six volunteer firefighters were at the plant fire when the explosion happened, Muska said, and not all have been accounted for.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/18/numerous-injuries-reported-in-large-explosion-at-texas-fertilizer-plant/#ixzz2QnyiSi8j


44 posted on 04/18/2013 2:21:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: advertising guy

Not according to the fire department there..who responded to a “Fire”....the explosion happened 50 minutes later.


45 posted on 04/18/2013 2:23:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: fiftymegaton

Foxnews has a link up to the same video you posted also.


46 posted on 04/18/2013 2:27:43 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: beaversmom

Weird? Seems to me like we’re under attack. Thanks to the limp-wrist idiot in the WH, our enemies - within and international - see opportunity to carry out their threats.


47 posted on 04/18/2013 2:57:18 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: Species8472

It’s time for Obama, Congress and Janet to go.


48 posted on 04/18/2013 2:58:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Species8472

At this point I would NOT conclude a bomb. There was one hell of an explosion though during a fire at a fertilizer plant.

Heat, does some weird and amazing stuff to some chemicals. I couldn’t tell you how many ‘safety videos’ I’ve seen reiterating how low explosive stuff can become quite volitile in heat or barrels left even left sitting in the sunshine start having a reaction in the barrel and cannot be contained or stopped. Or can only be stopped by cooling the containers...but it doesn’t always work. They then explode with amazing force.

So given there are a lot of chemical components and heat(fire), I’m not willing to jump to the conclusion of a bomb. I am much more likely to conclude some chemicals staged or stored improperly.

Which then means there is a ton of OSHA and EPA violations at the facility. I’d be more inclined to look to the safety record/ inspection record first, before jumping to the conclusion of a bomb.


49 posted on 04/18/2013 2:59:08 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: Species8472

No. More like a highly unfortunate industrial accident.

Wiki has a good reference page on “Ammonium Nitrate Disasters”, which highlights some of the bigger catastrophes, such as the Texas City Disaster and the Oppau Disaster of 1921.

I’m sure the responder might have thought it was a bomb, but it doesn’t mean that it was. Ammonium Nitrate does explode after all, especially considering there was a serious fire at the plant prior to the explosion.

Here’s the wiki page for one and all. Scary stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_nitrate_disasters


50 posted on 04/18/2013 3:00:06 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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