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Cause of Texas fertilizer plant blast that killed up to 15 'suspicious:' source
nypost.com ^ | April 18, 2013 | JOSH MARGOLIN and JOSH SAUL

Posted on 04/18/2013 9:19:53 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: BarnacleCenturion
Cause of Texas fertilizer plant blast that killed up to 15 'suspicious:' source

Huh?? Oh yeah, the media did mention that once. They said around 20 to 30 killed and over 100 injured. Meanwhile, back on the streets of Boston....

51 posted on 04/18/2013 10:06:56 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale

check out the slow-mo in 21...


52 posted on 04/18/2013 10:09:00 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I was watching it on Fox late last night, and they had a sound clip from one of the firefighters inside just before the explosion. He said to the 911 dispatch: “A BOMB JUST WENT OFF IN HERE!” then asked for more assistance. It could have been an expression of the suddenness of the fire and its spread, but those are his exact words. Don’t know if it was retained in the official broadcast later.


53 posted on 04/18/2013 10:09:35 AM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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To: Ramius
On April 12th there was a bomb found in Waco in a car. West is 19.4 miles from Waco.
54 posted on 04/18/2013 10:11:35 AM PDT by lula ( What America needs is men of Character in congress, we have enough characters.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’ll wait to hear it from somebody more credible than a ‘Senior Obama Administration Official’. Preferably somebody that has actually been to West, Texas ... and has at least a slight understanding of how a fertilizer factory might malfunction when on fire.

SnakeDoc


55 posted on 04/18/2013 10:12:10 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: Pollster1
We had an IED attack in Boston

That's another phrase the media is careful not to use, IED. They beat themselves when they are forced to use the word terrorist or terrorism too.

56 posted on 04/18/2013 10:14:06 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

One of the networks said that there were many tons of ammonium nitrate stored there. Maybe 100 tons.


57 posted on 04/18/2013 10:14:47 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Gamecock

Ban guns! That is the least we can do to honor those killed in this senseless explosion. < /sarc>

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No, ban farming, GC. If it hadn’t been for farms, this never would have happened!


58 posted on 04/18/2013 10:17:44 AM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: butterdezillion

It may be my iPad acting up. Apologies.


59 posted on 04/18/2013 10:19:31 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Progov

I did not post those remarks and agree with you..infrastructure is on the AQ hit list. I read the stuff the terrorists wrote after we captured the info at Tora Bora. The AQ manual use to be on the FBI website..but the PC police took it down. They talked about hitting nuclear and chemical sites.


60 posted on 04/18/2013 10:22:43 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Slyfox
Seems Boston was a Saudi operation - and the 'poison letters' were written by guy from Memphis - a guy who's an ACTIVE Democrat ...

The press is NOT happy with that news. They wanted a Zimmerman - but one who really is white...a conservative. Someone they could hate...

Maybe the 'WACO' angle was to try one more time to trash American citizens who happen to be conservative...to give their press boys some hope of red meat... the left wing wanted a distraction - maybe... maybe... it was them who did this....

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Kidding - we don't know and I certainly hope it's NOT some fellow citizen - even if they are liberal...I was doing an imitation of the liberal press musing about it being done by the opposition political party.

61 posted on 04/18/2013 10:27:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Could there have been a massive fertilizer theft that is now covered up by the fire? No accounting whether there is anything missing or if it all burned or exploded.


62 posted on 04/18/2013 10:28:49 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Sender
One of the networks said that there were many tons of ammonium nitrate stored there. Maybe 100 tons.

I heard one Texas official on Faux News say it felt like a small atomic bomb went off. In 1947, they had a ammonium nitrate explosion from a ship in Texas city, Texas that leveled a industrial town of 15,000. The explosion flung vehicles through the air.

63 posted on 04/18/2013 10:30:20 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: GOPJ

The ricin guy they nabbed was pictured in front of a “I’m a Christian and a Democrat” bumpersticker.


64 posted on 04/18/2013 10:31:28 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin is smiling from hell)
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To: SnakeDoctor

It wasn’t a factory it was a storage depot. I doubt very much it was anything but an accident. I don’t think terrorist are smart enough to go after targets like this, and if they did they would wait till such things are moved to populated urban areas.(which is why theses things generally are not located in urban areas) Then you really would be looking at losses in the thousands not hundreds.

Just thank God the death toll was as low as it was, and pray that it stays that way.


65 posted on 04/18/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: butterdezillion

Excellent thoughts. Spot on.


66 posted on 04/18/2013 10:37:00 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Gilbo_3

Right before the major explosion, what’s the flash on the left hand side? (see #21)


67 posted on 04/18/2013 10:38:36 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: GOPJ
Kidding - we don't know and I certainly hope it's NOT some fellow citizen - even if they are liberal...I was doing an imitation of the liberal press musing about it being done by the opposition political party.

You do have a couple interesting points. Boston is a liberal bastion and the media is all over it like flies on Obama's face. West Texas is a conservative area and the media barely mentions it. Katrina did extensive damage to the Southeast and Texas, but the media set up camp in School Bus Nagan's front yard.

68 posted on 04/18/2013 10:39:48 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

That happened a few miles from me. Guy drilled a pipeline and sucked a bunch into his lungs. What a mess but no explosion


69 posted on 04/18/2013 10:42:23 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Monorprise

Didn’t know it was a storage depot. Local news in Houston has been calling it a ‘fertilizer plant’ ... which I assumed meant factory.

SnakeDoc


70 posted on 04/18/2013 10:43:30 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: Species8472

I heard the dispatch recording. The guy only meant the explosion was huge, not that a bomb caused it. That’s normal speaking for here in Texas. I’m confident it’s either an accident or some idiot messing around the factory caused it but no way was it terrorism.


71 posted on 04/18/2013 10:46:27 AM PDT by bgill
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To: nascarnation

I get an error message and have to click twice to get anywhere on FR.


72 posted on 04/18/2013 10:47:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Can't let crises not go to waste unless you manufacture some crises.
73 posted on 04/18/2013 10:49:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I am with you on that score. I trust the officials in Texas to give us the truth..unlike the Feds these days.


74 posted on 04/18/2013 10:49:56 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I am with you on that score. I trust the officials in Texas to give us the truth..unlike the Feds these days.


75 posted on 04/18/2013 10:50:01 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

I live near DC. There are aaaaaaall sorts of people here, and a lot of targets. I have not felt safe since 2001.


76 posted on 04/18/2013 11:06:06 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Communist media would love to find a white, right-wing, Christian terrorist as the cause of this explosion.


77 posted on 04/18/2013 11:10:43 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: lula
On April 12th there was a bomb found in Waco in a car. West is 19.4 miles from Waco.

OK. I'm talking about industrial facilities. If your mission is to inspire fear of your group, it doesn't work if you blow something up that is easily explained as an accident.

78 posted on 04/18/2013 11:13:28 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs

Good lord... Devastating. Just frigging amazing, the power of that blast.


79 posted on 04/18/2013 11:16:13 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: cincinnati65
ASSuming that the flash was the initiation of the BOOM ???

the fire had been burning for an hour, so i would imagine that it simply found a new fuel supply/flashpoint...

80 posted on 04/18/2013 11:40:49 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: redhead
"He said to the 911 dispatch: “A BOMB JUST WENT OFF IN HERE!” then asked for more assistance. It could have been an expression of the suddenness of the fire and its spread, but those are his exact words. Don’t know if it was retained in the official broadcast later."

Just saw / heard them rebroadcast the fireman's "bomb" comment.

I've been through West many times... that was one HUGE explosion!

81 posted on 04/18/2013 12:13:07 PM PDT by uncommonsense (more laws = more government = more coercive power = more crimes of consequence)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Place mark


82 posted on 04/18/2013 12:26:02 PM PDT by amom
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To: penelopesire

If you find that, can you post a link please???


83 posted on 04/18/2013 12:26:08 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Here is the animated gif that was slowed down. I tried to watch the one with the dad and his little girl (witnessing the explosion) and it just broke my heart to hear that baby scared.

That video has been debunked. That explosion happened a few years back, the little girl and her father were not witnesses to the explosion near Waco.

84 posted on 04/18/2013 12:56:34 PM PDT by calex59
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To: BarnacleCenturion

A fire caused the explosion. Not UFO’s..


85 posted on 04/18/2013 1:10:19 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: petitfour

Found the YouTube video here:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=LwWOabcpThg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLwWOabcpThg

Not sure how to search the FR archives but it was a ‘Primetime Special’ show and set up from the get go and it was done in West, Texas. We had a thread here because I remember posting in it in outrage. If you find the archive on FR let me know.


86 posted on 04/18/2013 1:19:23 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: calex59

Thanks.


87 posted on 04/18/2013 1:28:16 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: lula; Ezekiel
1. The Magnablend Chemical fire in Waxahachie Texas, Oct. 2011.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Mbw0eMWUA

2. The West Fertilizer Co. in West Texas, April 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkIchtI11q8

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88 posted on 04/18/2013 1:30:38 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHaY)
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To: penelopesire

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1976900/posts

Thanks for finding the video!!! I found the thread about it.


89 posted on 04/18/2013 1:38:41 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: BarnacleCenturion

It seems as though each time we have an attack, there is another bad event on its tail and that event is called an “accident” Remember the plane that went down over LI after the Trade center?


90 posted on 04/18/2013 1:42:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: petitfour

Thanks!! Be interesting to read it although I don’t think the West explosion is terror at this point. I do trust Texas officials to tell us the truth though.


91 posted on 04/18/2013 1:43:24 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: petitfour

Haha..no wonder I remembered it..I started the thread....lol!!


92 posted on 04/18/2013 1:46:35 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

Run a Google search on CAIR and Texas and their exclamations that they are above the law.


93 posted on 04/18/2013 1:55:34 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: butterdezillion
it’s looking like the Boston bombing was Muslim terrorism, and it seems like the powers-that-be knew in advance and are working to stall and/or get the perps out of town before anybody knows who did it.

And there is not a single honest individual with a conscience among those "powers that be" to rat them out?

94 posted on 04/18/2013 2:27:59 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Sender

Distant photo of the mushroom cloud at the West, Texas fertilizer
plant.

95 posted on 04/18/2013 2:34:34 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sender
One of the networks said that there were many tons of ammonium nitrate stored there. Maybe 100 tons.

"100 tons"? You ain't seen nothing yet!

On 21 September 1921 an explosion in a nitrogenous fertilizer plant near Oppau Germany involving some 4,500 tonnes of ammonium sulphonitrate fertilizer detonated creating a 90meter X 125meter crater, over 20meters deep. The official casualty report listed 561 deaths, 1,952 injured and 7,500 people left homeless. The explosion was heard in Munich, 275km from the plant.

On April 16, 1947, A French vessel the SS Grandcamp loaded with 2,300 tons of ammonium nitrate to be turned into fertilizer. Docked at the Port of Texas City it erupted in flames, causing a massive explosion that killed approximately 576 people and flattened 1,000 buildings in the city. All of the city's firefighting equipment was destroyed in the blast and 26 firemen were killed. A second ship at the port, also carrying ammonium nitrate, caught fire in the blast and exploded 16 hours later. With the destruction of the city's fire-fighting equipment in the first blast, Texas City was helpless to contain the damage of the second blast.

It was the worst industrial accident in U.S. history.

Accidents and human stupidity have created a long history of destruction through the improper handling of chemical fertilizers.

Regards,
GtG

PS Ammonium nitrate is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air) and when shipped or stored in bulk tends to clump together into a solid, concrete-like mass. Accepted practice used to be to bore holes and break up the mass using dynamite. Sound like a good idea to you?

96 posted on 04/18/2013 2:39:08 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
For those of you speculating about the cause of the West Texas explosion, ammonium nitrate is not all that easy to set off. It is widely used to quarry rock as it is fairly safe to handle, even when mixed with fuel oil (ANFO). The accepted practice is to use det cord and blasting caps to set off a high explosive (dynamite) in each bore hole as a primer to get the ANFO started. However, in large bulk piles of ammonium nitrate, if a fire starts and is not promptly extinguished, it is possible to get a spontaneous detonation. A fifty pound sack of 0-0-32 fertilizer is perfectly safe w/o the primer.

In the Texas City disaster in 1947, both of the ships that detonated were on fire for hours before they blew. The problem they had there was getting water on the fire in the hold of the French ship. The fire was so hot that hull plating was visibly glowing. By the time the second ship caught fire there was nothing left of the Texas City fire department to even try. Nether fire was controlled because ammonium nitrate is an oxidizer which means it liberates oxygen as it decomposes, allowing any available fuel to burn quite readily.

Regards,
GtG

97 posted on 04/18/2013 3:16:16 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Progov

Like oil refineries, these are GREAT targets of opportunity.

By blowing up this one it sure as hell caused a lot of devistation and loss of life. If YOU lived next door, you might think different.


98 posted on 04/18/2013 3:34:55 PM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for HONEST government)
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To: JimRed

Maybe the press conferences were repeatedly rescheduled by people who were trying to rat them out. Maybe Obama had to throw his little temper tantrum on TV yesterday in order to provide an excuse to not have the press conference, after the bomb threat to the precise place where the press conference was going to be had provided a temporary excuse.

Obviously I could be totally mistaken, but my gut tells me there could be a mutiny going on behind the scenes.

I’ve done enough watching and in-depth investigation on a couple different agencies that I know that at this point if there is anybody willing to blow the whistle on this regime, it is a major, major step forward.

You only have to look at what happened with Fast and Furious to know how many leaders in various agencies went along with that whole false flag operation, and how the whistle-blowers were dealt with - even though the purpose of the operation was for innocent people to be killed, in order to create an outcry for political gain. It’s sick and we’d all like to believe it couldn’t happen in America, but unfortunately it already has in that instance, and Benghazi is shaping up similarly. It’s the same way it’s gone with Obama’s eligibility.

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is big-time trouble. We’re past number three already, and at this point everybody ought to know what kind of regime we’re dealing with.


99 posted on 04/18/2013 4:55:43 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: penelopesire

“Prayers that this is not terrorism. If it is...none of us are safe anymore.”

So long as Islam exists, no one is ‘safe”.

Wrapping one’s self in the Second Amendment is the American birth right. Our responsibility to us and our descendants is to elect a government willing to honor the threat of Islam and willing/able to destroy Islam before it destroys us.

ISLAM DELENDA EST - Because of what Islam is
Because of what Muslims do


100 posted on 04/19/2013 3:40:41 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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