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Boston bombing update: The guys in the fedsí surveillance video probably arenít who you think
Hotair ^ | 04/18/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/18/2013 10:12:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The FBI is (finally!) going to release the footage that everyone’s been clamoring for later today. If you’ve read the New York Post this morning, you probably think you know who the guys in the video will be. You’re probably wrong. I watched an interview on Erin Burnett’s show last night with Fran Townsend (I think it was her), who’d seen photos of the suspects circulated by cops; CNN refused to air the pics but it was abundantly clear from her description that it’s the same two guys in the Post’s story today. If you followed Reddit’s marathon photo sleuthing yesterday, you knew instantly watching that interview who she meant. There were at least five or six different shots of them near the finish line being scrutinized on Reddit — one of them wore a white cap and bulging black backpack, the other a blue track suit with a sagging duffel bag. I went to bed last night thinking that’s who’d be in the video released today.

But apparently I’m wrong. The administrator of the Reddit sleuthing thread posted an alert this morning urging people to back off. Quote:

This is what you call a witch hunt media, for god sake.

The two males we’re talking about are the one in a black jumper/hoody with a white hat, and his friend in a blue track jacket. There are multiple news sites releasing their information and/or Facebook pages, this is disgusting and will not be tolerated here, no links to these stories are allowed.

Please report any posts regarding personal information on these two, they will be removed and the user will be permanently banned. All previous links to these two are being removed.

We are not waiting for them to be officially cleared, one of the men has contacted the police to try and clear his name. Please understand that the FBI now knows who they are, so our posts now have no purpose. If the situation changes then people can make new posts. It’s not our job to keep their information out there, people are innocent until proven guilty – not the other way around.

I can’t find any news stories confirming that yet but, given the site’s prominence, the Reddit editor may have been contacted by someone who knows something begging them to halt the speculation. I noticed that Newsweek editor Michael Moynihan was also tweeting skeptically about the two guys in the photo this morning and e-mailed him to ask why he thinks they’re innocent. Answer: He found their Facebook pages last night and says it seemed pretty clear from the volume of material about track and field, along with lots of other innocuous crap, that they’re unlikely to be the culprits. They were probably just there watching the race because they’re into long-distance running. Obviously he can’t be sure, but reasonable doubt suggests maybe not putting them on the front page of a major tabloid until the feds speak up. In fact, a reporter from CBS has already claimed this morning that the two guys on the Post’s cover aren’t the guys the feds are looking for.

And yet, these obviously were the guys in the photos being shown to the media last night, per the CNN interview. So why were cops spreading them around if there aren’t even the main suspects? Maybe there was a miscommunication with the feds, or maybe it’s part of an effort to run down anyone who looked even a little “suspicious.” From yesterday’s NYT:

The videos also showed at least a handful of others whom the authorities want to question, either because of what they appear to be doing in the video or their proximity to the blasts, a senior law enforcement official said…

The official said the authorities were trying to boil down the number of people of interest in the videos and would then decide whether to ask the public’s help in locating them…

The official added: “There are several videos with people in them, and we’re looking to talk to more than one guy. It’s still very squishy but there are a lot of interesting people” the authorities want to talk to.

According to the LA Times, there are two men on the surveillance video who’ve piqued investigators’ curiosity (“The men were singled out because of their demeanor and the way in which they reacted to the bomb blasts”), but as I say, they’re probably not White Cap and Track Suit. Those latter two were likely noticed because of their bags, their proximity to the blast site, and, let’s face it, the fact that they appear Middle Eastern. If the Boston Globe is correct, though, then the bags don’t match either. They claim that the surveillance video shows each man carrying a black bag; the bag carried by Track Suit in the Post’s photo is blue.

Anyway, we’ll know soon. Expect a new thread ASAP after the footage is released; I’m eager to see if the real suspects ended up in any of the photos online. Exit question about something that’s been bothering me for two days: If the bomb really was in that bag in the fourth photo here, how did it not dislodge the mailbox next to it? It’s a foot away and had enough power to take people’s limbs off. I know mailboxes are sturdy, but that sturdy? The bomb must have been somewhere else nearby, no?


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombing; boston; bostonmarathon; bostonmarathonattack; bostonsuspects; marathon; terrorism; terroristattack

1 posted on 04/18/2013 10:12:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

....the Odungo administration has released the red herring


2 posted on 04/18/2013 10:15:42 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SeekAndFind

Getting a lot of error messages today. “Remote server or file not found.”

Must be some loner white guy responsible.


3 posted on 04/18/2013 10:16:24 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw photos and footage and the point of this article is correct.

The guy I was most ‘interested’ in was wearing a coat that looked rather large or very well insulated. After the explosion, there appears to be a guy walking off quickly, wearing some kind of protective ‘jacket’ (was this under the large ‘coat’ ?) but his pants are blown off.

The second most interesting guy is the caucasian appearing guy with a beard carrying the backpack by it’s straps.


4 posted on 04/18/2013 10:17:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: HomeAtLast
Getting a lot of error messages today. “Remote server or file not found.”

You're not the only one...but a bunch of comments will soon follow that tell you you are...LOL.

5 posted on 04/18/2013 10:17:56 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...The guys in the feds’ surveillance video probably aren’t who you think...”

Interesting headline....who did they think I thought they were?


6 posted on 04/18/2013 10:18:30 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: HomeAtLast
Getting a lot of error messages today. “Remote server or file not found.”

I get stuck halfway between 'connecting' and the website, and it doesn't seem to be limited to any one particular website.

Probably due to intense traffic on the internet, and maybe certain sites.

7 posted on 04/18/2013 10:20:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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were they officially cleared and did they produce their backpacks to the cops? also what kind of bag was dropped by the mailbox across from the lord and taylor store?


8 posted on 04/18/2013 10:22:41 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: SeekAndFind

I can tell that the author of this article looked at certain pictures and made some erroneous assumptions.

For instance, the ‘bag’ by the mailbox was not black. It wasn’t the ‘bomb’. But it was ‘circled’ in red on 4CHAN, so I guess the easily fooled got fooled.


9 posted on 04/18/2013 10:24:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: SeekAndFind
We'd need to know the timing of the bomb sniffing dogs. Are there any pix anywhere of the dogs? Were there any dogs at all?

What if there weren't any? That bomb might have sat there all day. The package might have been dropped off the night before. Why would the bomber stand around? Why not drop it and leave?

10 posted on 04/18/2013 10:26:29 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SeekAndFind
We'd need to know the timing of the bomb sniffing dogs. Are there any pix anywhere of the dogs? Were there any dogs at all?

What if there weren't any? That bomb might have sat there all day. The package might have been dropped off the night before. Why would the bomber stand around? Why not drop it and leave?

11 posted on 04/18/2013 10:26:36 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SeekAndFind

12 posted on 04/18/2013 10:27:15 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: SeekAndFind
Like I said on a couple of threads a few days ago after dozens of detailed still photos from the 1-2 hours before the bomb blasts were posted on various websites ...

When it's a cool day in April at a major event in Boston and you're looking for young men wearing jackets and carrying backpacks or other bags, it's amazing how many "persons of interest" you find in those photos.

13 posted on 04/18/2013 10:27:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: HomeAtLast

I’m having trouble posting just one message...


14 posted on 04/18/2013 10:27:42 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: SeekAndFind

The lonely crowdsource
Reddit’s search for the Boston marathon bombers wants to be as secret as the FBI’s http://news.yahoo.com/findbostonbombers-subreddit-hypocrisy—145122346.html


15 posted on 04/18/2013 10:29:11 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That last question in the main article is an interesting one. After seeing some of those photos I’ve speculated that the bomb at that location may have actually been underneath the grating for the “tree well” — and may have even been partially buried.


16 posted on 04/18/2013 10:30:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: UCANSEE2

Also there’s a picture of ‘white hat’ and ‘blue suit’ walking away from bomb point #1 towards bomb point #2 and he does not have the back pack on! What kind of a ‘spectator’ puts his backpack down and walks away in that kind of a crowd?


17 posted on 04/18/2013 10:33:16 AM PDT by Justa
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To: SeekAndFind

It was the Arabian moslems. The Saudi in the hospital is connected to terror. He has 5 or 6 family members in Gitmo. The royal family rushing to the hospital where the guy was held, the Boston mayor being told by the feds there was an arrest then having it vanish,, and the royals getting him out of the country asap. Other royals meeting with Obama,, tells you all you need to know.

Obama bowed again.


18 posted on 04/18/2013 10:33:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeekAndFind

something isn’t adding up....didn’t both explosions happen in back of the fans? The videos clearly show that the brunt of the force is from behind. The barriers were pushed back by responders to get to the people down


19 posted on 04/18/2013 10:34:00 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Please keep ‘em coming! Thank you all very much!

20 posted on 04/18/2013 10:34:24 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: snowstorm12

The bag by the mailbox wasn’t the bomb.

The bomb was on the other side of the fence beside the tree.

It’s easy to see if you look at the after pictures.

The fence is wrapped around the mailbox.

Had the bomb been in front of the fence it would have blown the fence back away from the mailbox not wrapped it around the mailbox.

They are looking for someone that was standing/walking beside the tree.


21 posted on 04/18/2013 10:34:47 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody on Reddit got something wrong? Impossible!


22 posted on 04/18/2013 10:37:52 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Alberta's Child

We are so being hoodwinked by the government/MSM cabal it’s sickening.


23 posted on 04/18/2013 10:38:10 AM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: Mamzelle
I'm betting they swept it earlier and then went away. Came back when people started hitting the finish line and walked away again.....But there's lotsa people in the way. They sure didn't send the dogs into the crowd.

And the bombers watched....then moved....

We need better technology or we have to inspect incoming folks just like at a ball game. They would have gotten caught.

24 posted on 04/18/2013 10:43:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DesertRhino
[Obama bowed again.]

Bowed? He detailed the sheik's Rolls Royce.

25 posted on 04/18/2013 10:46:38 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Nope...right on top of the grate near the tree...that would account for that barrier bent around the mailbox.......

Folks were really engaged at that point.

We're probably talking 1 minute from the drop until the explosion. We're not good observers.

26 posted on 04/18/2013 10:46:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Perdogg

If my pants were blown up, I’d be running too.


27 posted on 04/18/2013 10:49:50 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DesertRhino

“The Saudi in the hospital is connected to terror. He has 5 or 6 family members in Gitmo.”

That is based on a single report by Walid Shoebat, which itself is, on its face, based on nothing more than the guy’s last name, Al-Harbi. Which happens to be one of the most common last names (e.g., clans) in Saudi Arabia. It would be like saying that John Smith is linked to criminals because there are a bunch of Smiths in prison. Without more than just the last name, it’s a pretty weak “connection.”


28 posted on 04/18/2013 10:52:03 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Mamzelle; Sacajaweau

I know they were used AFTER the attacks and did see them ‘going along buildings’ on TV yesterday.

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2013/04/ri-state-police-explosive-sniffing-dogs-assisting-investigation-in-boston.html


29 posted on 04/18/2013 10:59:11 AM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: SeekAndFind

30 posted on 04/18/2013 10:59:15 AM PDT by 11th_VA (DRONES DON'T KILL, CINCs KILL ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bombs probably triggered by remote control radio rayher than cell phone (they used radio controlled toys system)


31 posted on 04/18/2013 11:05:16 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Doogle

And why aren’t we seeing ANY photos of the 2nd bomb site before the blast? We’re being played.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 11:08:41 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: SeekAndFind
Please report any posts regarding personal information on these two, they will be removed and the user will be permanently banned.

It doesn't suffice to remove the post and warn the offending poster?

Not even to suspend the offending poster?

Perma-ban?

Is it just me or does that look like they protestith a bit too much?

33 posted on 04/18/2013 11:10:41 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting interview in the linked article on the battery in the photo. Turns out it’s not a mass market item, and is designed for RC cars. A friend and I have been puzzling over that sparsely populated circuit board. It’s just about right for something designed for hobbyist use.


34 posted on 04/18/2013 11:24:03 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: DesertRhino

The least we can say is that nobama knows which side his bread is buttered on. I would hate him to be an ingrate to take their money buying the election and then not return the favor when his Saudi friends need it.


35 posted on 04/18/2013 11:45:30 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: DesertRhino

The least we can say is that nobama knows which side his bread is buttered on. I would hate him to be an ingrate to take their money buying the election and then not return the favor when his Saudi friends need it.


36 posted on 04/18/2013 11:46:13 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: null and void

Sure came across that way to me, too.

Too many involved with trying to keep nobama from looking like the traitor he is.


37 posted on 04/18/2013 11:51:17 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: ArmstedFragg; Steve_Seattle
Interesting interview in the linked article on the battery in the photo. Turns out it’s not a mass market item, and is designed for RC cars. A friend and I have been puzzling over that sparsely populated circuit board. It’s just about right for something designed for hobbyist use.

This thread:

Battery Manufacturer Contacts FBI - No reply
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3009386/​posts
Was pulled.
38 posted on 04/18/2013 1:00:45 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: SeekAndFind

39 posted on 04/18/2013 1:08:19 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just heard a report on ABC radio news that the video the FBI will be releasing has not been previously distributed.


40 posted on 04/18/2013 1:09:35 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: null and void

“photos of the suspects circulated by cops”........”And yet, these obviously were the guys in the photos being shown to the media last night, per the CNN interview. So why were cops spreading them2

Are we certain these photos were being circulated by cops? From what I have seen they were circulated on various internet forums and the media. I don’t yet know they were circulated by the authorities.

Of course IF these pics were circulated by the authorities last night they may have since been cleared as suspects. That’s usually what investigations do; clear some suspects and build a case against other suspects.


41 posted on 04/18/2013 1:32:51 PM PDT by Scottishlibertarian
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To: lonevoice

Backpack.

42 posted on 04/18/2013 3:40:25 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

LOL! This backpack game reminds me of the nighttime/daytime bird:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8


43 posted on 04/18/2013 3:47:51 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: illiac

That twisted my mind a bit, too...


44 posted on 04/18/2013 6:24:37 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: DesertRhino

do you have a source about his family in gitmo


45 posted on 04/18/2013 7:06:12 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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