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MIT: Shooter On Loose; Officer Down
Atlantic Wire ^ | 18 April 2013

Posted on 04/18/2013 8:22:45 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks for the bump.


2,551 posted on 04/20/2013 6:20:28 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: MestaMachine; NautiNurse; nutmeg; anon; thouworm; All

Same thing here...out cold. Did lay there and listen to the briefing and noticed that none of the speakers did the liberal politicized thanking of the president thing that I heard. A refreshing change IMHO. I guess Elizabeth Warren did not get the smoke signal to be at the pow wow....lol.

I am astonished the perp is alive! I pray we can get to the bottom of the whole thing.


2,552 posted on 04/20/2013 6:43:24 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: okie01

Here you go... Guy on MSNBC that announced yesterday they were Turkey (and/or) Czech nationals must have got his info from a blog. (re the thread linked below) He was reading from notes when he said it live on TV. I was repeating what they said on MSNBC at the time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3010134/posts


2,553 posted on 04/20/2013 7:21:53 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: penelopesire; MestaMachine; NautiNurse; nutmeg; anon; thouworm; All

Here is an article I think you’all will be interested in

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2013/04/29/130429ta_talk_mnookin?mobify=0

The other night I jumped between this thread and this tweeter - Seth Mnookin

How times have changed from the olden days reading FR on dial-up. You guys did a great job!


2,554 posted on 04/20/2013 8:00:50 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ladyjane

Thank you for the link and all of your hard work in the thread. I will check it out. Watching the Glenn Beck radio program right now from Friday.i highly recommend my fellow FReepers watch it. It is time to wake back up to the Islamists in our midst. Most Freepers know full well what is going on, but this program is must see IMHO.


2,555 posted on 04/20/2013 8:17:43 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire; nutmeg; ladyjane; stlnative; AllAmericanGirl44; MarMema; All
Has anybody seen discussion or thought about logistics on Thursday night:

How in the world did two perps haul and load all of the pipe and pressure cooker bombs and weapons into a hijacked vehicle--after robbing a convenience store and killing a cop? Bombs which were subsequently tossed out of the vehicle during the ensuing police chase?


2,556 posted on 04/20/2013 8:45:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: NautiNurse

I’ve wondered all along that the person driving that car was a friend or an acquaintance of the brothers. You hear nothing about the owner of that car.


2,557 posted on 04/20/2013 8:58:31 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ladyjane
I noticed this about the owner of the hijacked car:

1. He wasn't killed.
2. Conflicting stories about whether they let him go, or he escaped at the gas station.
3. The perps used his debit card to get cash (apparently after he was out of the vehicle).

2,558 posted on 04/20/2013 9:05:10 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: NautiNurse; All

Interesting map. How did the perps get from point 2(killing the MIT cop) to the place where they hijack the Mercedes? Looks like a good distance. Did they ditch the car they had near where they hijacked the Mercedes? Have the cops located that car? If they had their own car leading into the hijacked car, they could have quickly loaded the arsenal from original car to hijacked SUV.


2,559 posted on 04/20/2013 9:09:03 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire
CBS story:
Authorities said after the shooting, the two men rode off
in a stolen police vehicle, then carjacked a man in a
Mercedes-Benz

Multiple stories describe the MIT cop was found in his vehicle. If this story is accurate, whose police car did they steal? This is getting more confusing.

2,560 posted on 04/20/2013 9:36:51 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: NautiNurse
How in the world did two perps haul and load all of the pipe and pressure cooker bombs and weapons into a hijacked vehicle--after robbing a convenience store and killing a cop? Bombs which were subsequently tossed out of the vehicle during the ensuing police chase?

That is a really good question, FRiend. I don't know. I admit that part of the saga is where I'm most fuzzy.

I just learned - via another FR post - that the #2 perp went to an ATM and got $800 from the carjack victim's account... first I had heard about that.

2,561 posted on 04/20/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: nutmeg

I heard they stopped at three ATM, but only one withdrawal was successful.


2,562 posted on 04/20/2013 9:50:11 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: NautiNurse

If we go back to your pic post #17 in this thread, I think we have our answer. He was not found in his car, he was lying dead in the street. Perhaps he was shot in his car, but he was not found there.

I could not look at it that night (just too timid) but did this morning and he bleed out right at that spot. The amount of blood on street tells the story.

What are your thoughts?


2,563 posted on 04/20/2013 9:56:32 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: NautiNurse

Interesting question. Did they have the stuff in more backpacks? Did they have help?

The MIT officer was shot point blank, they said his gun was still in the holster.

The story is that they did go to 3 different ATM’s.

Heard the theory that their getaway people failed to show up, which makes some sense.

There are definately more questions than answers here.

I still want to know more about the naked guy, they never talk about him anymore. Was he really just a poor sap who was at the wrong place at the wrong time?

And yes, I want to know who the car jacking victim is, what is the true story on that? Escaped vs let go -


2,564 posted on 04/20/2013 10:10:24 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Offended!)
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To: nutmeg
Every manhunt map I've seen shows the MIT officer was shot on the south portion of campus somewhat near the river. This coincides with the report that a 911 call at 10:25PM came in from a grad student in Bldg 76 (near the river).

However, multiple stories indicate Officer Collier was found dead in his vehicle near the location also described as the Mercedes carjacking.

Did the perps steal the MIT police car with mortally wounded Officer Collier in it and drive to the Stata Building location near Main and Vassar Sts, where they carjacked the Mercedes SUV?

2,565 posted on 04/20/2013 10:11:15 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: deks; amom

Thank you for taking the time to locate those threads! I’ll be re-reading them all now. From a quick look, it seems that the one with the live reports from the guy in his apartment across the street is MIA. That thread, IIRC, started before there was any media report of the hostage crisis.


2,566 posted on 04/20/2013 10:13:21 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I read a story this morning about the poor chap who was thoroughly humiliated, forced to strip and lie face down in the road. It was definitely a case of wrong place, wrong time when LEO were stressed in the heat of the manhunt.


2,567 posted on 04/20/2013 10:17:25 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

The naked guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. (He may have given the LEO some lip and...)

See this write-up written by someone on the scene

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2013/04/29/130429ta_talk_mnookin


2,568 posted on 04/20/2013 10:23:10 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: NautiNurse

yes... during the shoot out you can see that at least one of them was photographed by the guy in the apartment who witnessed the shoot out. In the photograph you can see one of them wearing a backpack. It is huge. If I run across the photo I will post it.

Police are saying they shot the MIT cop in cold blood. They were carrying the backpacks with them at that time. Were they going to plant the bombs at the MIT? Did the MIT cop recognize them as the 2 bombers from the photos that were just released hours earlier?


2,569 posted on 04/20/2013 10:27:03 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

my understanding is they did not rob the 7-11, that was an early report and was false. They were in the 7-11 but it was said they paid cash for what they bought.


2,570 posted on 04/20/2013 10:28:46 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Looking at the map posted in #2556, how did the perps get from point #2 to point #3 in less than 5 minutes while lugging huge backpacks full of explosives?


2,571 posted on 04/20/2013 10:36:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: NautiNurse

The younger kid picked up a auto from a body shop the day after the bombing. The body shop reported this. Maybe they had that body shop picked up auto with them. My guess is they were on campus with the big backpacks when the MIT cop stopped them. Maybe the got back into the body shop picked up auto they had with them and decided they better dump it and hi-jacked the Mercedes SUV.

Note.. the body shop auto was not done and was missing a bumper from it per the body shop owner. Kid still insisted he needed it and did not care it was not ready. They gave it to him unfinished.


2,572 posted on 04/20/2013 10:44:16 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

if you can recal the name of the guy that was up in his apt over the street shootout I can probably find the backpack photo. His last name started with a K something like Kitz____.


2,573 posted on 04/20/2013 10:48:05 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

Andrew Kitzenberg


2,574 posted on 04/20/2013 10:52:27 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

I found the pix - will post it shortly


2,575 posted on 04/20/2013 10:55:48 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

2,576 posted on 04/20/2013 10:58:01 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

Sorry that might be a LEO in pix... there is a pix out there of the hi-jacked car with many backpacks laying on the ground but that does not answer your question.


2,577 posted on 04/20/2013 11:04:39 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse

Owner: Bombing suspect demanded his car back from shop on Tuesday

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-nn-na-auto-body-shop-cambridge-bombing-suspect-20130419,0,2116032.story


2,578 posted on 04/20/2013 11:09:18 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

ugly ass auto... would stick out like a sore thumb!
Mercedes 1967 station wagon
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/1967_Mercedes_Benz_230_Station_Wagon_Fintail_For_Sale_Front_1.jpg


2,579 posted on 04/20/2013 11:15:44 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

I wonder where LEO located that vehicle. I seem to recall cops located the older brother’s car too. Don’t know where.


2,580 posted on 04/20/2013 11:32:05 AM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks. One less thing to struggle over! lol


2,581 posted on 04/20/2013 12:33:29 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Offended!)
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To: ladyjane

Thanks for the link. At least one loose end tied up!


2,582 posted on 04/20/2013 12:34:01 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Offended!)
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To: MarMema

Beautiful. Thanks.


2,583 posted on 04/20/2013 12:52:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If the oath-breaking politicians won't fear God, we can at least make them fear We the People.)
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To: NautiNurse

http://vk.com/id160300242

Very interesting stuff here...another FReeper just shared it with me. I had not seen it before, nor have I seen it posted...


2,584 posted on 04/20/2013 1:00:49 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: stlnative
I was repeating what they said on MSNBC at the time.

And, as is their fashion, they screwed it up pretty badly.

Not Turkey. Russia. Not Czech. Chechen.

See tag line...

2,585 posted on 04/20/2013 3:01:54 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Going back through the thread....wanted to give you kudos..first person to mention Chechens...good job!!


2,586 posted on 04/20/2013 7:58:43 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

The Russian flag at one of the bomb spots could have been a clue ...


2,587 posted on 04/20/2013 8:01:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: NautiNurse

check these out...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html#ixzz2R3tMQw6R

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3010362/posts


2,588 posted on 04/20/2013 8:21:53 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: MHGinTN

After the fact, saturday, of course. I was referring to the beginning of this thread, when the chase began and we did not know the perps identity. Folks were wondering how the perps being described as middle eastern could look white or be jihadi islamists. The poster I gave kudos to was the first to say the terrorist could be Chechen in the thread during the shoot out.


2,589 posted on 04/20/2013 9:53:53 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: All

adding this little tidbit about finding the shootout pressure cooker lid embedded in a car...

http://news.yahoo.com/boston-bombing-suspect-still-hospitalized-guarded-072110364.html

“We’re in a gunfight, a serious gunfight. Rounds are going and then all of the sudden they see something being thrown at them and there’s a huge explosion,” Watertown Police Chief Edward Deveau said Saturday of the melee.

The chief said one of the explosives was the same type used during the Boston Marathon attack, and authorities later recovered a pressure cooker lid that had embedded in a car down the street. He said the suspects also tossed two grenades before Tamerlan ran out of ammunition and police tackled him.


2,590 posted on 04/21/2013 3:24:02 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: onyx
Suspect 1: Mike Mulugeta

Suspect 2: Sunil Tripathi.

Where did you get this info? I thought I heard it on the police scanner. I also thought that I posted the name when I heard it. Now, I can't find my post. I'm wondering if I was too tired to recall correctly. Or, I'm just plain stupid. ;)

2,591 posted on 04/24/2013 10:20:22 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal...'cuz it’s yuckey and dumb'.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy; caww

I got it from caww.


2,592 posted on 04/24/2013 10:25:24 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: NautiNurse
One gun, these bozos only had one gun and killed the MIT officer just to steal his gun and couldn't even remove the weapon from the slain officers holster. The shoot out with hundreds of rounds going off was all handgun rounds with a single Ruger 9mm in the hands of the suspects. Nuts!
2,593 posted on 04/25/2013 9:47:41 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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