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Boston residents ordered to 'shelter in place' amid massive manhunt (the new 'duck and cover')
Newsday ^ | 4/19/2013 | AP

Posted on 04/19/2013 6:32:10 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas

Patrick said Boston residents should stay home and "shelter in place."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: disarm; in; place; shelter
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Gov. Deval Patrick directs MA citizens to "shelter in place."

Is his family "sheltering in place," or, IOW, cowering behind a locked door? Or are they protected by police armed with automatic weapons?

I know what I'd prefer.

But MA gun ownership has declined steadily for the last 10 years, because of a policy that allows town police chiefs to make it very difficult for citizens to own guns.

Massachusetts Gun Licensing Requirements

Over this same time period, the murder rate has risen dramatically.

Crime soared with Mass Gun law.

Deval Patrick is a moonbat woos, and Obama protege.

1 posted on 04/19/2013 6:32:10 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
telling them to duck and cover , after they the government disarmed the citizens there
2 posted on 04/19/2013 6:33:43 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Mary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I’m okay with the shelter in place but its not sustainable. In a few hours, people are going to be out and about. I give it until 4 p.m. today. If they don’t get the T going again, there could be some serious protests. And anyone who has ridden the T knows that it is full of young adults with back packs.


3 posted on 04/19/2013 6:35:09 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Democrat_media

Deval says “stay in place” but Barack said train for next year’s Marathon. What should I do?


4 posted on 04/19/2013 6:36:13 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Call out the militia!


5 posted on 04/19/2013 6:36:28 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Democrat_media

Betcha there are lots of Bostonians wishing they had guns.

And I wish they had guns also.


6 posted on 04/19/2013 6:37:34 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

In Texas, it’d be open season.


7 posted on 04/19/2013 6:38:26 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

All of Boston is basically a gun-free zone so there is basically nothing left to do but run away and hide.


8 posted on 04/19/2013 6:38:27 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“Patrick said Boston residents should stay home and “shelter in place.”

Hopefull with their weapons!!! :)


9 posted on 04/19/2013 6:38:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Mercat
I’m okay with the shelter in place but its not sustainable.

Yeah I understand why but agree it fails to be effective after a few hours.

My guess is that the animal has already left the area or has hunkered down to wait it out.
10 posted on 04/19/2013 6:40:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: massgopguy
Deval says “stay in place” but Barack said train for next year’s Marathon. What should I do?

Run in place?

11 posted on 04/19/2013 6:41:14 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

That settles it. I’m taking classes and applying for my CCW permit.

BTW, are these Chechen practitioners of the ROP?


12 posted on 04/19/2013 6:41:21 AM PDT by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

that is folking ridiculous, I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier, I am going on with my stuff. eff you po po and FBI and Homeland Suckurity, I will go out if I want to.


13 posted on 04/19/2013 6:41:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

As I watch this scene in MA, I am appalled at the helter-skelter procedures I am seeing.
I watch official vehicles, all with their flashers on, dozens of them, scores of them.
Reminds me of the scenes in Blues Brothers, where the police cars clog the streets, all in a row, chasing a single fugitive vehicle. Or like the LAPD response in Die Hard.
Then I see cops everywhere with nothing to do, bristling with arms and armor, it’s a carnival-like atmosphere. It looks like they’re enjoying themselves in their rarely-worn get-up. Most of them can be seen on their cellphones, talking or texting. All so very festive.
Overkill. Over-react; just the type of “stir-the-ant’s-nest” reaction I would suspect gets muslims off when they see us do it.
It matches the 24-hour news cycle speculative coverage on TV.


14 posted on 04/19/2013 6:41:29 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

If we learned anything from the Boston Bombing:

1) Every house should have at least one gun in it to protect yourselves from terrorists and or nuts on the loose.

Imagine yourself in Watertown knowing a kook is on the loose and you need to lock yourself in your house and you had NO protection?


15 posted on 04/19/2013 6:41:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The suspect is wounded and has a suicide bomb vest on. His brother was killed when he detonated his suicide vest while trying to take a police officer with him.


16 posted on 04/19/2013 6:42:34 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: DickBrannigan

Yes.


17 posted on 04/19/2013 6:42:46 AM PDT by madison10
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

If it was up to the liberals the people would shelter in place holding a water balloon in one hand and a toilet plunger in the other.

There is a war going on in the streets of Cambridge and Boston and they are to stupid to call in the military. Both would be dead by now.


18 posted on 04/19/2013 6:44:50 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Legal question to the Freeper community.

How constitutional is a “shelter in place” or “remain in doors” or “evacuate” order?

Can one legally refuse such an order?
How does one know when such an order is ... an order. As opposed to say a recommendation?
Lets say you were sick and needed to go to the doctor or hospital. Or if you need to go care for a sick relative. What if you needed to pick up medication?

Or the inverse

Government tells you to evacuate, you decide to “bug in” because you have prepped?


19 posted on 04/19/2013 6:46:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DickBrannigan

No Amish Missionaries.


20 posted on 04/19/2013 6:48:00 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Okay Boston, grab your scissors and whistles, you are under assault.

Good day and good luck.


21 posted on 04/19/2013 6:48:45 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

blue state epiphany?


22 posted on 04/19/2013 6:50:04 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Migraine
As I watch this scene in MA, I am appalled at the helter-skelter procedures I am seeing.

I know what you mean. Has everyone forgotten to call in Jack Bauer? /s

23 posted on 04/19/2013 6:50:16 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

And get your kitchen scissors ready!


24 posted on 04/19/2013 6:51:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mercat
I’m okay with the shelter in place but its not sustainable.

Agree.

I can understand the police wanting to keep traffic (both foot and vehicle) to a minimum so as to (hopefully) avoid citizen injuries if there is another shoot out, or if there are more explosives tossed by the remaining terrorist.

But people have lives they have to live - food to buy, kids to take to the doctor, jobs to get to. They won't stay locked in for long.

25 posted on 04/19/2013 6:54:48 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
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26 posted on 04/19/2013 6:55:34 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: baddog 219

Should have sided with Russia against the Chechens.


27 posted on 04/19/2013 6:57:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

People of Boston, Watertown, et.al,

NOW, as you huddle in your closets, hoping that the terrorist doesn’t choose your house in which to make his final stand, do you still believe that nobody needs a gun with a “high capacity” magazine?

Good luck. It’s all you have standing between you and harm at this point.


28 posted on 04/19/2013 6:59:26 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Thoughts:

Any citizen with a gun & TV in the Watertown area are probably locked & loaded.

Door-to-door searches could turn up more than just the terrorist. Police have more to worry about than just one man. Criminals & illegals in the area must be terrified. Good.

Dzhokhkar has a BIG problem. He picture is everywhere. If you look anything like him, you have a problem, too.

29 posted on 04/19/2013 7:03:21 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Da Coyote
Betcha there are lots of Bostonians wishing they had guns.

The irony is that the chase has passed through the most liberal, moonbat, anti-gun, coexisting, diversity-celebrating, towns of Massachusetts, Cambridge, Allson/Brighton, Newton and Watertown.

30 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:03 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Hide in the closet like good liberals while the bad guys who easily got all kinds of weapons despite all the gun laws go on a rampage killing at will. Gee don’t you feel safe in a gun free zone?


31 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:31 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: DickBrannigan
BTW, are these Chechen practitioners of the ROP?

Yes. Self-identified Mohammedan on his own Facebook page. I don't know if it's suspect 1 or 2.

32 posted on 04/19/2013 7:04:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

If they want you to stay in your house they should just say “stay in your house”.

Someone out there may not understand a hazy euphemism like “shelter in place” and the result will be somebody getting killed.


33 posted on 04/19/2013 7:06:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: taxcontrol
I think it's a strong suggestion, but not an official order.

It's the attitude that bothers me. "We've disarmed you, but, we wish you the best. And don't forget to lock your doors!"

34 posted on 04/19/2013 7:07:57 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Migraine
Reminds me of the scenes in Blues Brothers

Bingo!

35 posted on 04/19/2013 7:08:26 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The accompanying article say, "people go across borders and buy guns and bring them into our state,” rationalizes Boston Mayor Tom Menino. “Guns have no borders.”

I need help with this one. How can you buy a firearm in another state without a valid drivers license in the state where the purchase occurs? Even at gun shows in another state of your residence you cannot buy a fire arm. Am I wrong on this one?

36 posted on 04/19/2013 7:10:52 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: dontreadthis
blue state epiphany?

I'm hoping. I expect a lot of gun license applications in the next few days. Out-of-staters don't realize it, but individual police chiefs in MA have the authority to make it extremely difficult to get one. In many localities chiefs from surrounding towns have agreed to a no-licensing policy.

All unofficially, of course.

37 posted on 04/19/2013 7:11:13 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: 1Old Pro

When Obama was elected my husband insisted I learn how to shoot a gun and get my concealed carry permit. I am VERY thankful he did!

But at moments like these, I miss my beautiful Rottweiler the most. She was SO protective that if one of these nuts came to the door and she sensed I was in danger, her first instinct would be to “kill first, ask questions later.”

My dog now is a noisy, adorable, useless terrier.


38 posted on 04/19/2013 7:12:59 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

LOL, our Westie would handle them.

My wife said this morning it’s a good thing we’re protected and this town lock down is a huge boost to personal ownership of guns.


39 posted on 04/19/2013 7:15:30 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: baddog 219

Baddog 219, you’ve nailed it. When do we:

1) Start deporting all of these creatures, just to be on the safe side, and

2) seal off our borders as humanly possible?

Will this blue state wake up? Sadly, don’t count on it. There are many thousands of kool-aid saturated, stone minded libs here that you just can’t reach.

My ways would be decidedly draconian and I would have a lot to answer for once I met my Maker, but what is the price to keep innocents safe?

I drove up the street by the house where Martin Richard lived last night. It looked like an empty, sad place. How many similar homes will result from our lack of resolve?


40 posted on 04/19/2013 7:16:19 AM PDT by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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To: mosaicwolf
I need help with this one. How can you buy a firearm in another state without a valid drivers license in the state where the purchase occurs? Even at gun shows in another state of your residence you cannot buy a fire arm. Am I wrong on this one?

It is legal to buy a long gun in a state where one is not a legal resident, but it has to be transferred from a licensed dealer, at his licensed premises (can't remember if it allows for buying from a dealer at a gun show) with relevant NICS check and 4473 form done. The purchase and possession of the firearm must be legal both where purchased, and where the buyer resides, though I don't know if that is checked in any way.

It is not legal to buy a handgun in another state by any means.

41 posted on 04/19/2013 7:18:03 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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BTW, are these Chechen practitioners of the ROP?

Oh yes, and they are among the most enthusiastic practitioners of jihad.

Many have become mercenaries, fighting with the Taliban in AFG, with AQ in Irag, and training jihadists in Pakistan.

It is thought the Mumbai terrorists were trained by Chechen mercenaries.

42 posted on 04/19/2013 7:21:09 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: DickBrannigan

Muslims of the Caucasus are among the most radicalized Muslims out there. They are capable of stuff that would make Hamas jihadis say “man, you crazy.”

That entire area has been a war zone for hundreds of years, back to the days of the Tsars and the Ottomans. The Chechen Wars in the ‘90s were full of atrocities on all sides. Chechen and Ingush Muslims brought us the Beslan school massacre, the Moscow theatre siege, female suicide bombers blowing Russian passenger aircraft out of the sky, and hostage sieges at a hospital in Buddyonovsk in 1995 and on a Russian airbase in 1996. The sheer ferocity of the fighting in the Caucasus especially over the past 20 years is stunning.

}:-)4


43 posted on 04/19/2013 7:29:13 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: DickBrannigan
Start deporting all of these creatures, just to be on the safe side

An ex-SS Officer accused of various Nazi war crimes died in Detroit a few weeks ago. His US Citizenship was revoked in 1996. Yet he died of natural causes in his suburban Detroit home because absolutely no country could be found that would take him.


44 posted on 04/19/2013 7:29:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

My condolences on the loss of your Rottie. Have you thought of replacing her with a Great Dane?


45 posted on 04/19/2013 7:29:48 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I wouldn’t necessarily mock the Shelter In Place concept. It is a fairly well-established protocol that I am familiar with as a Evacuation Team member.


46 posted on 04/19/2013 7:30:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: taxcontrol
Lets say you were sick and needed to go to the doctor or hospital. Or if you need to go care for a sick relative. What if you needed to pick up medication?

You really want to leave your house with SWAT all around and risk getting killed? At a minimum, you'll end up on the ground and in handcuffs before they can sort out who you are.

You call the police emergency line, give them your address and tell them you have a medical emergency. They will get you meds, get you out (if they can, safely), etc. I have worked police dispatch during a situation with a guy barricaded in an apartment building .... black powder bombs, AK, etc. This is how it worked for those in the apartments who couldn't leave & who called for help - mom with sick kid, etc. .... dispatch relayed the situation to the command post & the police made sure they all got help.

47 posted on 04/19/2013 7:31:07 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: libstripper

I LOVE Great Danes! Unfortunately, we’ve moved to a condo where the association has decreed that “thou shalt not have a dog heavier than 40 lbs.”

We’re starting to look into buying a house with some acreage.


48 posted on 04/19/2013 7:40:41 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Lazamataz
I'd rather "shelter in place" with a gun trained on the door.

The Governor and other associated moonbats have us virtually disarmed here.

49 posted on 04/19/2013 7:41:26 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I'd rather "shelter in place" with a gun trained on the door. The Governor and other associated moonbats have us virtually disarmed here.

Understood and agree.

50 posted on 04/19/2013 7:45:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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