Skip to comments.Dead suspect: “I don’t have a single American friend, I don’t understand them”
Posted on 04/19/2013 6:51:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Tamerlan Tsarnaev died in a shootout with Boston police earlier this morning, perhaps killed by bullets, his own IED, or the fact that his brother Dzhokar reportedly drove over him in order to plow through a police barricade after the shootout. He will live on in a photo essay taken when he competed in Golden Glove boxing, thanks to photographer Johannes Hirn, linked by an alert Dave Weigel a few minutes ago. The accompanying interview raised at least a yellow flag about the isolation of Tsarnaev from his community in the essay titled “Will Box for Passport”:
Tamerlan, who studies at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and wants to become an engineer, took the semester off from school to train for the competition.
Tamerlan fled Chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early 90s, and lived for years in Kazakhstan before getting to the United States as a refugee.
Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: “I don’t have a single American friend, I don’t understand them.”
If he wins enough fights… Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia.
Tamerlan says he doesn’t drink or smoke anymore: “God said no alcohol.” A muslim, he says: “There are no values anymore,” and worries that “people can’t control themselves.”
Accordingly, Weigel and others claim that this is Tsarnaev’s YouTube channel (which I already posted in the main thread). It’s not confirmed, and there may well be more than one Tamerlan Tsarnaev, but if it’s his, a certain theme emerges almost immediately. It’s odd that Tsarnaev wanted to compete for the US rather than Kazakhstan, perhaps, where he might have fit in better; if this really is his YouTube account, it’s even more odd.
Update: Some are claiming that this is Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s Amazon wish list. I’d approach this with a grain of salt, but again if so, it’s certainly interesting. Quite a few items on making fake IDs, but they’ve all been on the list for almost six years. Not sure if I’m buying this.
Update: More from the AP on the background of both brothers, including this tidbit, emphasis mine:
In May of 2011, Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, then a senior at a prestigious high school, was awarded a $2,500 scholarship from the city of Cambridge, Mass., to pursue higher education. Now, Tsarnaev is on the run, described as “armed and dangerous” and suspected of the Boston Marathon bombing. …
According to the website spotcrime.com, Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009, after assaulting his girlfriend.
He was an amateur boxer, listed as a competitor in a National Golden Gloves competition in 2009.
Assuming that boxing profile preceded the arrest, that might be an inflection point for Tamerlan’s radicalization.
Update: Reuters reports that the younger brother’s website promoted Islamist websites:
Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev posted links to Islamic websites and others calling for Chechen independence on what appears to be his page on a Russian language social networking site.
Abusive comments in Russian and English were flooding onto Tsarnaev’s page on VK, a Russian-language social media site, on Friday after he was identified as a suspect in the bombing of the Boston marathon. …
His “World view” is listed as “Islam” and his “Personal priority” is “career and money”.
He has posted links to videos of fighters in the Syrian civil war and to Islamic web pages with titles like “Salamworld, my religion is Islam” and “There is no God but Allah, let that ring out in our hearts”.
you ever been there?
MA , Cambridge, Waltham, Watertown, Weston, Newton Boston etc are full of left wing nuts.
I guarantee that people gave these two sympathy because where they were from and kept harping on about how America is to blame and poor muslims are nice and being picked on.
The media are a joke, they keep mentioning how could they do this, they came fro the American dream, did they come here as sleepers at a young age.
The left media still does not get it , even after all this.
It so happens in a place which is ultra radical left wing which shouts tolerance and diversity
Do student visa regulations permit someone to take time off from school to pursue activities unrelated to academics?
bozo will be ordering to kill him so he does not have to deal with the courts, what courts, what charges, Gitmo.
Remember dead people do not talk and then bozo next week can get back to anti gun and pro illegal immigration
Here's a helpful hint for any other Tamerlans out there: instead of reading books like, "How To Make A Bomb", how about reading "How To Win Friends And Influence People".
RE: how about reading “How To Win Friends And Influence People”.
Interestingly, that was on his purchase list too according to his Amazon page (released by the company).
I am hoping that maybe this will lead at least some GOP senators to rethink about pushing this devastating immigration bill. We all should keep after them. We already have laws but need to have them enforced.
Shoulda been higher up on his list. Let this be a lesson to any other Talismans out there.
I was being sarcastic to a point. I just want them and all foreigners out. Go home.
RE: I was being sarcastic to a point. I just want them and all foreigners out. Go home.
They’ve been in America for over a decade.
At least one of the brothers went to Cambridge Rindge and Latin School ... where Oscar winners, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck went to school, according to reports.
The question now ... are these brothers — who have presumably been Americanized and living in the U.S. for years — considered domestic or foreign terrorists.
If you are not a citizen then you are a foreigner. It is time to remove the gray area.
Sir, you have JUST accurately described both Boston and MA to a tee!(a)
RE: If you are not a citizen then you are a foreigner
Still waiting to find out if either one of them applied for US citizenship.
Any immigrant can apply for citizenship after 5 years of residency in this country.
“..I dont have a single American friend, I dont understand them..”
Boston is the capital city of the diversity movement and a poster child of the radical liberal left - and a muslim terrorist couldn’t understand them??
I don’t think he needed a student visa. They’ve been here several years since they came with their parents. - about ten years ago. The youngest would have been 9 or 10 years old.
The youngest brother seems to have assimilated quite well into American life and was well liked in school. His coach spoke very highly of him and is in shock that this happened. I’m betting that the older brother radicalized him - through Islam, of course. :(
IMO applying doesn’t count. Being engaged doesn’t make you married.
er there is no question except put out by the left wing media I can’t believe the media is asking this but then again they are trying to change the facts and say it’s domestic.
They were foreign and terrorists, that;s a fact pure and simple
They haven’t been here for years. The brother on the run has only been here since late 2011; the deceased brother’s length of residence stateside I do not know.