Skip to comments.Dead suspect: “I don’t have a single American friend, I don’t understand them”
Posted on 04/19/2013 6:51:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I’m watching CNN and surfing the web.
I’ve read the the family had green cards, and as for as the info about the younger brother, his former high school coach and a friend from high school have been interviewed.
He was definitely radicalized by older brother, and I hope he’s realizing that, now, even if he will publicly say otherwise.
The engineering background seems to be common for Islamic terrorists.
But both are somehow REGISTERED VOTERS. This is infuriating.
Perhaps if he and his brother hadn’t spent all their time building up what now appears to be a huge arsenal, they’d have been able to socialize a bit with their neighbours.
How many other cells have been planted in the U.S. waiting to be sprung at some other place where crowds gather. Any holiday parade or festival, or small town high school football game attracts a sufficient number of people to ensure similar carnage using the same tactics. If the jihad comes to America in its full fury, we’ll be seeing a lot more of these types of incidents. While we’re watching the airports and ports, there could be hundreds of terrorists already in America waiting to spring. And there is very little that can be done to stop them.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is said to have lived in Turkey before relocating in Massachusetts and commencing studies at the Cambridge Rindge & Latin School.
His name is listed among the recipients of Cambridge scholarships in 2011 .
His page on V Kontaktye page the Russian equivalent of Facebook states that he went to school in Makhachkala in Dagestan, which adjoins Chechnya.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev speaks English and Russian, his profile states. His worldview derives from Islam, while his personal priorities are career and money. He is also said to belong to organizations supporting an independent Chechnya.
An online gallery of images assembled by photographer Johannes Hirn purports to show his older brother Tamerlan working out at Bostons Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts center where he practised boxing.
It quotes him as saying, "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."
After fleeing the former Soviet Union with his younger brother, Tamerlan studied at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and aspired to be an engineer, the photo gallery states, but took time off from school to train for a boxing tournament, the National Golden Gloves competition in Salt Lake City, Utah.
He drove a Mercedes to the martial arts center, the photo essay states, and usually didnt take his shirt off out of modesty, because "I'm very religious."
Tamerlan Dzhokar was also said to have given up alcohol and tobacco because he was a devout Muslim and "God said no alcohol."
The brothers uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, told CBS that his nephews arrived in the U.S. around 2001.
They do not deserve to exist on this earth, he said.
I just wished they never existed. I am wordless.
Their parents live in Russia, the uncle said.
Dzokhar was a quiet boy, Ruslan Tsarni said. He called Tamerlan a loser and said of his death he deserved it.
But the younger brother, who in the spring of 2011 received a $2,500 scholarship from the city of Cambridge, has been a nice, quiet boy," the uncle said.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev also left behind a YouTube file of his favorite clips, which included Russian rap videos and testimonial from a young ethnic Russian man titled How I accepted Islam and became a Shiite, the New York Times reported.
An AP file from the city of Makhachkala in Russia quoted the brothers father as saying his younger son, the fugitive Dzhokar, is a smart and accomplished young medical student.
"My son is a true angel," the father told AP.
"Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."
Alvi Karimov, spokesman for Chechnya leader Ramzan Kadyrov, told the Times the Tsarnaev family had not lived in Chechnya for many years.
In such a way, the figures who are being spoken about did not live in Chechnya at a mature age, and if they became bad guys, then this is a question that should be put to the people who raised them, the spokesman was quoted as saying.
According to the Associated Press, militants from Chechnya and other restive regions in Russias volatile North Caucasus have targeted Moscow and other areas with bombings and hostage-takings, but the allegations of involvement in the Boston Marathon explosions would mark the first time they had conducted a terror attack in the West.
The conflict in Chechnya began in 1994 as a separatist war, but quickly morphed into an Islamic insurgency whose adepts vow to carve out an independent Islamic state in the Caucasus.
Russian troops withdrew from Chechnya in 1996 after the first Chechen war, leaving it de-facto independent and largely lawless, but then rolled back three years later following apartment building explosions in Moscow and other cities blamed on the rebels.
Chechnya has stabilized under the steely grip of Kremlin-backed local strongman Ramzan Kadyrov, a former rebel whose forces were accused of massive rights abuses. But the Islamic insurgency has spread to neighbouring provinces, with Dagestan, sandwiched between Chechnya and the Caspian Sea, becoming the epicentre of violence with militants launching daily attacks against police and other authorities.
Militants from Chechnya and neighbouring provinces have launched a long series of terror attacks in Russia, including a 2002 hostage-taking raid in Moscows theatre, in which 129 hostages died, a 2004 hostage-taking in a school in the southern city of Beslan that killed more than 330 people, and numerous bombings in Moscow and other cities.
In recent years, however, militants in Chechnya, Dagestan and other neighbouring provinces have largely refrained from attacks outside the Caucasus.
The allegations of the Caucasus mens role in the Bostons explosions would reinforce long-held claims by Russian officials that insurgents in the Caucasus have been linked to al-Qaeda.
Live free or Die They chose the latter.
Don't lump everybody in the state into the same category. 48% of us chose anybody but Obama.
It is interesting how both young men lived here for so long and do not seem radicalized.
I wonder if they were part of a group led by the Saudi, Al-harbi, who is now under Obama’s protection.
Obama could have reason for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s death.
Classic predisposition for becoming a member of a mass movement. Self-sacrifice, self-annihilation.
Although I'd like us to be a Christian nation -- I know that is never going to be the case - until Christ comes back again. So non-criminal Buddhists, atheists, pagans, Hindus, etc, should be allowed in through the legal immigration channels. But Islam IS different. Their 'holy' book tells their cult to either convert, enslave, or kill those who won't join their cult. That is a fundamental difference from all of the other so-called 'religions'. Yes, there are whack-jobs amongst all people -- but when you have a group that swear allegiance to a book that tells them to destroy those that don't join, you have to have a death wish to invite them onto your shores.
I understand that many of us know Muslims that are up-standing and wonderful people. It is God's mercy that a large percentage of Muslims don't pay attention to their book - but unfortunately a lot of them do, and you never knows if the ones that don't (the ones that are wonderful today) are ticking time-bombs waiting to be 'infected' with that old-time religious fervor. Great when this happens to a person who becomes a Christian as they are changed for the better, deadly when it happens to a person who becomes a believing Muslim.
BTW, Your screen name is one of the greatest movies made.
Chechnyan MUSLIM sickos.
“Boston is the capital city of the diversity movement and a poster child of the radical liberal left - and a muslim terrorist couldnt understand them??” No kidding
Imagine how this murderer would have felt in Texas!
“I take it since he doesnt understand Americans he doesnt want to be friends with us rather than Americans dont want to be friends with him.”
I’m confused. Why was he in America?
This is the first reference to either suspect being Muslim.
All of the networks are spouting millions of words trying to tell the world hat is happening, but NOT A SINGLE WORD about what religion they might have now or previous.
More BS from the media, IMO.
We already have thousands of ‘immigrants’ who came here & have no real connection to the USA or it’s Constitution or it’s values.
Now, Obama & Holder & others want to bring MILLIONS more an amnesty and I am convinced that 11 million is waaaay off the real number. I think it is much closer to 55 million.
There was an article recently about how an inordinate number of terrorists are engineers or engineering students.
That should have been a tip off right away.
Arrest everyone at MIT immediately!
I’m sorry to say this but “our” side needs to learn how to politicize EVERY tragedy, just like the socialists do.
His parents brought him here when he was about 16. Why he stayed, who knows other than he was living the high life.
I totally agree and that is what I am doing in my circle of influence. Politicize this. Their policies lead to terrorism.
Never let them forget it.
The socialist will politicize dead children, before they are even buried, so there is no low too low.
RE: Arrest everyone at MIT immediately!
MIT? we’ve got hundreds of Engineering Schools in this country.
RE: There was an article recently about how an inordinate number of terrorists are engineers or engineering students.
That should have been a tip off right away.
I thought this country needs a lot more STEM college grads...
RE: BTW, Your screen name is one of the greatest movies made.
Yes and we can prop him up after he dies to scare the Islamists.... LOL.
“The question now ... are these brothers who have presumably been Americanized and living in the U.S. for years considered domestic or foreign terrorists.”
They are muslimes. . .’nough said.
Damned Amish White Christian gun worshipping....
He obviously didn't read it.
I see the religion of peace has struck again
The kid went to the same school where Ben Afleck and Matt Damon learned to hate America.
If Obama had a son, ...
I understand one of the brothers was registered to vote, so at some point he was naturalized an American citizen.
This is the face of the new immigrant. It is why all of the talk of "comprehensive immigration reform" is useless unless it includes the complete repeal of the 1965 Ted Kennedy immigration act.
Nearly unrestricted immigration of low-skilled people from the third world who will not assimilate, while simultaneously restricting the immigration of high-skilled people from the first world who do assimilate is as big of a part of the problem as illegal immigration.
He didn’t bave a singke friend in the US and didn’t understand us, yet looked forward to becoming a US citizen?
Go to hell and burn...
Amazing posts in here. NH wants to blame its ills on Massachusetts,as do many people on this thread.
I have news for you: I don’t care how conservative you think your state/city/town is, you aren’t going to be able to put up a wall to keep liberals out.
If you think sawing off the northeastern US and the west coast and allowing them to fall into the ocean is going to save you, it won’t.
Like it or not, liberals are everywhere. You may not have as many where you are as I have to contend with up here, but liberalism is like a cancer, and you have to be on the watch with your finger in the dyke 24x7. All they do is wait until you sleep for a few minutes and they advance a few more yards, yards of territory you will never get back.
And a keyboard isn’t going to keep them at bay. It would be nice if conservatives could fight battles together, but it is clear to me that isn’t going to happen anytime soon.
But, hey. Everyone likes to have a good scapegoat. It does make things easier. I used to scapegoat California. They deserve it.
I am still out on the uncle who did a press interview. How do we know that he is sincere and not overplaying his love of America? I am still in amazement how they could afford the lavish lifestyle and $$$$$education.
Cue the sensitivity of libs. “why didn’t anyone try to make friends with this poor guy? it’s our fault he did this.”
One became a citizen last year on 9/11, they may both have been naturalized citizens.
In other words, it's an unreliable blog.........
RE: You do realize that all the statements on the website you have linked to are based on second and third hand information don’t you?
Maybe, maybe not, we shall see. The younger brother has been captured and we will know more in due time.