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Brothers Tsarnaev: Clues to motives of Alleged Boston Bombers (Jihad)
Yahoo News/Time.com ^ | 4/19/2013 | Simon Shuster / Moscow | Time.com

Posted on 04/19/2013 11:32:40 AM PDT by Veto!

As police continue to search Boston for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old believed to be partly responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings along with his older brother Tamerlan, a key question remains unanswered: What motivated the brothers? Each of them has left possible clues online. Tamerlan, who was killed in a shootout earlier today, appears to have been sympathetic to Islamist radicalism.

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YouTube had video of Dudzhan calling for jihad. Holding a Kalashnikov rifle, he says, “Jihad is the duty of every able-bodied Muslim.”
1 posted on 04/19/2013 11:32:40 AM PDT by Veto!
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To: Veto!

Fundamentalism != Radicalism.


2 posted on 04/19/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by mvpel
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there are actually morons out there trying to figure out a motive???? they’re muslims, end of inquiry....


3 posted on 04/19/2013 11:33:42 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Veto!

The motive is obvious. See their indoctrination book for further details.


4 posted on 04/19/2013 11:33:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Veto!

What motivated them? As usual, the Christian hating leftist media is completely clueless.


5 posted on 04/19/2013 11:34:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Veto!

those who use this question should understand that if one lived up in Cambridge MA and other areas around there then they would be radical too.
It’s a cess pit of communism , socialism and racial left over 60’s hippies.


6 posted on 04/19/2013 11:36:04 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Veto!

Gosh, I can’t imagine what could have motivated a radical Muslim to throw bombs at innocent people. Must have been the Tea Party.


7 posted on 04/19/2013 11:36:56 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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8 posted on 04/19/2013 11:37:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: I want the USA back

This whole fiasco is a joke.
They only came to light after a failed car jacking the dopes.
They then get in to a shoot out and still one of them gets away.
Police from all counties and towns as well as feds are there, thousands of them and still they do not have them.


9 posted on 04/19/2013 11:37:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: raygunfan

Agree. The End.


10 posted on 04/19/2013 11:38:42 AM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: Veto!
This terrorist's name was Tamerlan. Now, where have I heard that name before?

Timur, Tarmashirin Khan, Emir Timur (Persian: تیمور‎ Timūr, Chagatai: Temür "iron"; 9 April 1336 – 18 February 1405), historically known as Tamerlane

(from Persian: تيمور لنگ‎, Timūr-e Lang, Aksak Timur "Timur the Lame" in Turkish), was a Turkic ruler. He conquered West, South and Central Asia and founded the Timurid dynasty. He was the grandfather of Ulugh Beg, who ruled Central Asia from 1411 to 1449, and the great-great-great-grandfather of Babur Beg, founder of the Mughal Empire, which ruled South Asia for centuries.

Timur envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan. Unlike his predecessors Timur was also a devout Muslim who referred to himself as the Sword of Islam, converting nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime. His armies were inclusively multi-ethnic. During his lifetime Timur would emerge as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Sultanate of Delhi. Timur had also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna; styling himself a Ghazi.[15] By the end of his reign Timur had also gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.

Timur's armies were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe, sizable parts of which were laid to ruin by his campaigns. Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.

On the other hand, Timur is also recognized as a great patron of art and architecture, as he interacted with Muslim intellectuals such as Ibn Khaldun and Hafiz-i Abru.

11 posted on 04/19/2013 11:38:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Veto!

> Brothers Tsarnaev...

So it is the Muslim brotherhood after all that’s responsible.


12 posted on 04/19/2013 11:40:24 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: raygunfan

Remember Barry’s initial speech? Perhaps he slipped up when he said that ‘we need to know WHY they did this’? What did Barry already know? The WHY only seems to be important when it’s a LIB doing the atrocity.


13 posted on 04/19/2013 11:40:39 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Jim Robinson

The media hope that this would turn out to be some disaffected white male were engaged in serious wishful thinking. Disgruntled “lone wolf” white guys have typically been behind mass shootings, particularly school shootings, and almost always end up killing themselves before capture. This type of bombing is the MO of jihadists who, contrary to the media spin, are not always engaged in suicide missions. There are hundreds of dead American and NATO soldiers who died at the hand of IEDs which did not involve a suicide attack. Chris Matthews and his ilk were hoping, beyond hope that this was some card carrying NRA member and were so blinded by their hatred of middle America that they were incapable of making a rational assessment of the facts.


14 posted on 04/19/2013 11:41:07 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Veto!

It p!sses me off the left always needs a motive for these things. Hey we know what it is Jihad.


15 posted on 04/19/2013 11:41:50 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: mvpel

Are you writing in C++?


16 posted on 04/19/2013 11:42:32 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: manc

2003 article on the High School the younger went to. (social experiment of “heterogeneous” (all levels taught same content despite ability) education. (Annenburg involved)
http://graphics.boston.com/globe/magazine/2003/0608/coverstory.htm
(teacher pictured appears to be the neighbor that was quoted about the upstanding young man)


17 posted on 04/19/2013 11:43:02 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Veto!

The name “Dzhokar” is interesting. He may have been named for Chechen separatist president Dzhnokar Dudaev, who was killed by a Russian guided missile in 1996. If this kid is 19 years old, then he would have been born in 1994 during de facto Chechen independence. I think that his family must have anti-Russian sympathies in order to name him Dzhokar.


18 posted on 04/19/2013 11:47:04 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Veto!

It’s the post 9/11 “ WHY DO THEY HATE US??? WHAT ARE WE DOING THAT MAKES THEM DO THESE THINGS?” anguished handwringing all over again.

Of course, if it really had been Tea Party people who did it, there would be none of this “search for motive” from the media. It would be nothing but “Conservatives: Threat or menace” all the time.


19 posted on 04/19/2013 11:48:49 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Veto!

in the released store video of them, there is a women in a yellow jacket with large backpack, could this be the girlfriend I wonder?


20 posted on 04/19/2013 11:50:20 AM PDT by Naplm
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To: Gluteus Maximus

To say nothing of the brother named for the Islamic genocidal mass murderer Tamerlane, famous for his “pyramids of skulls”.


21 posted on 04/19/2013 11:52:40 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Veto!

Still undecided whether this is Obama admin MIHOP or LIHOP.... will wait for further evidence but in the mean time are we allowed to call this an Islamic terror attack yet or is he forbidding to acknowledge any link for fear of upsetting his muzzie friends?


22 posted on 04/19/2013 11:52:56 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Expose Obama's radical agenda at every opportunity, or be enslaved by it.)
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To: Billthedrill

Yes indeed, but it’s good to see it in print in the leftist media.


23 posted on 04/19/2013 11:53:40 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Veto!

Clue? We do not need a clue, their motives are out there for the world to see. If the MSM missed the obvious than they need to find new work.


24 posted on 04/19/2013 11:54:49 AM PDT by madison10
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To: denydenydeny

Good point. It’s not that either of those names are uncommon among people of the North Caucus. Actually, Tatars, too. Names like Ruslan, Tamerlan, Chinghiz (Ghengis) and Dzhokar are quite common. But to name your kid “Dzhokar” in 1994? That was a political statement of some kind, very probably.


25 posted on 04/19/2013 11:59:50 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: machogirl

just saw his old friends interviewed and what a clown some of these people are, I think they look at this as a joke or something, a person who they can claim who they knew.

No wonder MA is a cess pit.


26 posted on 04/19/2013 11:59:54 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Veto!

Uncle is trying to minimize the Chechnya connection.That’s understandable but what’s not forgivable is the press parroting this. We are repeatedly getting interviews with students who knew them, particularly the 19 year old Jihadist,how this was such a nice boy, studious, etc. etc. ‘What led these two people down this path?’, it is asked on CNN. This is liberalisms sick and pathetic mentality. Must be a virus, must be our fault, must be his bad brother....


27 posted on 04/19/2013 11:59:56 AM PDT by Lent
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To: Typical_Whitey
are we allowed to call this an Islamic terror attack yet or is he forbidding to acknowledge any link for fear of upsetting his muzzie friends?

Interesting that the article was written by a Time.com correspondent in Moscow. They can apparently say jihad and terrorist there, but here? Guess I'll just have to call them Jihadis myself.

Should jihadi be capitalized?

28 posted on 04/19/2013 12:00:35 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: EEGator
I'm usually in C or Perl, I never much took to C++. It's just that I didn't bother to look up the code for "≠" when I was posting.
29 posted on 04/19/2013 12:00:51 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: mvpel

I’m actually coding in C right now. I’m writing a program for a PIC microcontroller 18F4620.


30 posted on 04/19/2013 12:02:47 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: manc

The People living in the Commonwealth of Mass. need to ask themselves some HARD questions.


31 posted on 04/19/2013 12:03:36 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: PGR88

“he interacted with Muslim intellectuals such as Ibn Khaldun and Hafiz-i Abru.”

What happened Hous Bin Pharteen?

MUCK FISLAM.


32 posted on 04/19/2013 12:05:19 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Veto!
He has a twitter page
https://twitter.com/J_tsar

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Makes a post to this guy day after bombing
ΔBDUL ‏@therealAbdul_ Protected account https://twitter.com/therealAbdul_

@therealAbdul_'s account is protected.
Jahar Jahar ‏@J_tsar 16 Apr

@therealAbdul_ #heavy I've been looking for those, there is a shortage on the black market if you wanna make a quick buck, nuff said..

------------- This was posted AFTER the bombing

33 posted on 04/19/2013 12:07:00 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: machogirl

they won’t , trust me I lived up there for some time sadly.

Look at the background of the TV screen and men look like girls, women look boyish with their short hair and there are so many freaks.
They are so brainwashed into thinking MA is America or it should be like MA.

The state is awashed with 60’s radicals, lots of colleges, hundreds of thousands of students and union members.

Their media channels 4, 5, 7, 25 twist the facts to suit their agenda and then the sheep there think it;sthe truth


34 posted on 04/19/2013 12:08:38 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Veto!

MOTIVE of islamic terrorists... KILL INFIDELS!
IDIOT journolistas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To muzzies... Infidels are NOT innocent people but enemies of satan who is the god.

LLS


35 posted on 04/19/2013 12:15:23 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Sorry... that should be “their god”.

LLS


36 posted on 04/19/2013 12:15:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Silence!!!.....I KEEEEL You!!!!”


37 posted on 04/19/2013 12:16:42 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet (Uranus)
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To: Veto!
Want a clue? Try who the parents named their 1st born son after:
From Amazon's description of the book:
"He blazed through Asia, razing cities to the ground. He tortured conquered inhabitants without mercy, sometimes ordering them buried alive, at other times decapitating them. Over the ruins of conquered Baghdad {before its "conversion" to Islam}, Tamerlane had his soldiers erect a pyramid of 90,000 enemy heads. As he and his armies swept through Central Asia, sacking, and then rebuilding cities, Tamerlane gradually imposed an {Islamic} iron rule..."
Would Israel have granted asylum to German parents parents who named their 1st born child Hitler?
38 posted on 04/19/2013 12:17:58 PM PDT by drpix
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Good example. Also at Amazon, perp’s wish list, which shows his interest in crime and intention to become a criminal: http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

I found this at Slate, where they say he “never had American friends.”http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/19/tamerlan_tsarnaev_dead_bombing_suspect_i_don_t_have_a_single_american_friend.html


39 posted on 04/19/2013 12:34:04 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: drpix

And we can probably thank the Jihad perpetrated by the Ottoman and Safavid empires for bringing their stinking religion to these people.


40 posted on 04/19/2013 12:41:41 PM PDT by Lent
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To: Veto!

They are a couple of expendable losers. Cannon fodder. Question is: Who sent them into action and why?

This kind of thing has been doable since 9-11. I wonder how July 4th is going to go this year?


41 posted on 04/19/2013 1:05:43 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Veto!

Motives?
Since when do muslims have motives other than just “because”?


42 posted on 04/19/2013 1:17:55 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: Veto!

With a name like Tamerlane

And the media wonders their motivation


43 posted on 04/19/2013 1:33:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Veto!
Suicide by cop. These 'supposed' geniuses plan multiple bombings yet fail to take any measures to disguise themselves. Despite every person in America knowing that there are often video surveillance systems externally in parts of major cities (like this) they parade openly assuming what??? That the crowds will hide them????

They have no escape plan. Have not secreted money, guns and additional disguises in key locations. Have not created false identities, have not covered their internet tracks, have created plausible alibis for their time. They then commit brazen inner-city crimes on the run. They have not prepared a safe house or appear to have muslim confederates ready to take them to ground.

They get involved in a shootout with police yet they do not appear to over-whelming fire power or any kind of protective gear.

I think you have to assume this was a zero-sum game for these two morons. I assume the one on the run is just buying some additional time but I suspect he will not surrender. I think the whole point was to die a martyr. Suicide by cop.

44 posted on 04/19/2013 1:52:03 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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in the released store video of them, there is a women in a yellow jacket with large backpack, could this be the girlfriend I wonder?

I'm still curious about this pic, I think it's a girl.


45 posted on 04/19/2013 2:04:18 PM PDT by txhurl
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“Motives.” They are Muslims!


46 posted on 04/19/2013 2:07:05 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Veto!
a key question remains unanswered: What motivated the brothers?

Yahoo! = Liberal idiots

47 posted on 04/19/2013 2:12:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Doc Savage

Then they went home. How stupid was that? But the one on the lam is apparently still alive. So perhaps he did have a plan.

No telling what motivated them. Jihadis are all nuts.


48 posted on 04/19/2013 2:43:44 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: BuffaloJack

There are the promised 72 virgins.


49 posted on 04/19/2013 2:49:55 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: machogirl

Ted Kennedy with his influence over the Immigration Act’s changes played a large part in this non Christian USA.


50 posted on 04/19/2013 5:40:29 PM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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