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No Miranda rights for now for bombing suspect
Politico ^

Posted on 04/19/2013 8:43:06 PM PDT by chessplayer

The Boston Marathon bombing suspect captured Friday night will not be immediately read his Miranda rights, a Justice Department official said.

The announcement came as a debate broke out among lawmakers, lawyers and political activists over whether the suspect, Dzhokar Tsarnaev, should be prosecuted in a civilian criminal court or subjected to military interrogation and over when and whether Tsarnaev should be told about his right to an attorney.

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Well, that pretty much does it. If any of the authorities asked him any questions, he walks free because there is no way in hell he will be tried by the military. Way to go, Holder!
1 posted on 04/19/2013 8:43:06 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

2 posted on 04/19/2013 8:44:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: chessplayer

I saw several reports he was just mirandized. They didn’t do it initially but was he conscious or coherent when they first arrested him? I think the reports were just jumping the gun.


3 posted on 04/19/2013 8:44:48 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: chessplayer

Waterboard his ass...


4 posted on 04/19/2013 8:47:22 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: chessplayer

And if he choses not to talk? - how are we going to get all that valuable information about how this came about and who else is in it with him that all the talking heads are slobbering over? - will we finally decide that maybe torture can be used after all? - should be interesting........


5 posted on 04/19/2013 8:48:26 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

If White Cap is sent to Gitmo, will Obama visit him there?

Here I assume that Gitmo has a golf course - - - .


6 posted on 04/19/2013 8:49:02 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: mnehring

I don’t care he is a terrorist, that should trump anything, period! Ship his a** to Gitmo and break out the water and boards, I’m okay with cattle prods, bamboo slivers, you name it, I’m good with it.


7 posted on 04/19/2013 8:49:24 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: neodad

“Waterboard his ass...”

He belongs in gitmo and the people of Boston need to speak out.

Boy, wouldnt that wad up Bambi and the lefts collective panties.


8 posted on 04/19/2013 8:49:49 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: chessplayer

“Well I’m all broken up about that man’s rights......”


9 posted on 04/19/2013 8:56:13 PM PDT by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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To: Mastador1

From what I understand the Government can’t send an American citizen to gitmo and this piece of excrement is an American citizen albeit by naturalization. Unless the government revokes his citizenship he can’t be interned at gitmo and his citizenship can’t be revoked until he is convicted. Catch 22


10 posted on 04/19/2013 9:00:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

(Cop Killer + jihadi)/ ((short rope-tall tree)*USA resolve))=problem solved


11 posted on 04/19/2013 9:00:41 PM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: chessplayer

He, as much as we despise it, is an American Citizen that committed terrorism on American soil.

How long until they label freepers as terrorists and take away our rights as well?

Sorry, but I don’t agree with the majority here on this. Obama has grabbed too much power for the FEDS as it is to suit me.


12 posted on 04/19/2013 9:03:27 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Graewoulf

Almost all military and naval bases have a golf course of some kind, even tiny Camp Red Cloud in Korea where I was stationed in the 70's. Guantanamo has a nine hole course, as you can see above.

13 posted on 04/19/2013 9:07:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: chessplayer

BREAKING: NBC Reporting that Suspect #2 has been Mirandized by the FBI

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3010038/posts

They Mirandized him .... They Mirandized him not

They Mirandized him .... They Mirandized him not

They Mirandized him .... They Mirandized him not

They Mirandized him .... They Mirandized him not

They ....................


14 posted on 04/19/2013 9:07:49 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: chessplayer

Do you know Miranda?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61nYwoswwyI


15 posted on 04/19/2013 9:11:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: chessplayer
He's a US citizen--so he should already know about his right not to say anything.

How many people were put to death for their complicity in 9/11? or in the World Trade Center bombing of 1993? or in the attack on Waco in 1993? (oops--scratch that--that would be Holder, Reno, Bill and Hillary).

10 years from now Tsarnaev will be either still waiting for his case to be heard, or filing appeals from the verdict.

16 posted on 04/19/2013 9:16:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Two things have to be present for Miranda to be applicable. Hollywood never gets this right. First is a custodial situation, under arrest or not free to leave. Second is interrogation. If both do NOT apply, then no Miranda is needed. If they arrest him and have no plans to talk to him, no Miranda. Or if as reported, he really is in no condition to chat, no real need for Miranda yet. I bet this kid gets a printed out version for him to sign and likely a videotaping of the event just to make double sure.


17 posted on 04/19/2013 9:17:39 PM PDT by ScottinSacto
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To: chessplayer

He doesn’t have to be Mirandized as it clearly falls under a Miranda exception of public safety concerns.


18 posted on 04/19/2013 9:23:04 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: chessplayer

Typical Politicol garbage. It has already been reported that he was advised of his Miranda rights.


19 posted on 04/19/2013 9:26:57 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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“He doesn’t have to be Mirandized as it clearly falls under a Miranda exception of public safety concerns.”

US Attorney Carmen Ortiz stated exactly that at the press conference.


20 posted on 04/19/2013 9:26:58 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: doc1019
From what I understand the Government can’t send an American citizen to gitmo and this piece of excrement is an American citizen albeit by naturalization. Unless the government revokes his citizenship he can’t be interned at gitmo and his citizenship can’t be revoked until he is convicted. Catch 22

As an "enemy combatant", however, Tsarnaev can be tried in a military court.

21 posted on 04/19/2013 9:28:10 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: publana
He, as much as we despise it, is an American Citizen that committed terrorism on American soil.

How long until they label freepers as terrorists and take away our rights as well?

I agree.

This is a slam dunk, but most of the time the situation isn't as clear. And as they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

22 posted on 04/19/2013 9:28:24 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Mastador1

I’d ship him to Israel. They’ll get it out of him.


23 posted on 04/19/2013 9:29:22 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: okie01

So true and I hope that is what happens.


24 posted on 04/19/2013 9:30:01 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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Freepers, your Contributions make every difference!
Please keep ‘em coming! Thank you all very much!

25 posted on 04/19/2013 9:39:29 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: doc1019

okay then let’s go with .22,.223,.30,.30/06,.308,.45,.50. I understand quite well that what I want and what I can have are not the same, I’m not a Democrat.


26 posted on 04/19/2013 10:19:44 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: neodad

Waterboard his ass...

ditto


27 posted on 04/19/2013 10:20:47 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Mastador1

And I sure as hell am not a liberal nor a democrat. I am a registered Republican and died in the wool American. Who, if the Republican don’t get their collective sh$te together will vote independent in the next election.


28 posted on 04/19/2013 10:28:23 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: publana

“He, as much as we despise it, is an American Citizen that committed terrorism on American soil.”

Not so fast. Did he tell they truth, under oath, at his naturalization ceremony? If he did not tell the truth, is he a citizen?


29 posted on 04/19/2013 10:29:58 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: neodad

Waterboard his ass...

Right, a good high colonic will make him talk!


30 posted on 04/19/2013 11:35:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
10 years from now Tsarnaev will be either still waiting for his case to be heard, or filing appeals from the verdict.

He can grow a beard and avoid any trial indefinitely.

31 posted on 04/19/2013 11:40:26 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Stormdog
“He doesn’t have to be Mirandized as it clearly falls under a Miranda exception of public safety concerns.”

Absolutely correct.

However, he can still invoke voluntarily.

I always advise invoking - whether under arrest or just being questioned. Before the cops even get a chance to say anything, you state that you want legal representation. Then, they can't talk to you.

32 posted on 04/19/2013 11:48:02 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: chessplayer

The best outcome would be to let him walk.
He might make it down the courthouse steps, might.


33 posted on 04/20/2013 4:42:39 AM PDT by Vinnie
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“I always advise invoking”

That bears repeating.


34 posted on 04/20/2013 6:15:15 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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