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Christie proposes measures to curb gun violence
Associated Press ^ | Apr 19, 2013 5:53 PM EDT | Angela Delli Santi

Posted on 04/20/2013 1:01:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Gov. Chris Christie on Friday unveiled a multi-faceted plan to curb gun violence in New Jersey that includes expanding government-funded mental health treatment, requiring parental sign-off before children can buy or rent violent video games, and mandating that ID presented by would-be gun-owners is government-issued.

The Republican’s plan also includes a ban on the sale of Barrett .50-caliber semi-automatic sniper rifles, bail reforms that would make it harder for people suspected of violent gun crimes to be released, and provisions to make it easier for courts and health care professionals to involuntarily commit people they consider violent to a psychiatric hospital.

The plan does not address classroom security or propose stricter limits on the capacity of ammunition magazines, which in New Jersey stands at 15 rounds. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; chrischristie; guncontrol; rino; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/20/2013 1:01:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
The Republican's plan also includes a ban on the sale of Barrett .50-caliber semi-automatic sniper rifles,

How many people have actually been shot with a Barrett .50?

2 posted on 04/20/2013 1:08:34 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

Thank God they outlawed those Barrett 50 Calibers here in Commiefornia.

After all, there were ZERO Crimes ever committed using a Barrett, but you never know when a Teenage Muslim might get a hold of one...

Just when you think even Liberals and RINOS can’t be that stupid, your worst fears are realized.

I think Christie wants them outlawed because it’s the only Rifle powerful enough to take down such a big hulking mass.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 1:11:31 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Olog-hai
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4 posted on 04/20/2013 1:21:30 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matater of Opinion)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I’ve never heard of one used in a crime.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 1:22:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s hard to imagine a fascist toilet like New Jersey still has any more “gun control” measures left to pursue. I think Governor Pork Porkie is just trying to burnish his resume with the Democrats he hopes will nominate him for their 2016 presidential ticket. Maybe he can get Ann Coulter to campaign for him.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 1:29:10 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Olog-hai
The Republican’s plan also includes a ban on the sale of Barrett .50-caliber semi-automatic sniper rifles

I'd like to see how it could get around United States v. Miller.

The plan does not address classroom security

Of course not, why solve the actual problem when you can ban things that aren't used in crimes??

7 posted on 04/20/2013 1:33:29 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai
.50 caliber crime? Not so much
8 posted on 04/20/2013 1:39:00 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

>> The Republican’s plan also includes a ban on the sale of Barrett .50-caliber semi-automatic sniper rifles,

What a bunch of #ing anal douche bags.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 1:42:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

>> I’ve never heard of one used in a crime.

Exactly.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 1:44:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Olog-hai

More gubmint control and expansion and intrusion into our business. No thank you very much. The communist leader class just doesn’t get it.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 1:51:09 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: exnavy

Gonna make it illegal to shoot moose-limb terrorists.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 2:05:18 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Olog-hai

So what happened to the “Christie for Prez” crowd around here? They hanging around with the “Scott Brown for Prez” crowd?


13 posted on 04/20/2013 2:05:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
So what happened to the “Christie for Prez” crowd around here? They hanging around with the “Scott Brown for Prez” crowd?

They are busy reading some Ann Coulter drivel.

14 posted on 04/20/2013 2:08:28 AM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Olog-hai

Why Barrett? There’s other brands. Does Krispy have something against guns manufactured in Tennessee?


15 posted on 04/20/2013 2:17:37 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Gene Eric

Things just seem to get worse every election cycle, the way it’s going now Bloomberg will be back claiming to be a republican again.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 2:23:44 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I’ve never heard of one used in a crime.

The pols want to get rid of them because they can punch right through limo, from any direction.
Thinking of their own safety, as usual.

17 posted on 04/20/2013 2:42:25 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

Back prior to 1968 I owned a share of a Boys antitank rifle, even hotter than .50BMG. Shot down a few trees, never tried it on a limo.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 2:48:20 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Vince Ferrer

In America? zero as far as I know.


19 posted on 04/20/2013 2:48:35 AM PDT by RC one (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Olog-hai

20 posted on 04/20/2013 2:57:30 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Olog-hai

As a guy who lives here and has to deal with the nonsense of New Jersey gun laws, it could have been a LOT worse. I know the radical extreme bills the maniac Democrats in Trenton have been introducing. Christie’s proposals are mild - very mild. On the face of what I see, I can live with them until I can afford to escape from here.

Political dynamics in this state are such that the Democrats control the Legislature as they control the masses of urban “minority” voters - mainly Democrat - in Mercer, Camden, Essex, Middlesex, Hudson, Passaic and Union County.

If Christie doesn’t veto those bills they are pushing and this indicates he will, New Jersey would become Washington D.C. on a massive scale.

Clearly he is trying to position himself for a Presidential run and clearly he recognizes our power on the National Stage.

If anyone is interested in what those maniac Trenton Democrats ARE trying to present, I’ll be more than willing to enlighten them.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 3:15:17 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Vinnie

Its merely a sop to the Democrats. In reality, how many people own one? Its not that I support such a ban - clearly its nonsense. But it is a political sop.

You have to realize that in this benighted state, even Republicans are often anti-gun. I wish we had Wyoming’s gun laws or even Pennsylvania’s, but the reality is we don’t and probably never will, which is why I want to get the hell out of here.

Some of the more onerous things the Dems were proposing were magazine bans like Cuomo’s, the right to enter your home to see that your guns are secure, requiring periodic mental health checks, renewals of firearms purchasers permits periodically, on and on and on.

Like I said, this APPEARS milder than ANYTHING being proposed.


22 posted on 04/20/2013 3:21:29 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Ha! Not a one.


23 posted on 04/20/2013 3:37:48 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Vince Ferrer

It is not a matter of how many people have been shot with the Barrett .50-caliber, but who the potential targets could be. This sniper rifle could be zeroed in from several blocks away at a speaker on an elevated platform, a potential assassination, and this prospect frightens many of our government officials to the core.


24 posted on 04/20/2013 3:38:49 AM PDT by alloysteel (Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.)
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To: Olog-hai

Do they have statistics which give the number of crimes that involve guns as committed by, and committed upon, Blacks, Whites and Latinos?


25 posted on 04/20/2013 3:43:04 AM PDT by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: Timber Rattler

There stuck in the back of the Rubio for Prez bus.


26 posted on 04/20/2013 3:43:14 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 ("as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.")
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To: ZULU

The mental health portion is where the focus needs to be.

The libs/ACLU turned out the mental patients on the public.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 3:46:55 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Olog-hai

More RINO horse sh*t from Christie.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 3:49:02 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Olog-hai

What an a$$hole. Nothing in his “plan” will stop violence.


29 posted on 04/20/2013 3:55:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rlk0gRiroE

What about the new S&W 50 caliber pistol? I think that politicians get together a focus group and look for bullet points that make it sound like they’re leaders. Who, though, is Christie trying to appeal to? Are there Christie Democrats who want a fat liberal Republican over a liberal Democrat? Are there Republicans who just want a little bit of “common sense” infringement on their Constitutional rights?


30 posted on 04/20/2013 3:58:05 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Vince Ferrer

Elites are especially afraid of the Barrett since a .50 can punch through an armored limo, and a sniper can hit a VIP from well outside his security perimeter. They are not trying to protect us, they are trying to protect themselves.


31 posted on 04/20/2013 4:04:59 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Hold the pig steady)
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To: Gen.Blather

Who, you ask, is Christie trying to appeal to?

The Newsies. They LUUUUUUV any and all “gun control”. That’s my call. Democrats nor Republicans have much reason to follow him. But if he can get a halfway decent press...

Then there might be hope for him, yet.

And it could be merely a defensive political posture. Just to keep his bona fides with the Newsies, so he won’t be lumped in with that horrible Ted Cruz/Rand Paul type of Republican...


32 posted on 04/20/2013 4:12:10 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: alloysteel
"It is not a matter of how many people have been shot with the Barrett .50-caliber, but who the potential targets could be. This sniper rifle could be zeroed in from several blocks away at a speaker on an elevated platform, a potential assassination, and this prospect frightens many of our government officials to the core."

So can the nearest hunting rifle. This is the feeding the crocodile so you will be eaten last strategy.

33 posted on 04/20/2013 4:12:14 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Vince Ferrer

I think zero people have been shot with that rifle. It must be a manhood thing with liberals.


34 posted on 04/20/2013 4:25:01 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: ZULU

I had a chance to buy one before they were banned, but at 3,000 dollars I couldn’t justify buying it.


35 posted on 04/20/2013 4:28:14 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Olog-hai

The New Joisey mafia, and the street thugs, are sure going to abide by these new gun laws.


36 posted on 04/20/2013 4:45:12 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Vinnie

True.

But we need to be CAREFUL there - VERY CAREFUL.

One of the routes the anti-gunners are considering is requiring periodic mental health check-ups by a shrink - most of whom are anti-gun, have mental problems themselves, and are prone to believe mental problems are relativistic, e.g EVERYBODY has them.


37 posted on 04/20/2013 4:57:30 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Vinnie
Who will decide who is too mentally ill to own a gun? How can we take an inalienable Constitutional right away from someone so easily? This is a path that will be horribly abused to disarm Americans. It won't just be those we all see as “crazy”, who are affected.

It will cause an invasion of privacy by politically motivated doctors to disarm people who they know pose no threat. It will be used to disarm veterans who have been treated for PTSD, and will cause people not to seek help for fear of losing their Constitutional rights. The vast majority of those who need help are in no way homicidal. The left will keep making it easier and easier for a person to be disarmed this way. This is way too easy for the left to abuse, and we already know they will try.

www.OathKeepers.org

38 posted on 04/20/2013 4:58:48 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG - WWW.CSPOA.ORG)
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To: Enterprise

If I didn’t live in Jersey and had the cash, I would buy one.

But I would rather have a Parker-Hale Muzzle-loading .45 Whitworth rifle - one made in Britain, not Italy.


39 posted on 04/20/2013 4:59:04 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Olog-hai

“and mandating that ID presented by would-be gun-owners is government-issued.”

That’s already the case. You need a NJ FID card for purchases and the address on the card has to match your drivers license to be a valid. Why is another law needed?


40 posted on 04/20/2013 5:02:37 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Vince Ferrer
How many people have actually been shot with a Barrett .50?

The .50 BMG makes the armored limousine class very nervous.

41 posted on 04/20/2013 5:05:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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"and provisions to make it easier for courts and health care professionals to involuntarily commit people they consider violent to a psychiatric hospital"

Pound sand, Christie. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty. You don't get 'commit' people in advance of a crime. And I sure as hell don't want the same group that bowed to social pressure and claimed homosexuality is 'normal' redefining the word 'violent' too.


42 posted on 04/20/2013 5:13:14 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Olog-hai

Darn.. they are trying to ban my dream rifle. If I ever had the money I would buy two,one for DH and my own Barrett 50 cal. I am a left handed riflegal so I must have my own rifles.


43 posted on 04/20/2013 5:14:56 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Enterprise

Actually, many Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan have been blown to muzzie bits with the Barrett rifle.

Governor Crisco is insufferable to conservatives & it’s not due to his weight. If he were skinny, his name would be Lautenburg.


44 posted on 04/20/2013 5:16:38 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Olog-hai

I never was too impressed with Christie. He’s better than a Democrat which is per usual for RINOs. Now, I’m not so sure.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 5:42:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SampleMan

Maybe.

But google it.

Weighs 31 lbs.

One huge hunk of gun.

No one is going to haul it under their coat.

Getting it in place and setting it up would be a busy event easily spotted by any decent security detail.

You can’t punch through an armoured vehicle with them, but don’t forget that snipers regularly kill at distances near 1/2 mile with the same calibres we hunt with...308, .300 mag, .338, etc.

So eventually all of those would be banned as well.

Never mind that even to kill at that range with those smaller weapons, one must have all sorts of support equipment which again one does not carry under one’s shirt.

A different thing than the way we are equipped to hunt.


46 posted on 04/20/2013 5:56:04 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Olog-hai

Does Ann Coulter still like him?


47 posted on 04/20/2013 6:09:32 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Olog-hai

With Republicans like Christie, who needs Democrats?


48 posted on 04/20/2013 6:12:30 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Olog-hai

He really is showing his progressive color now, amazing.


49 posted on 04/20/2013 6:17:30 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: Godebert

Coulter has retracted her support for Christie already. But it is a tough mistake to live down.


50 posted on 04/20/2013 6:29:40 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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