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Feds ... the government's terror-trackers knew about the Boston bombers before the blasts'
The Daily Mail Online ^ | April 20, 2013 | DAVID MARTOSKO IN WASHINGTON

Posted on 04/20/2013 7:21:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Federal law enforcement officials are actively investigating the possibility that the Boston bombers were known to the government’s terror-trackers, MailOnline understands.

Any inquiry into the marathon bombing will look into whether agents could have taken action – but didn’t – to prevent the Tsarnaev brothers from obtaining the explosives that killed 3 and wounded 173 others.

CBS News reported Friday evening that two years ago, the FBI interviewed the elder brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, who was killed in Thursday night's dramatic shootout. The feds reportedly spoke to him at the request of an unspecified foreign government, but couldn't establish that he had ties to terrorist radicals.

Tamerlan left the United States in January 2012 for Russia and returned in mid-July, according to records uncovered by NBC in New York.

But an official inside the Department of Homeland Security with knowledge of federal law enforcement activities in Massachusetts has claimed to MailOnline that Tamerlan was on the radar screen of agents in Boston between his return to the U.S. and the end of the fall.

A second source, formerly assigned to a U.S. JTTF, confirmed to MailOnline that ‘there is some very quiet discussion in the Boston JTTF about this.’

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The Homeland Security source told MailOnline that the FBI in Boston now believes Tamerlan was receiving assistance from an 'organized radical element' in Massachusetts. And agents are now reviewing at least one report from inside a mosque to see if they can identify Tamerlan’s associates in Boston's Muslim community.

Law enforcement at the federal level has 'practically nothing' on Dzhokhar, Tamerlan's younger brother,that source claimed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 04/20/2013 7:21:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

NY Governor Cuomo Likens Boston Bombing to Climate Change
Posted on April 20, 2013

Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/04/ny-governor-cuomo-likens-boston-bombing-to-climate-change/#ixzz2R0tx3yP0


2 posted on 04/20/2013 7:25:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Uncle Chip

They can’t keep track of terrorists and blame conservatives of being terrorists and order billions of bullets? Which side is the government on.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 7:26:22 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Do you really you think these two goofballs, including a teenager who ran over his own brother, were sophisticated enough to plan, obtain the explosives, supplies, and electronics, assemble, and then deliver two electronically detonated bombs all on their own? And no escape plan for getting out of Boston?

These two were expendable delivery boys for a larger islamoterrorist group.

4 posted on 04/20/2013 7:27:42 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Uncle Chip
....that the FBI in Boston now believes Tamerlan was receiving assistance from an 'organized radical element' in Massachusetts.

That should read 'radical Muslim element'.

5 posted on 04/20/2013 7:29:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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6 posted on 04/20/2013 7:33:12 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Ha....Obambi punked by islamics ....(again)


7 posted on 04/20/2013 7:34:39 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: mountainlion
"....and orders billions of bullets." ???

The federal government orders ammunition, not bullets. Bullets are those little things that are launched by a firearm and fly through the air until they impact a target or ultimately fall to the ground.

Ammunition is a multitude of cartridges. Cartridges are composed of a shellcase, primer, bullet and propellant powder.

Bullets are to cartridges as flour is to bread as cement is to concrete, etc. When will you and the media ever learn?

8 posted on 04/20/2013 7:38:39 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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If this guy was on their radar screen ever since he came back from Russia, why didn’t it dawn on them, when they got the video tape footage, that he suspect? He’s from the boston area! He fits the age range. Looks muslim. Why did they ask for public’s help in identifying this guy? They couldn’t they figure it out themselves?

Gross incompetance.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 7:41:14 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: Uncle Chip
My uess is that this is Fast & Furious No. 2....and why we lied to Russia.

They outsmarted us. They knew our routine setups because there is no such thing as "Top Secret" in this country.

10 posted on 04/20/2013 7:41:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

Massive Homeland Security Failure.

Obama and Napolitano spent their time and our tax money demonizing the Tea Party instead of protecting Americans from muslim terrorism.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 7:43:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: GOPJ
That should read 'radical Muslim element'.

further it should read: 'radical Muslim element from Menino's Mosque'.

I'm wondering why the authorities never got any credible leads from the Saudi imams at the Menino Mosque???

What -- they didn't recognize one of their most zealous members???

Surely the imams recognized Tamerlan after his picture was posted. Why didn't they call the police???

12 posted on 04/20/2013 7:43:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The feds must have suspected something was up. Otherwise, why the security sweeps beforehand at the beginning and finish line of the race?


13 posted on 04/20/2013 7:45:42 AM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: snowstorm12
I think they knew much earlier.

They had to talk to Obama and tell him they were Muslims and Putin had notified them, too.

And so we heard the same damn statement as the Hasan farce..."Let's not come to any conclusions".

And now...Mr. Flipoff has declared the chapter closed.

He's nuts!!

14 posted on 04/20/2013 7:48:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

15 posted on 04/20/2013 7:54:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sacajaweau

the whole thing stinks to high heaven.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 7:58:40 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: IM2MAD

Otherwise, why the security sweeps beforehand at the beginning and finish line of the race?....SOP. And did the Feds do this or the local cops. Usually the local cops do the grunt work, so the Feds can point fingers and say”See? They F’ed up.”


17 posted on 04/20/2013 8:00:46 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Uncle Chip

A second source, formerly assigned to a U.S. JTTF, confirmed to MailOnline that ‘there is some very quiet discussion in the Boston JTTF about this.’
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Something along the lines of “Geez, what if they find out that we knew all about these guys but Obama told us not to ...”


18 posted on 04/20/2013 8:02:08 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: snowstorm12

Sure does....I’m waiting for Putin to speak in public and clean Obama’s clock....especially with the cr** we just pulled about certain people entering....which may be a big coverup, too.


19 posted on 04/20/2013 8:02:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

The Feds are jealous that someone else got to supply the explosives. But seriously, what explosives are not tracked by the BATFE?


20 posted on 04/20/2013 8:15:01 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Uncle Chip

Second Boston marathon suspect reportedly partied 2 nights after bombing

Published April 20, 2013

FoxNews.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/20/second-boston-marathon-suspect-reportedly-partied-2-nights-after-bombing/#ixzz2R17EKDxy


21 posted on 04/20/2013 8:16:12 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Buffalo Head
Bullets are to cartridges as flour is to bread as cement is to concrete, etc. When will you and the media ever learn?

Well excuse me for not proper kings english! You must be form the east! I am sorry you do not understand slang. Billions of bullets is poetic not accurate anyway. Wouldn't it be boring if we all spoke and wore form the same book of instruction?

22 posted on 04/20/2013 8:17:34 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

By: Newsmax Wire Reports

WASHINGTON — The FBI and other law enforcement agencies were aware of at least one of the Boston terror suspects for several years, and even failed to deport him after a domestic violence conviction in 2009.

The FBI in 2011 interviewed one of the brothers suspected in the deadly Boston Marathon bombings, a disclosure that raises questions about whether the government missed potential warning signs about the men’s behavior.

The brothers had not been under surveillance as possible militants, U.S. government officials said. But the FBI said in a statement on Friday that in 2011 it interviewed Tamerlan at the request of a foreign government, which it did not identify.


23 posted on 04/20/2013 8:17:37 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Sacajaweau
I’m waiting for Putin to speak in public and clean Obama’s clock.

Putin is too smart for that. He'll probably trade his silence for Obama selling out on some more of our national security.

24 posted on 04/20/2013 8:19:23 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer
Nope....I believe he'll step to the plate.

The USA just pulled some more sh** on Russia and Obama got it shoved back in his face.

25 posted on 04/20/2013 8:20:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Would be nice to see Putin do that. Hopefully Obama’s usefulness to Putin will decline as he turns into a lame duck.


26 posted on 04/20/2013 8:24:23 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: IM2MAD

Where did these kids get the money they lived on and they had expensive tastes.

Where did Tamerlan get the money to fly to Russia and stay there for 6 months??

It’s hard to believe that these 2 were not known and atleast recognizable by that bunch of young Saudis whose pictures have been all over this board the last week. They were all the same age and must have comingled at the Menino Mosque which is run by Saudi imams and with Saudi money.

It is well known that there is a Saudi connection to Chechniya. The Saudis have the money and the Chechens have the willing manpower.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 8:24:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: IM2MAD

They may have known something was up, but they also routinely did such security sweeps for the marathon as well.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 8:24:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Buffalo Head
The federal government orders ammunition, not bullets.

My turn to get picky and absurd. The Government ordered by part numbers and by NSNs (National Stock Number) and not ammunition. Hey Joe sell me a nuclear bomb and a ammunition?

They put out a bid for a certain number of a specified product and take the lowest bid in general for large purchases.

29 posted on 04/20/2013 8:26:44 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 9YearLurker
but they also routinely did such security sweeps for the marathon as well.

They probably had the dogs noses dialed onto PEDs rather than explosives.

30 posted on 04/20/2013 8:34:56 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 9YearLurker
The real question is whether DHS or the FBI had a information about a potential terrorist attack and didn't share that info with the local police. They may have been watching Tamerlan Tsarnaev but not put the pieces together in time to stop him.
31 posted on 04/20/2013 8:38:37 AM PDT by eggman (End the Obama occupation of the White House!)
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To: Uncle Chip

It was the RUSSIANS who asked us to take a close look at the elder bomber. They knew who he was, gave us a heads up, as he would be an enemy of both the US and Russia. What do we do? Clear him and then don’t follow up.


32 posted on 04/20/2013 8:39:06 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: KeyLargo
fROM YOUR LINK -"...the suspect, believed to have been injured in a wild shootout that spanned Thursday night to Friday morning, was being taken to Beth Israel Hospital

Taken to Beth Israel Hospital! Oh, the irony!!

33 posted on 04/20/2013 8:44:40 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Uncle Chip

HAH!

Homeland Security, ain’t!!
Never mind it’s run by a woman, at that! Look at what happened when Blanco was governor, when Hurricane Katrina came along.

The “Peter Principle” knows and recognizes NO gender!


34 posted on 04/20/2013 8:55:15 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: airborne
"Taken to Beth Israel Hospital! Oh, the irony!!"

And yes, I recommend a therapy dog for him.

"Yet, dogs have a dark place in Islamic society. Dogs are considered unclean, and Islamic angels do not enter a house that has a dog. Islam also recognizes certain types of dogs as "devil", and orders that Muslims must kill such dogs.

Dogs are, thus, a despised creature in the Islamic world? Islamic traditions prohibit petting of dogs in Muslim homes. Even a "Muslim" taxi driver in America would not allow a blind person and his guide dog into his cab."

35 posted on 04/20/2013 8:56:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: eggman
They may have been watching Tamerlan Tsarnaev but not put the pieces together in time to stop him.

Three days after the bombing, after they had the Lord&Taylor video, and the publication of said video, and the leads coming in some/most/all of which must have pointed to these two -- the FBI still had no clue.

And it turns out that their encounter with the police Thursday night was accidental. They would still not have known without that 7 Eleven incident.

36 posted on 04/20/2013 9:02:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

FBI probably hit the PC glass ceiling.


37 posted on 04/20/2013 9:09:13 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for posting this. This is the clearest indictment I have yet seen of the incompetence and negligence of the US government. They did a cursory look into this guy and either did not look for, or ignored, his connections to a radical islamic mosque and his postings on social media and youtube that should have set off alarm bells of his radical learnings. That information, coupled with the tip-off by Russia, should have been sufficient to obtain warrants and/or conduct surveillance. How many more Americans are going to die because of politically motivated wilful blindness by those in government who are supposed to be protecting America?


38 posted on 04/20/2013 9:11:00 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Terry L Smith

“Homeland Security, ain’t!! Never mind it’s run by a woman, at that!”

There is nothing womanly about that thing...


39 posted on 04/20/2013 9:21:22 AM PDT by Max_850
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To: Uncle Chip
Three days after the bombing, after they had the Lord&Taylor video, and the publication of said video, and the leads coming in some/most/all of which must have pointed to these two -- the FBI still had no clue

This is what I don't get. How could the Feds NOT know who they were. When someone immigrates they get photographed, printed, biometrics taken ...not once but repeatedly. They could have run face recognition through the system and come up with a match easily in those days after the bombing. This doesn't pass the smell test.

40 posted on 04/20/2013 9:30:31 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: snowstorm12
“If this guy was on their radar screen ever since he came back from Russia, why didn’t it dawn on them, when they got the video tape footage, that he suspect? He’s from the boston area! He fits the age range. Looks muslim. Why did they ask for public’s help in identifying this guy? They couldn’t they figure it out themselves?”

I suspect the Feds knew whom it was almost immediately. This was a major drop of the ball. Three days later they play dumb and stumped and they release photos for civilian help. This was just a cover their ass charade which needlessly got the Cambridge cop killed. Heads need to roll, hopefully Big Fat Sis is one of them, but we know how that will go.

41 posted on 04/20/2013 9:34:16 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Uncle Chip

Thank god foreign governments and the foreign media are looking out for our interests.

While suspect one was training in Russia/Chechnya, the Department of Homeland Security was in sensitivity training.


42 posted on 04/20/2013 9:37:26 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: DAC21
Also, I didn't watch Obozo’s speach last night (purposely) Why was he singing the praises of Putin?. Did Valadi call and remind Big Sis and the rest of the merry band of Dopes about the same guy they warned us about in 2011?
43 posted on 04/20/2013 9:41:09 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: onyx

Get them out of there. We have to — or else!


44 posted on 04/20/2013 10:04:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I know it. I keep praying.... and voting.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 10:06:54 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: DAC21

Why? Really, you’re asking WHY? The fedzilla has a long list of special perps they can use for special purposes ... even tracking them, allowing them to get going (or get direct help from fedzilla, as has been proven on several occasions, including the first bombing of the WTC in the nineties, or the seven/seven terrorist plot). There is an agenda afoot which requires enough ‘controlled’ terrorism to persuade the American sheeple to surrender their Constitutional rights so the globalist new world order can be instituted without US resistence to it.


46 posted on 04/20/2013 10:14:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: moovova

FBI probably hit the PC glass ceiling.
********
Certainly true in nearly every federal agency now as diversity rules the day. As a result, inexperienced and clueless “managers” abound.


47 posted on 04/20/2013 10:18:23 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: mountainlion
"Hey Joe sell me a nuclear bomb and a (sic) ammunition?"

Ammunition is plural.

"They put out a bid for a certain number of a specified product and take the lowest bid in general for large purchases."

Occasionally. More frequently in modern ammunition solicitations a contract is awarded on the basis of "Best Value" to the government which includes such aspects as previous government contract history, quality, delivery, customer service, production capacity, woman or minority owned, etc.

"Well excuse me for not (sic) proper kings english (sic)! " Do you know proper English usage?

"You must be form (sic) the east!" No.

"I am sorry you do not understand slang."

Your apology is accepted. For the record, I well understand street slang, profanity and the speech mannerisms of under-educated, unrefined and rude people.

"Wouldn't it be boring if we all spoke and wore (sic) form the same book of instruction?"

Such an asinine comment hardly deserves comment, but do you believe drivers should be able to choose which side of the highway upon which to drive or the threads on light bulbs shouldn't be standardized or that the "Cold" faucet is on the right side, etc?

There are very solid reasons why civilized people standardize many aspects of life, including communications.

Having access to a keyboard does not make you a standard by which others should emulate. Heaven forbid!

48 posted on 04/20/2013 11:04:10 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Buffalo Head

Ammunition is plural.

I was using Ammunition as a noun!

Do you know John Kerry?


49 posted on 04/20/2013 11:16:50 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Perhaps Tammerlan was the real Islamic terrorist and his younger brother was just along for the ride/learning experience? “Hey, little Brother, let me show you how it’s done.”


50 posted on 04/20/2013 1:57:24 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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