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Revealed: 'Relaxed Boston 'bomber' partied with college friends two days AFTER marathon massacre
Daily Mail ^ | 19 April 2013 | Katie Davies

Posted on 04/20/2013 9:06:21 AM PDT by matt1234

The 19-year-old Chechen terror suspect [Dzhokhar Tsarnaev] partied with college friends on Wednesday night and was said to 'look relaxed'.

Hours before the deadly shootout which claimed his brother's life Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev was seen on a night out on campus.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bostonbombing; bostonmarathon; dzhokhartsarnaev; kenyanbornmuzzie; lewrockwell; marathonbombing; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; suspect2; terrorism
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Please read the full article. It's a long and damning profile of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. There are many interesting facts missing from US media reports. There are numerous pictures of the Tsarnaev brothers at the link.
1 posted on 04/20/2013 9:06:21 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: matt1234

I thought they didn’t have any friends.


2 posted on 04/20/2013 9:12:25 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: matt1234

Why in hell do we have to read a British newspaper to learn anything about these Islamic murderers? It seems that our own media have become complicit in Jihad. I have always said that the media gets half of their stories wrong, and the other half they just make up. But now they have become an enemy of the people and the Republic.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 9:17:34 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: matt1234
figures.. only from a British paper..
how USA papers reported this.
4 posted on 04/20/2013 9:18:01 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: matt1234

As soon as I saw pictures of this guy I thought he was a psychopath. He had the strut. Reminded me of Sean Penn.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 9:20:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If the oath-breaking politicians won't fear God, we can at least make them fear We the People.)
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To: Parmy

The older brother’s best friend was murdered (unsolved). The older brother claimed to not have any friends. Never heard any claim like that from the younger brother.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 9:21:22 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: skinkinthegrass

The American media’s performance during this crisis has been nothing short of deplorable. And i lump Fox News in with the others. I don’t know if they all agreed to self-censor at the request of the US government, but I was amazed at how they were late to the party on almost every image and piece of information that I would find in the Telegraph or Daily Mail websites. And last night it took about 20 minutes for Fox to update its website after the younger brother was arrested. Even CNN was quicker off the mark.


7 posted on 04/20/2013 9:21:45 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Parmy

I think that was just the older brother....


8 posted on 04/20/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: matt1234
Interesting highlights:

  1. On April 21 2012 he wrote in Russian: 'I will perish young' while last month he tweeted 'Never underestimate the rebel with a cause'.
  2. He also posted: 'Idk [I don't know] why it's hard for many of you to accept that 9/11 was an inside job, I mean I guess f*** the facts y'all are some real #patriots #gethip.' And 'September 10th baby, you know what tomorrow is. Party at my house! #thingsyoudontyellwhenenteringaroom.'
  3. Both sons had immense pride in their 'home country' with Dzhokhar describing himself as Chechen and speaking the language.
  4. 'A friend of mine remembered a conversation he had had with Dzhokhar. It was along the lines of when justified, terrorism is not necessarily a bad thing.'

10 posted on 04/20/2013 9:23:42 AM PDT by matt1234 (The NRA: Redefining "Too big to fail.")
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To: matt1234

Was Moochelle there?


11 posted on 04/20/2013 9:25:00 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Parmy

It was the older brother who had a problem making American friends. The younger brother didn’t see to have that problem.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 9:25:04 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: palmer

The murder victim had pot thrown over his body. I’m wondering if the older brother was involved in drug dealing at some point. It might explain how he could be driving around in luxury cars without a significant job.


13 posted on 04/20/2013 9:27:59 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Parmy

Whatever ‘friends’ you see in the UK based pictures are of guys where he either has his arm around them or they are standing very close...he was a homo.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 9:31:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Afterguard

“Why in hell do we have to read a British newspaper to learn anything about these Islamic murderers?”

Because we clearly no longer have a free unbiased press.


15 posted on 04/20/2013 9:31:13 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: skinkinthegrass

Because Brit papers are not part of the Obama state-run media, that’s why.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 9:34:59 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: matt1234

So I wonder if any of his pals called authorities after the surveillance tapes were released.


17 posted on 04/20/2013 9:36:15 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: bigbob
Because Brit papers are not part of the Obama state-run media, that’s why.
BINGO... precisely. :-)

18 posted on 04/20/2013 9:40:25 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: matt1234

Of course he was relaxed. He has a guaranteed pass to heaven where he can get banged by Allah every night while his 72 virgins watch.


19 posted on 04/20/2013 9:41:26 AM PDT by pallis
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To: CaptainK

Possible. They might have also been funded. The Chechens have a lot of oil money just like the Saudis.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 9:42:33 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Gaffer
he was a homo.

He was a nursing student. That's not evidence but it's a red flag.

21 posted on 04/20/2013 9:47:32 AM PDT by matt1234 (The NRA: Redefining "Too big to fail.")
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To: Hardraade
Was Moochelle there?

LOL.

22 posted on 04/20/2013 9:48:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: matt1234

Go look at the dailyUK or whatever pictures and examine he and the ‘friends’ he’s pictured with. I don’t have a doubt about it.


23 posted on 04/20/2013 9:49:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: palmer
The older brother claimed to not have any friends.

No friends, yet the murdered guy was his best friend and he had a girlfriend he beat up and a wife who by all accounts lives with her parents. Very strange.

24 posted on 04/20/2013 9:49:39 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Afterguard

While the UK bends over backwards to accomodate the most miniscule claim of victimhood, minority, etc., them Brits do love their picture essays, for sure.

Our media here is very adept at presenting the desired PC effect they try to sieve out to the US public. It is why you only see pictures (mostly) of this ‘kid’ as being a clean cut yout’, or the Lanza ‘kid’ as a kid and not a crazy. At least the Brits don’t sensor the images.


25 posted on 04/20/2013 9:51:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bgill

Seems a little less odd for an outside-funded jihadi. Keeps the wife at least an hour’s drive away and probably has some good Muslim friends. His statement was “”I don’t have a single American friend””


26 posted on 04/20/2013 9:59:51 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: pallis
Of course he was relaxed. He has a guaranteed pass to heaven where he can get banged by Allah every night while his 72 virgins watch.

In the marathon pics, he looks like he's smiling. Sick, sick.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 10:03:24 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Arab Spring in Boston 2013

Terrorist on his way to post Marathon Party


28 posted on 04/20/2013 10:08:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: matt1234

In the UK article...one of the pictures of this vermin looks like a young Bob Dyan....


29 posted on 04/20/2013 10:16:50 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Diogenesis

You got em...


30 posted on 04/20/2013 10:19:41 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: matt1234; Travis McGee; blam; dixiechick2000; Pelham; mrsmel; dennisw; rmlew
I don't pick up on any comments here.

Doesn't look homosexual or psycho to me.

Looks like a sorta handsome floppy kid...I do not see dead eyes and trust me...I know them when i see them.

The older one looks more menacing.

This is most troubling to me ...how could a boy of 19 rationalize placing a bomb next to a child knowing it would kill that child

I was a very bad 19 year and capable of mayhem but never ever something like that.

I think Jihad runs in the family and they had to have help and guidance....just examine both have Islamist names

The younger one seems to have been more adjusted to US life

but the older one had many gripes about US culture...some that anyone would observe about our sloven fat Wal Mart America and trashy oversexed culture...our enemy always sees our cultural rot as our weakness...and they are right

anyhow...I find all of this far far more unsettling than less acclimated jihadis coming here to create mayhem

I believe there are others like this...

and we are awash with soft targets and someone more canny and disciplined or better trained could be far more effective and get away with it...even in the camera age

and then just blend back in and go back to college and smoking pot and partying and tweeting all the while smug in some jihadi self satisfaction

what will be most likely to get folks like that caught will be their need to get recognition from those who inspire them for their actions here

how many immigrants like this are in our midst now?

I guess I'm saying of course it's Islam but we make ourselves so vulnerable in obvious ways but also in more insidious ways

Our inner degradation of what we once were has made us an object of derision with little respect(fear) from our enemies

they see us as a land of fat lazy people with fatherless kids addicted to reality shows and urban black areas awash in crime little different than third world

oversexed trashy women and effete men with homosexuals at their zenith

is it any wonder we look like such inviting targets?

a POTUS who apologizes to the world constantly, bows to Islam, and blames success

a culture where we make every tragedy about us and clamour for understanding of our enemies...Christian goggledegook about love the man who just blew up your eight year old to bits....the very one who seconds before hugged you as you finished the race..and immediate closure for any tragedy

we are so pitifully fractured and weak

I am older...WWII was explained to me as a boy from those who lived it...it was about determination and resolve...steely quiet resolve

not like that silly breast beating spectacle from Democrat voters in Boston last night..whose patriotism will fade next ward election

I tell you...we are simply not the nation we once were....I blame media, academia and immigration...legal and illegal

I can promise anyone...the road forth will be hard to navigate and I am not the least bit hopeful that what will replace what we had will be better

and we have the potential to shed more blood right here...than ever before in mankind...islam is actually more the kindling than the fire

Juxtapose how we react and live with terrorism in comparison with how Israel does it..do they blame themselves...do they seek closure and understanding..lol

31 posted on 04/20/2013 10:21:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: matt1234
The 19-year-old Chechen terror suspect [Dzhokhar Tsarnaev] partied with college friends on Wednesday night and was said to 'look relaxed'.

He looked relaxed, because of the drugs they all were doing...

If they were sober, they could have called 911 to say... the TERRORIST is at this party...

32 posted on 04/20/2013 10:22:42 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Deport all Muslims...yes, All Muslims!! No more Muslim Terrorists...Deport them all...)
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To: Diogenesis; Pikachu_Dad

a lot of posters have picked up on a bunch of this


33 posted on 04/20/2013 10:23:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: matt1234
I notice that the media loves showing a picture of the younger underaged Dzhokhar.

They should be showing his latest picture.

34 posted on 04/20/2013 10:27:13 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: wardaddy
how could a boy of 19 rationalize placing a bomb next to a child knowing it would kill that child

His acquaintances said he was a pothead. Pot is a hallucinogenic that causes delusional thinking. I'm so tired of people characterizing pot as harmless. It's not harmless. Look at these eyes:

Combine pot with jihadi influences, and you've got a dangerous mix in the mind of a impressionable young man.

35 posted on 04/20/2013 10:31:05 AM PDT by matt1234 (The NRA: Redefining "Too big to fail.")
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To: Afterguard
Why in hell do we have to read a British newspaper to learn anything about these Islamic murderers?

It was like that in 2001 as well....

All the US media wanted to follow was the response to the carnage and the discussions of (Why).......

In effect the coverage was all opinion journalism looking for a skull full of mush to invade.....(We are at fault) (Bush did it with his snarky rhetoric)

Nothing has changed, except they cannot blame Bush....so they will find others targets of opportunity like those nasty teabaggers,,,,

36 posted on 04/20/2013 10:31:08 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
Nothing has changed, except they cannot blame Bush

Oh, they'll find a way.

37 posted on 04/20/2013 10:32:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: matt1234
Combine pot with jihadi influences, and you've got a dangerous mix in the mind of a impressionable sociopathic young man.
38 posted on 04/20/2013 10:34:33 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Diogenesis

Don’t think the guy behind is the brother.


39 posted on 04/20/2013 10:34:43 AM PDT by Starstruck (Don't rest. We came close to the 2nd Amendment being field tested.)
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To: wardaddy

I still want more details about the mother’s arrest, if she was deported, and how that timeline ties in with the older brother’s return from Russia. Was she prosecuted and deported? Was this the ‘stresser’ which caused the older brother to abort possible terrorist training overseas and return to plant bombs near another location of the company that prosecuted his mother?


40 posted on 04/20/2013 10:37:26 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: matt1234

Oh please

Utter be....I along with scores of fellow posters here have smoked pot

It does nothing of the sort

Violent rage is far more common with alcohol or cocaine abuse

Pot makes folks lazy at worst not murderous.....have you ever smoked any?

Neither is it a true hallucinogenic.... its sort of in a class by itself

I smoked copious amounts....never ever hallucinated

Both those lads were named at birth Islamist warrior names

That is the obvious key

And the older brother appears to have been fairly doctrinaire


41 posted on 04/20/2013 10:41:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy

Good post wardaddy and straight from the heart. Of course what has happened to this country has many, many explanations - some obvious and some not so much. Prayer being removed from school, a culture of abortion, celebration of sodomy, the drug culture, the changes that have occurred with the economy and on and on.

One thing that occurred to me though - we abolished the draft back in the mid 70’s - right after the Vietnam war. So now we’re about 40 years into that experiment. On the one hand - giving military training to those that would use that training for nefarious means - could be thought of as a bad idea.

But on the other hand - I suspect universal military service had many positive effects on society. It probably taught many lessons and had perhaps a leveling effect on society. It probably is one of many possible factors that has gotten us to this pretty miserable state that we’re now in.


42 posted on 04/20/2013 10:51:50 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: kingu

Folks who name one kid after Tamerlane...the collector of infidel skulls

And the other... Dzohkar after the Chechen leader who revolted from Yeltsin and subsequented killed in 1996....places all over the Muslim world named after him

Its like Jews naming kids Gabriel or Gideon

Or my particular sub group naming a boy Nathan Bedford or Robert E or Jubal Early

Or Hindus naming kids for early Hindi warriors

And forth....it gives indication nature of the family..not so much a bad thing but depends on ideology....in the case of Islam....often negative consequence


43 posted on 04/20/2013 11:01:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy

We’ll have to agree to disagree on the nature and effects of pot. When I said it caused delusional thinking, I was talking about the frequent user (e.g.,: every day).


44 posted on 04/20/2013 11:03:04 AM PDT by matt1234 (The NRA: Redefining "Too big to fail.")
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To: palmer

I have not seen that report. When you get a chance could you please direct me to it or provide a link? I am very interested in this part of story. Thanks!!


45 posted on 04/20/2013 11:15:17 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire
Brothers in Marathon bombings took two paths into infamy (Unsolved murders from 2011!)
46 posted on 04/20/2013 11:33:01 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: matt1234

Hey...easy with the ‘red flags’ stereo types bro!

signed, MDMATHIS6...RN for 27 years and married to a real woman for 24 years!


47 posted on 04/20/2013 11:40:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: palmer

Bless you. thank You!


48 posted on 04/20/2013 11:49:02 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: matt1234

There seems to be a lot of off the wall speculation being made here but the fact of the matter is, the only thing this evidence proves is that these guys were stupid and not part of an organization.


49 posted on 04/20/2013 12:05:35 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: Afterguard
Why do we have to read a British newspaper to learn anything about these Islamic murderers? It seems that our own media have become complicit in Jihad. I have always said that the media gets half of their stories wrong, and the other half they just make up. But now they have become an enemy of the people and the Republic.
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (Book I, Ch 10)
There is a singular American institution dedicated precisely to a continuous virtual meeting of people of the trade of journalism. That organization is the Associated Press, which has been in existence for over a century and a half - ample time for journalists to become so fully immersed in “a conspiracy against the public” as to make it second nature. They don’t even think about it, they just do it. The AP even publicly codifies some of the things which writers who hope for nationwide AP publication will not say. Such as, for example, use the term “illegal immigrant."

50 posted on 04/20/2013 12:07:00 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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