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Did the FBI hold back good images of the bomb suspects at their new conference?
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post_article ^ | 4/20/2013 | dragnet2

Posted on 04/20/2013 9:49:07 AM PDT by dragnet2

On Monday 4/15/2013 Two bombs explode near the finish line of the Boston marathon, killing three and wounding nearly 180.

On Thursday 4/18/2013 the FBI released marginal pictures, images and video of two men suspected of involvement in the attacks, appealing to the public to help identify them.

It seems clear now, the FBI were unable to ID the suspects, so they went public on 4/18/2013.

Within hours a campus police officer is shot to death.

However, within a very short time after the news conference, possibly less than an hour or so, the FBI then released near perfect images. In fact, they were frontal, easily identifiable, near perfect closeup images of the two suspects.

If you recall, directly after the news conference the FBI and media made it clear the FBI had much better images/video of the suspects. We've all seen them now, they are near perfect frontal images of the suspects

If this is all in fact true, it begs the question: Why did they not release these high quality frontal face images/video during the news conference when they appealed to the public for help identifying the suspect?

This seems a bit odd.


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1 posted on 04/20/2013 9:49:07 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Perhaps people who knew the perps called in after seeing the first grainy photos. Once the FBI had names of the guys they were able to obtain better photos.


2 posted on 04/20/2013 9:52:20 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: FReepaholic

Or people sent in the pictures when they noticed the dirtbags in them.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 9:53:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: dragnet2; TexasCajun
This image, posted on the suspect-identification thread by (IIRC) Texas Cajun, may hold your answers:

I'm not saying it's true, but after Fast & Furious (and Benghazi) I'm much more inclined to listen to conspiracy theories.

4 posted on 04/20/2013 9:55:35 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dragnet2

Yes, they did.

I was listening to the police scanner Thursday night. A police officer mentioned to someone at HQ that he had seen a very good photo in the hands of another law enforcement agency. The person at HQ radioed back and asked if he was able to get a copy. The police officer said that the other LEA had refused to give him a copy.

Exact quote from the HQ guy in response:

“That’s just outstanding. Let me make a phone call.”

I heard this firsthand on the scanner sometime between 11pm and 12am EST.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 9:55:57 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: dragnet2

What the FBI didn’t want was a flood of calls from all over the world about sightings so, they released images with just enough resolution that anyone knowing the terrorists, especially the younger one would be able to recognize him.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 9:56:39 AM PDT by fso301
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To: dragnet2

Of course they did .. kowtowing, politically appointed brass, whose ‘professional’ lives are entirely dependent on the whims of the halfrican usurper, the Cøward in chief, our very own Muzz Muppet @ 1600


7 posted on 04/20/2013 9:57:12 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: FReepaholic

If that is in fact true, it was never once revealed or reported.


8 posted on 04/20/2013 9:57:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Why did they not release these high quality frontal face images/video during the news conference when they appealed to the public for help identifying the suspect?

Like all good government functionaries, they were answering their highest calling, protecting their turf. To admit outright that they were helpless and needed the assistance of John Q. Public damages their image.

9 posted on 04/20/2013 9:57:33 AM PDT by Roccus (Government = politicians and bureaucrats......'nuff said.)
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To: bolobaby

I heard they got good photos from the ATM machine or 7-11 where car hijacked.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 9:58:13 AM PDT by libbylu
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The FBI should’ve figured out who it was just from the video they did have, without needing any public help. He was on the FBI’s radar screen since 2011 and after he returned from Russia for terroist activities.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 9:58:52 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: FReepaholic

The uncle sure doesn’t sound like he has any love for his nephews. He called them useless and pathetic.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 9:58:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dragnet2

didn’t need them I guess


13 posted on 04/20/2013 9:59:48 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dragnet2

As I commented on the thread where the FBI images were posted, there were already a number of FAR better images all over the internet. The FBI images were blurred and taken from a bad angle. It was obviously deliberate.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 10:00:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: fso301

And...somebodies ex-wife, girlfriend or just the idiot that doesn’t like someone.


15 posted on 04/20/2013 10:00:33 AM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: libbylu

That was after their appeal to the public, news conference.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 10:01:12 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If this is all in fact true, it begs the question: Why did they not release these high quality frontal face images/video during the news conference when they appealed to the public for help identifying the suspect?

Because the FBI and DHS are utterly incompetent...or worse, negligent...

Report: DHS Failed to Deport Boston Terrorist After 2009 Domestic Violence Assault
FBI Investigated Boston Terrorist in 2011 After Foreign Warning – and Cleared Him

17 posted on 04/20/2013 10:02:53 AM PDT by montag813
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To: dragnet2

The answer to your question is spelled out in this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/runner-spectator-photos-marathon-suspects-014835588.html

With his Nikon, Leonard snapped about 10 to 20 photos a minute Monday, capturing group after group of finishing runners and the crowds lining the route.
Three days later, when the FBI released images of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing, Leonard used the time stamp shown on them to narrow his search of the hundreds of photos he had taken that day. He realized that he, too, had photos of the faces of the two men authorities were searching for.
He uploaded them to the FBI and Friday morning, he saw his cropped photos all over the morning news.
“That finally gave them a good facial picture,” the 58-year-old electrical engineer said. “It was a pretty good breakthrough.”
The two men were later identified as brothers, 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed in shootout with police overnight Friday, and 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, distinctive in his backward white baseball cap. The younger man was captured Friday night after a daylong siege of a Boston suburb.
“They actually stood in that corner for quite a bit of time,” Leonard of Taunton, Mass., said of the men, just before the younger brother was caught.
After combing the digital images, he was sure he had something the FBI could use. He tried to upload them to an FBI site that it had asked the public to use. Then he called the hotline number and was on hold for about 40 minutes, the response was so overwhelming. He finally got an FBI spokesman, who told him to upload them to another site. Within 20 minutes, someone from the Department of Homeland Security called him back.
“They were on the news ... clear pictures of the two subjects and those were the pictures that I sent in,” said Leonard, who started photography as a hobby when his sons played high school sports.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 10:03:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If the oath-breaking politicians won't fear God, we can at least make them fear We the People.)
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To: snowstorm12

There will be some “splaining” to do on this matter.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 10:07:22 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: dragnet2

It looked like the photos pinned to the easels in the press conference, when they released the blurred pictures to the public, were much clearer. I have no idea why they would not want to release the best photos that they had. What I don’t understand is why they did not use facial recognition software to compare the photos taken at the Marathon, with the photos already on file with the US government. The younger terrorist is a US Citizen, so he has to have at least a passport photo in a database. The older terrorist was under some kind of suspicion in 2011, so you would assume that he would have his picture on file as well. Does LE not have the capability to access it’s own database of photos? It just does not make sense!


22 posted on 04/20/2013 10:11:22 AM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: EternalVigilance

He uploaded them to the FBI and Friday morning??


23 posted on 04/20/2013 10:15:20 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LyinLibs
I'm not saying they all look alike, but man, they all look alike: are those three Saudis clustered together in the other photo?


24 posted on 04/20/2013 10:16:17 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: dragnet2
I'm betting they not only knew who they were but "about" where they were...well before they put the pictures out.

I don't recall them saying someone gave us a big tip.

25 posted on 04/20/2013 10:16:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Dallas59
And...somebodies ex-wife, girlfriend or just the idiot that doesn’t like someone.

It would be interesting to learn the number and density of calls that originated from near where the terrorists lived and hanged out versus all of Boston and regional areas such as Providence and Nashua.

26 posted on 04/20/2013 10:17:42 AM PDT by fso301
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To: txhurl; csvset

I would say the short guy = the short guy, and the one with the yellow stripe is probably taking the group photo. The one in the grey jacket looks like the dishrag in the very back of the group.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 10:22:49 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: LyinLibs

I don’t think the guy behind white hat is the brother in that picture. I have a high res picture that shows he has a red armed jacket. He also looks Oriental like the woman next to him. Shape of his face doesn’t match.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 10:30:33 AM PDT by Starstruck (Don't rest. We came close to the 2nd Amendment being field tested.)
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To: Cicero
Yep...That's what we've been discussing.

In fact, it will be interesting to find out:

1. Exactly when did the FBI obtained the video? I would suspect within hours of the bombing.

2. When did the FBI determined which people in the crowd were the suspects? I would bet that night after the bombing.

3. How long did they wait to go public for help in identifying the suspects?

If they waited 2 1/2 days, why did they wait so long? Would the police officer still be alive if they had gone to the public for help earlier?

29 posted on 04/20/2013 10:37:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: montag813
Good info in both links. Thanks!

From the second link -

In 1995, al Qaeda setup a camp in Chechnya—ordered by Osama bin Laden—to train “international terrorists” to carry out plots against Americans and westerners. Bin Laden liked Chechens because they were Caucasian, and thus would more easily blend into Western populations than Arab jihadists. Chechens are also known for their militant adherence to Islamic jihad…Bin Laden himself used Chechens as his personal bodyguards.

30 posted on 04/20/2013 10:44:33 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: LyinLibs
don't forget this photo...

Why has everyone ruled out more than 2 bombers or more than 1 team of bombers?

31 posted on 04/20/2013 11:30:33 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: dragnet2
The law enforcement community needs to realize we are in a new technological era and their suppression of quality pics, documents and background info is a thing of the pre-digital past. Not only is it counterproductive as a million pairs of eyes could have been looking for the scumbags but they are also on the verge of a tremendous scandal as the mother stated emphatically that the FBI had numerous and continual contact for the last “3-5 years” via Internet transmitted interviews.
32 posted on 04/20/2013 11:41:15 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: cripplecreek
The uncle sure doesn’t sound like he has any love for his nephews. He called them useless and pathetic.

Covering his own arze?

33 posted on 04/20/2013 11:42:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: snowstorm12

BINGO..so why did they need help from the public? It’s because they didn’t want the public to find out so quickly that they already knew who this guy was and screwed up by not detaining him in 2011!


34 posted on 04/20/2013 11:51:37 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

And, they wanted to divert from the Saudi connection as best they can? I can’t shake the thought that there were more people involved than just these two brothers. And, I can’t shake the thought that the Saudi kid that is being deported is connected.


35 posted on 04/20/2013 12:08:03 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: dragnet2

They waited til Obama skipped town to release anything. That part irritates me to no end


36 posted on 04/20/2013 12:47:04 PM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: FReepaholic
Perhaps people who knew the perps called in after seeing the first grainy photos. Once the FBI had names of the guys they were able to obtain better photos.

Was there not a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the perpetrators of the Boston Marathon bombings?

Did this person or persons who tipped off the FBI receive the reward? Maybe I missed it.

37 posted on 04/20/2013 1:24:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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