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Is the State Hiding a Major Bible Era Find?
Arutz Sheva ^ | 20/4/13 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 04/20/2013 1:59:51 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

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The capital "apparently indicates that an entire temple of castle is buried beneath it," the newspaper adds. However, when Rosental contacted the Israel Antiquities Authority to inform them of the find, the person he spoke to simply said – "Yaron, good for you. You found it, but we already are aware of it. Now forget about the whole thing and keep your mouth shut."

Rosental said that he later found out that the IAA had known about the side for 18 months. He said that no digging has taken place since then, and that even steps like cordoning off the area to prevent damage to the rare find, have not been taken.

Rosental calls this "a scandal" but says that no less worrisome is that the state appears to have plans to move the separation fence between Israel and the PA in a way that will leave the site in the PA's hands,

According to Rosental, excavation of the site has potential for uncovering a complete castle from the Judean kings' period, for the first time ever. "We appear to have a complete castle here," he said. "Those who came after it did not know of its existence." The details found inside could be "amazing."

The IAA confirmed to Makor Rishon that the find is an important one that appears to date to the period of Judean kings. However, the IAA added, the subject is "sensitive" and "requires serious and responsible handing."

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: archaeology; castle; davidic; godsgravesglyphs; iaa; israel; waronterror
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Would Indiana Jones back off from this "sensitive handling" bozo? Handle it with pickaxes and shovels, and if it derails the surrender of yet another part of our inheritance, all the better.
1 posted on 04/20/2013 1:59:51 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

A castle? Could it be The Temple?


2 posted on 04/20/2013 2:02:09 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

Impossible. That’s in Jerusalem.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 2:03:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping for GGG


4 posted on 04/20/2013 2:04:24 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Eleutheria5

Point taken. Thanks!


5 posted on 04/20/2013 2:07:25 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Eleutheria5

By ‘capital’ they mean the top of a column.

I have no idea what “temple of castle” means, but this seems to be a royal palace in south Jerusalem rather than the expected location in the north of the city.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 2:07:34 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Eleutheria5
While I am well aware of the problems and trouble that would ensue, I really would love to see this structure razed.  photo Domeontherock_zps63ac2ced.jpeg
7 posted on 04/20/2013 2:08:15 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Liberals would like to see Israel handed over to the Palestinians, but who do they think built these structures thousands of years ago? Where do they think Jews originally came from if they think they “stole” the land?


8 posted on 04/20/2013 2:11:33 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: jjotto

Probably meant temple OR castle.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 2:15:44 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Makes sense.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 2:20:01 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Zeneta
I really would love to see this structure razed.

Oh, it will be.

11 posted on 04/20/2013 2:28:19 PM PDT by Never on my watch (GALT)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

A pig and an ape had a special feeling for one another, and then...


12 posted on 04/20/2013 2:29:01 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Zeneta

Of course, that would bring about another wave of hysteria to the Muslim world. Something that comes very easily to them, it seems. Look what they do when the Pope quotes some ancient emperor, or a cartoon depicting Mohammed is printed. Even if something like an earthquake brought it down, Israel would be blamed, because there is a little-known conspiracy theory that they’re developing an earthquake machine to do just that. That said, this doesn’t stop Muslims from desecrating the holy sites of other religions. The dome of the rock is in itself a desecration, and should be razed.


13 posted on 04/20/2013 2:32:30 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I would not be surprised if Iran covertly destroyed it.

On a side note: I would be curious to know, if I posted the same thing on DU, KOS or Huff post, how many viewers needed to look up the definition of “Razed” ? Or would they consider it a “slang” of “raised”, which is the complete opposite.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 2:42:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta
interesting thing about really old buildings on this planet, there are very few of them. That's why even people who are disgusted by the existence of a really old building will usually step forward to protect it from destruction.

Repainting and decorating are common but, in general, we don't knock them down unless we are crazy people in India. The muzzies and hindus do this to each other all the time.

15 posted on 04/20/2013 2:42:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Telepathic Intruder
in reading through the history of the building, when it was put up there wasn't anything there except what had already been there all along ~ no other building stood above the level of the platform.

So, how did the erection of that building desecrate anything, unless you believe ruins left behind by Roman armies are to be treated as sacred.

Remember, when the time comes the place will be properly prepared.

16 posted on 04/20/2013 2:45:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Sympathy for the devil.


17 posted on 04/20/2013 2:45:29 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Israelis need to start resorting to violence and armed occupation of sites like this, the temple Mount and the cave of the Patriarchs to ensure Jewish dominion over them.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 2:45:35 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Telepathic Intruder
The Arabs will tell you the blond ones came from Europe. of course that's nonsense ~ there were still blond people in North Africa and Yemen when the first Arab wandered out of the Rub al Khalid with a complaint about too much dust and too little water.

There are still blonds throughout the ME, just not as many of them as in Finland, but then again, how many places have that many blonds.

19 posted on 04/20/2013 2:47:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
There are still blonds throughout the ME, just not as many of them as in Finland, but then again, how many places have that many blonds.

The Phi Mus at Gainesville maybe.

20 posted on 04/20/2013 2:54:02 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Zeneta

Ha. I saw the Lord of the Rings movies in theater. When Gandalf said “Sauron will raze Minus Tirith to the ground”, I heard someone say “how can you raise something to the ground?


21 posted on 04/20/2013 2:55:03 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: muawiyah
"how did the erection of that building desecrate anything"

It was well-known at the time the significance of the location, which is exactly why an Islamic temple was built there. Muslims have a traditional habit of building mosques over the holy sites of other religions, in order to forcibly replace them.
22 posted on 04/20/2013 3:00:15 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Sirius Lee

Arabs darkened themselves because of the slave trade


23 posted on 04/20/2013 3:05:18 PM PDT by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“how can you raise something to the ground?....By unmaking a liberal?


24 posted on 04/20/2013 3:06:43 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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25 posted on 04/20/2013 3:09:40 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I’m sure the person that made that comment has never given it a second thought.

We are living in a world where ignorance is not only accepted it is becoming expected.

Smart kids and intelligent public figures are ridiculed for having knowledge and actually thinking it makes a difference.


26 posted on 04/20/2013 3:13:42 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta

I’m paraphrasing a little. It was more like “Raise it to the ground”? But, they hardly even teach proper English in school anymore. Kids entering college these days spell text-message style. You know, with “u” meaning you, and “2” meaning to.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 3:25:30 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
You are assuming an awful big lot there ~ about what people knew of the significance of anything. Ignance was rife!

Now, about the last previous guy to build something at Temple Mount ~ wasn't that Herod the Great? He wasn't exactly Jewish either ~ or are we now to count Herod among the Jews.

There's now a building there over the site of the altar and I believe that building is about 1300 years old ~ which is really old as buildings go.

28 posted on 04/20/2013 3:28:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sirius Lee

OUT OF A BOTTLE OF BLEACH ~


29 posted on 04/20/2013 3:37:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The general populace was probably replete with ignorance, but those who built the temple must have known what they were doing. What holier site is there for Jews? None. Am I making assumptions? Probably, but I would need to be convinced otherwise if they’re wrong. It still doesn’t change my opinion that this is a Jewish holy site, not a Muslim one. Jerusalam isn’t even mentioned in the Quran.


30 posted on 04/20/2013 3:38:15 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I have a college age daughter that deals with this everyday.

Thankfully, she has exceptional verbal skills and actually listens to what people say.

What have the Brit’s ever done for us anyway ?

/s


31 posted on 04/20/2013 3:43:59 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta

What have the Brit’s ever done for us? I happen to like Earl Grey tea, and I appreciate how they bailed us out during WWII /s


32 posted on 04/20/2013 3:49:15 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: muawiyah

My God is better than your God, and I’ll prove it by destroying your idols ?

See, it’s gone.

My God is better.


33 posted on 04/20/2013 3:50:18 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: lonevoice; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks lonevoice.

Based on the spelling errors, probably a blog entry.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


34 posted on 04/20/2013 4:08:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Wow!


35 posted on 04/20/2013 4:37:29 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: jjotto

“....had known about the (side) for 18 months.”

Whatever it is they knew about it for a long time. Jibberish!


36 posted on 04/20/2013 4:40:24 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Is this a free country or what?)
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To: Zeneta
Does't really work with God ~ might work with some gods ~ just pick up their statues and smash them.

Many times the successor religion has folks who adhered to the old religion and they may well have thought of the old religious facilities as being as much a community meeting place as anything.

So they'll protect it with a bit of redecoration, and all is good.

Not everybody knocks down the old ~ in fact all over Europe there are Protestant churches that were formerly Catholic churches, and other than rearranging the altar about 500 years before the Catholics finally came around to the correct point of view on that weighty matter, you'll find nothing much at all has changed in the buildings.

Recent work at the kaaba in Mecca demonstrated that the original hindu temple aspect of the structure is still sufficiently visible to the trained archaeologists that they were able to prove that's what it was ~ but without the snakes.

Then, there's the church attendance records of the Moslems themselves. Pakistani islamic researchers have determined that for the first 300 years of Islam (and that covers the period when the building in question was built) Moslems attended Christian churches ~ and appear to have not made a big deal of it.

No doubt there's more work to do on that issue, but it's interesting that there's any evidence at all that they, themselves, in the early period, when they are supposed to be so wild and wooly, didn't consider it a big difference!.

Which raises the fifth issue in the debate, why did the sultan build the building ~ what was he thinking ~ not what do the paleos today think, but what did he think. Further, if there'd been a Jewish authority in Jerusalem at the time, what would they have done.

The point I"m making is that the ancients were probably not fighting our battles, but their own, and for the most part, there in the early stages of the Dark Ages, that'd be surviving!

But, if you want to tear it down, do it, but that ticket is yours ~ not the ancestors.

37 posted on 04/20/2013 5:00:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Zeneta

In this day and age you just might. YIPPY


38 posted on 04/20/2013 5:01:33 PM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
i think they call it Al Quds in Arabic but that's neither here nor there. It is sufficiently remarkable to me that in an age of almost totally abject poverty some fellow thought to build a sturdy cover for the Altar.

Maybe it meant the same to him as it does to you!

39 posted on 04/20/2013 5:03:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Bingo


40 posted on 04/20/2013 5:11:41 PM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: muawiyah

You need to dig into history a bit more. T I is right on target.


41 posted on 04/20/2013 5:17:24 PM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Main Entry: raze Pronunciation: \ˈrāz\Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): razed; raz·ing Etymology: alteration of rase Date: 1536 1 a archaic : ERASE b : to scrape, cut, or shave off 2 : to destroy to the ground : DEMOLISH 'raze an old building' — raz·er noun
42 posted on 04/20/2013 5:24:14 PM PDT by machman
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To: Zeneta

Looks like a big gilded pimple.


43 posted on 04/20/2013 5:35:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: machman

In 1219 the walls of the city were razed


44 posted on 04/20/2013 5:45:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

A temple that size is hardly just a cover. Anyway, you may be correct that they just decided to build a temple on the biggest open ground they could find. But it doesn’t erase the fact that this is a Jewish holy site. To Islam it is conquered territory, Renamed Al-Quds in order to rewrite history and mis-identify it. The same way they renamed Constantinople, or Spain. Nevertheless, they will go ape-**** if it’s rightfully torn down because it doesn’t belong there. Pardonne moi the language.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 5:59:18 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: null and void

>> “A castle? Could it be The Temple?” <<

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More likely David or Solomon’s abode.


46 posted on 04/20/2013 6:02:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Telepathic Intruder; muawiyah

>> “how did the erection of that building desecrate anything” <<

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It is built over the altar on which Abraham had tied Isaac to sacrifice him, had a goat not appeared.


47 posted on 04/20/2013 6:06:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Guess that keeps it covered ~ BTW, I'm not much given to thinking of anything as a holy spot, or sacred, but I do appreciate historic preservation ~ or at least a sign denoting some historic event.

Just recently a bunch of yahoos in Illinois knocked down Ronald Reagan's boyhood home ~

48 posted on 04/20/2013 6:22:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Eleutheria5

Given that Muslims deny the very existence of the Davidic kingdom, they and those Jews of the Enlightenment who also treat the Bible as a book of fables, one can understand how some would keep it quiet. If the Bible is history, then what the others believe is fable.


49 posted on 04/20/2013 7:05:07 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Until 1943, they did almost all the fighting and dying to keep Hitler at Bay, they and the Ruskies.


50 posted on 04/20/2013 7:11:25 PM PDT by RobbyS
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