Skip to comments.Monday Bombshell: Evidence So Damning It Will “Determine the Fate of Our Nation” (Glenn Beck)
Posted on 04/20/2013 8:50:21 PM PDT by blam
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With the help of Dems everywhere, Obama could do away with someone on live TV, say he didn't do it (you know, you-didn't-build-that kinda' stuff), and the media would cover for him.
The fbi has done just that in past terrorist actions. As an example, the first bombing of the WTC was being steered bny the fbi until right at the last when they backed out.
Wow. Wheels within wheels. That would explain the guys in the khakis and the sniffer dogs.
Bingo! If there were a video of him robbing a bank, the media would just say: “He was trying to redistribute wealth a little more directly”.
He said he already sent copies of it out to the major news players already, but they are sitting on it apparently.....
You are 100% correct MM. Bush counter terrorism czar, Richard Clarke, confirmed it in his interview to Vanity Fair. Colin Powell on MTP about those flights said this: “There was no sneaking out of the Country; that the flights were well known, and they were coordinated within the Government”.
If Beck has some dirt on Obama, the Media will consider it a feather in his cap, and a resume enhancer.
Then you have not been watching his armies, like Media Matters.
~~~Monday Bombshell: Evidence So Damning It Will Determine the Fate of Our Nation~~~
OK, bring forth this evidence on Monday.
Was working earlier
Anyway he has pictures of the three Saudis at the race along with some interesting comments ... they can not find the name of the other one who they want to deport (I kind of wonder if it is a bin landen )...
The one in the hospital has lots of terrorist ties in his family and some of them are locked up right now in Gitmo
Just heard....The story you always wanted to know but were afraid to ask for.
The Tsarnaev brothers were double agents who decoyed US into terror trap
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis April 20, 2013, 4:39 PM (GMT+02:00)
Tags: Boston bombing attack Caucasus Saudi Arabia Terrorism FBI Intelligence
TTamerlan Tsarnaev killed. His brother Dzhokhar captured
The big questions buzzing over Boston Bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev have a single answer: It emerged in the 102 tense hours between the twin Boston Marathon bombings Monday, April 15 which left three dead, 180 injured and a police officer killed at MIT - and Dzohkhars capture Friday, April 19 in Watertown.
The conclusion reached by debkafiles counterterrorism and intelligence sources is that the brothers were double agents, hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian. Instead, the two former Chechens betrayed their mission and went secretly over to the radical Islamist networks. By this tortuous path, the brothers earned the dubious distinction of being the first terrorist operatives to import al Qaeda terror to the United States through a winding route outside the Middle East the Caucasus.
This broad region encompasses the autonomous or semi-autonomous Muslim republics of Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, North Ossetia and Karachyevo-Cherkesiya, most of which the West has never heard of. Moscow however keeps these republics on a tight military and intelligence leash, constantly putting down violent resistance by the Wahhabist cells, which draw support from certain Saudi sources and funds from the Riyadh government for building Wahhabist mosques and schools to disseminate the state religion of Saudi Arabia.The Saudis feared that their convoluted involvement in the Caucasus would come embarrassingly to light when a Saudi student was questioned about his involvement in the bombng attacks while in a Boston hospital with badly burned hands.
They were concerned enough to send Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saudi al-Faisal to Washington Wednesday, April 17, in the middle of the Boston Marathon bombing crisis, for a private conversation with President Barack Obama and his national security adviser Tom Donilon on how to handle the Saudi angle of the bombing attack.
That day too, official Saudi domestic media launched an extraordinary three-day campaign. National and religious figures stood up and maintained that authentic Saudi Wahhabism does not espouse any form of terrorism or suicide jihadism and the national Saudi religion had nothing to do with the violence in Boston. No matter what the nationality and religious of the perpetrators, they are terrorists and deviants who represent no one but themselves.
Prince Saud was on a mission to clear the 30,000 Saudi students in America of suspicion of engaging in terrorism for their country or religion, a taint which still lingers twelve years after 9/11. He was concerned that exposure of the Tsarnaev brothers connections with Wahhabist groups in the Caucasus would revive the stigma.The Tsarnaevs’ recruitment by US intelligence as penetration agents against terrorist networks in southern Russia explains some otherwise baffling features of the event:
1. An elite American college in Cambridge admitted younger brother Dzhokhar and granted him a $2,500 scholarship, without subjecting him to the exceptionally stiff standard conditions of admission. This may be explained by his older brother Tamerlan demanding this privilege for his kid brother in part payment for recruitment.
2. When in 2011, a foreign government (Russian intelligence) asked the FBI to screen Tamerlan for suspected ties to Caucasian Wahhabist cells during a period in which they had begun pledging allegiance to al Qaeda, the agency, it was officially revealed, found nothing incriminating against him and let him go after a short interview.
He was not placed under surveillance. Neither was there any attempt to hide the fact that he paid a long visit to Russia last year and on his return began promoting radical Islam on social media. Yet even after the Boston marathon bombings, when law enforcement agencies, heavily reinforced by federal and state personnel, desperately hunted the perpetrators, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was never mentioned as a possible suspect
3. Friday, four days after the twin explosions at the marathon finishing line, the FBI released footage of Suspect No. 1 in a black hat and Suspect No. 2 in a white hat walking briskly away from the crime scene, and appealed to the public to help the authorities identify the pair.
We now know this was a charade. The authorities knew exactly who they were. Suddenly, during the police pursuit of their getaway car from the MIT campus on Friday, they were fully identified. The brother who was killed in the chase was named Tamerlan, aged 26, and the one who escaped, only to be hunted down Saturday night hiding in a boat, was 19-year old Dzhokhar.
Our intelligence sources say that we may never know more than we do today about the Boston terrorist outrage which shook America and most strikingly, Washington - this week. We may not have the full story of when and how the Chechen brothers were recruited by US intelligence as penetration agents any more than we have got to the bottom of tales of other American double agents who turned coat and bit their recruiters.
Here is just a short list of some of the Chechen brothers two-faced predecessors:
In the 1980s, an Egyptian called Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed offered his services as a spy to the CIA residence in Cairo. He was hired, even though he was at the time the official interpreter of Ayman al-Zuwahiri, then Osama bin Ladens senior lieutenant and currently his successor.
He accounted for this by posing as a defector. But then, he turned out to be feeding al Qaeda US military secrets. Later, he was charged with Al Qaedas 1998 bombings of US embassies in Nairobi and Dar es-Salaam. On Dec. 30, 2009, the Jordanian physician Humam Khalil al-Balawi, having gained the trust of US intelligence in Afghanistan as an agent capable of penetrating al Qaedas top ranks, detonated a bomb at a prearranged rendezvous in Kost, killing the four top CIA agents in the country.
Then, there was the French Muslim Mohamed Merah. He was recruited by French intelligence to penetrate Islamist terror cells in at least eight countries, including the Caucasus. At the end of last year, he revealed his true spots in deadly attacks on a Jewish school in Toulouse and a group of French military commandoes. The debate has begun over the interrogation of the captured Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarmayev when he is fit for questioning after surgery for two bullet wounds and loss of blood. The first was inflicted during the police chase in which his brother Tamerlan was killed.An ordinary suspect would be read his rights (Miranda) and be permitted a lawyer. In his case, the public safety exemption option may be invoked, permitting him to be questioned without those rights, provided the interrogation is restricted to immediate public safety concerns. President Barack Obama is also entitled to rule him an enemy combatant and so refer him to a military tribunal and unrestricted grilling. According to debkafiles counter terror sources, four questions should top the interrogators’ agenda:
a) At what date did the Tsarnaev brothers turn coat and decide to work for Caucasian Wahhabi networks?
b) Did they round up recruits for those networks in the United States - particularly, among the Caucasian and Saudi communities?
c) What was the exact purpose of the Boston Marathon bombings and their aftermath at MIT in Watertown?
d) Are any more terrorist attacks in the works in other American cities?
The “Rest of the story” the news media and our government forgot to tell you....rather interesting, wouldn’t you say? Within the context of the above story it makes a little more sense when as told by the news media the mother of these two claimed that they were “Set up” by the US government.
Seriously, the First Lady traveled across states to visit a terror suspect in the hospital???? Serious?? Did that happen??
Cause its my birthday.
I suppose we should have sent them all to Guantanamo?
The only remotely possible reason the media MIGHT turn on
Obama is if some of college papers turned up. No, I don’t
mean papers that would reveal his true place of birth nor his
scholarship deficiencies. No, the only possible way the media
would turn on the Bamster is if someone exposed a research
paper he had written (or forged) which was critical of the
late, great newsman icon, Edward R Murrow. To media morons,
Murrow is a “Founding Father”.
Thanks for your post ...Its always good to set things straight
Keep reading. He got his arse handed to him. Serves him right for using the liberal couple known as “Snopes” for a source.
[[Oh, pray tell. What is it that Beck will tell me that I dont already KNOW, that NOTHING will be done about it, once its known anyway?]]
He’s gonna tell us dear leader is evil and that soros funds his campaign after which the media will .... crickets.... and the right will ... more crickets... DO NOTHING!
Our administration LIED TO US for nearly a month about Benghazi- Schrillary came on scene and infront of the world said “What Difference does it make” and the media DID NOTHING- the Right DID NOTHING! Our administration flat out LIED to us- over and over and over again! and yet he’s still president- Had it been a republican, he woudl have been impeached and removed from office- Our administration has flat out attacked Christians and Catholics- He’s bullied the supreme court, He’s violated our rights- and the media nd right DO NOTHING! except take it lying down-
Gee- I’m so anxious for monday to come
- Okaz, the same prominent Saudi newspaper, that published photos of Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi in the hospital after the Boston marathon bombings, is now reporting that the Saudi national was also visited by the first lady of the United States, Michelle Obama during his hospital stay. ... In light of recent reports that Alharbi was scheduled for deportation on national security grounds, the first ladys visit takes on much added significance if those reports are true. We already know that the Alharbi clan consists of multiple Al-Qaeda members. This would seem to bolster the claims of scheduled deportation,...
I “call” your thought for prayers for Glenn and his heartfelt love of our country. Albeit, Glenn rides a fine line between “Carnnie” and “truthsayer”, I think he means well.
That said, I raise you prayers for any believing a Bush can save our great country.
The country will not support and cannot survive another of “them” or the likes of the McShameGramnesty mooks pretending to be a conservative! Tis time to move on to fresh, untathered talent.
Beck said they had until Monday evening to come clean, so that means he won’t tell what he has until Tuesday.
The Left attacked Bush for doing too little ....no doing to much ...no doing too little too late ....no doing too much too early....
In 2001 we were not a police state that could forcibly detain people
The fact that Freepers buy into so much anti Bush nonsense tells me that FR has lost its way.
Ping A ding
....and united to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand.
Could you put some of that into coherent English please? I have no idea what you’re saying.
English Translation :
In regard to your post #119
I assumed you were referring to Mr Ray76 posts at #84 and #91
In which he referenced Senator Frank Lautenberg and an MSNBC screed to say Bush helped the Saudis
I find neither of these sources credible and I regard the entire matter as pure BDS
Beck’s ratings must need a boost.
There was also the post about it being in the Congressional record of the 9-11 Commission. And a couple of other posts. You can fall back on that red herring BDS association if you want to but it’s still a fact.
To put it another way :
“The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the fathers iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the sons iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.”
It was well known that Osama came from his wealthy family....
Just because some Saudis were related to Bin Laden did not make them guilty of anything ....at least not under out system.
Anti-Bush Non-sense? Paaaleeez!
Just know the lack of faith, or support and or the will for another Bush runs deep; the list is far too long!! Notice, I’m not bashing or being hateful!
Good hearted, kind, caring and admirable traits with a love of country, I do not and will not ever question. But, the Bushs supplanted their ideas and values over the populace, just as the Zero/Joke has!
Our beloved country crumbles whether you disagree or not. A great wave of worker/citizen discontent and deterioration comes from the same “crap, everyday politics produced by your beloved shrubs.
The inaction and betrayal of our elected haunts only one party the party that kneels!
Time to move forward! No time for the old, dead weight of the GOPe!
Please don’t start a bidding war with me. Been a long time since I fished in salt water!
What the heck does that have to do with anything?
Spoken like a true BDSer
Forgive me, BDSer?
Just iImagine Your Uncle Jack Tiger Eye blows up Philadelphia .....
.Should the government detain YOU?
Maybe YOU had something to do with it
After all we now know that a Tiger Eye is BAD
That is the heart of it and we have something (a little left) called freedom.
If you want to say Bush did something wrong by letting the Saudi’s fly back to Saudi Arabia...you are not thinking clearly
If you cant understand that I cant help you
Bush Derangement Syndrome ....seek treatment
Hardly a BDSer. However, I do not find your Bush buddy or your politics favorable to mine.
BTW...Stop whining and bitching when someone disagrees with you about the shrubs, Mr. Rove!! Make you so, so lib like..
First rule in strategic ultimatums.
Don’t make them with time deadlines.
Freeing Atlanta, would be a good start.
Bush deserves the intense flak coming his way... and I voted for the guy and his Pop. Really loved learning that Laura was a closet lib on so many issues... after they were out of office. Would have been nice to know the truth before I voted for her husband.
Been part of this forum longer than most ... I've heard (read) this type of BS over the years numerous times ... nothing ever comes of it ... not once that I recall.
Letting the Saudis fly back to Saudi Arabia when nobody in the US was otherwise allowed to fly at all is indeed problematic.
Thank you. Well said.
Funny how the Beck threads bring out so many trolls.
I never missed Beck’s old Fox show. And that was before we had DVR. I have not yet recovered from his exit.
I think Beck’s departure was around the time that Fox got some sort of warning. They have been veering left ever since. I watch almost nothing on Fox anymore.
Oh, yeah, “The Five”— I watched it once. What a waste.