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U.S. Might Have More Oil Resources Than Saudi Arabia, But...
Forbes ^ | april 29th 2012 | Robert Rapier

Posted on 04/21/2013 6:15:23 AM PDT by Laurent.w

Some claim that the U.S. has hundreds of billions or even trillions of barrels of oil waiting to be produced if bureaucrats will simply stop blocking development.

But the Green River formation is the source of talk of those enormous oil resources — larger than those of Saudi Arabia —.

The energy requirements — plus the fact that oil shale production requires a lot of water in a very dry environment — have kept oil shale commercialization out of reach for over 100 years.

It is not at all clear that even at $100 oil the shale in the Green River formation will be commercialized to produce oil, although a number of companies are working on it and will continue to do so.

Thus, my prediction is that despite having an oil shale resource that may indeed be far greater than the oil resources of Saudi Arabia, the reserve will continue to be close to zero for the foreseeable future because there are still many technical hurdles to overcome to realize a scalable, commercially viable process.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: colorado; oil; saudi; shale
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1 posted on 04/21/2013 6:15:23 AM PDT by Laurent.w
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To: Laurent.w
If there's *that* much oil *that* close to the Pacific (isn't the Green River somewhere near Seattle?) then something can surely be done.
2 posted on 04/21/2013 6:31:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Laurent.w

Oopps...Colorado/Utah...not that close to the Pacific.


3 posted on 04/21/2013 6:33:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Laurent.w

I guess we shouldn’t try to get that oil then. Too hard.


4 posted on 04/21/2013 6:36:12 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Laurent.w
First you have your oil and sometimes oil can be heavy and viscous. Then you have your bitumen, sometimes called tar, which is produced in Alberta Tar Sands. It is so viscous that it has to be diluted before it can be shipped, which is called diluted bitumen or dilbit. For example ship the light crude produced in the Bakken to Alberta to dilute the Alberta Tar oil into dilbit so that it can shipped down the Keystone pipeline.

Then you have your kerogen found in the Greenriver formation in the US west, Israel/Palestine, east europe, and Mongolia. This can be "cooked" into oil and then transported by conventional methods.

5 posted on 04/21/2013 6:37:08 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Gay State Conservative

You can pipeline oil all the way down from Alaska to the west coast!
Hey rocket sceintist you can pipe line water as well!


6 posted on 04/21/2013 6:39:04 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Laurent.w

We have the oil. We can get it out and process it now. The water needed can now be recycled. We lack the political will to do it.


7 posted on 04/21/2013 6:40:49 AM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Ben Ficklin

The USA has more carbon based energy than anywhere else in the world. When you drive in the oil shale areas of Colorado you can see oil seeping out of layers of rocks. Before fracking The Denver post had an article on drilling wells and removing oil by heat for about $35 a barrel. Now with fracking and horizontal drilling and other new techniques it could be at least as cheap except for the EPA and anti oil government policies. I don’t remember the figures but it seemed to be 36B barrels of oil.


8 posted on 04/21/2013 6:46:56 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
"Too hard"?

Too expensive. There are two techniques, Freeze Wall and Toe to Heel. Do a google search with the keywords Green River Freeze Wall.

Eventually, after Bakken, Eagle Ford, etc go dry and price goes up, then the Green River will be economically reasonable and technically feasible.

This is no different from the Bakken, Eagle Ford, or the Alberta Tar Sands. 10-12 years ago there was very little profit to be made producing there. But, under Bush, the price of oil quadrupled and there is very good profit to be made in those places

9 posted on 04/21/2013 6:51:19 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

What policies did Bush implement (that Obama has obviously carried on) to make the global price of oil explode like that?


10 posted on 04/21/2013 6:54:16 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Laurent.w

“The estimated amount of oil in place (the resource) varies widely, with some suggesting that there could be 400 billion barrels of oil in the Bakken. Because of advances in fracking technology, some of the resource has now been classified as reserves (the amount that can be technically and economically produced). However, the reserve is a very low fraction of the resource at 2 to 4 billion barrels (although some industry estimates put the recoverable amount as high as 20 billion barrels or so). For reference, the U.S. consumes a billion barrels of oil in about 52 days, and the world consumes a billion barrels in about 11 days.”

There’s your key takeaway. We’d probably be wiser to save it for a rainy day.


11 posted on 04/21/2013 7:02:38 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Paraclete
Green River formations weigh in at about 3 TRILLION barrels ....

of which 1 T is recoverable with todays technology....

As an insight, 1 Trillion barrels is about equal to the known world's reserves of oil.

12 posted on 04/21/2013 7:15:43 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave

....and don’t forget the minor 15 billion barrels recently identified in the Monterey Shale in CA.


13 posted on 04/21/2013 7:17:33 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
"What policies"

An interventionist foreign policy in the mideast.

Now, Obama has intervened because the liberal interventionists are influential in his administration but he hasn't militarily intervened, except for Libya because the liberal interventionists are also multilateralists.

But, if and when the bombing of Iran begins..............

Keep in mind that the NeoCon Republicans and the liberal interventionist democrats are foreign policy idealists and they want to intervene for idealistic reasons such as humanitarianism, nation building, and spreading democracy. They are opposed by the realists aka pragmatists who say we shouldn't intervene for idealistic reasons, only if it is in the US's interest.

14 posted on 04/21/2013 7:19:40 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Laurent.w

We probably can’t use it because it is collateral for all the debt we are issuing.

Maybe our mineral rights have been sold.


15 posted on 04/21/2013 7:21:43 AM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Future Snake Eater
What policies did Bush implement (that Obama has obviously carried on) to make the global price of oil explode like that?

Devaluation of the dollar.

16 posted on 04/21/2013 7:40:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: thackney

Ping


17 posted on 04/21/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Laurent.w

Guess we are saving it for when they run out. I have friends like that.


18 posted on 04/21/2013 8:21:03 AM PDT by commonguymd (The enemy within is our MSM. War starts there imo. twitter @commonguymd)
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To: SampleMan
Devaluation of the dollar.

How? Deficit spending? If that was the case, gas should be $40/gallon by now.

19 posted on 04/21/2013 8:25:06 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Devaluation. Dollar buys less, so price goes up. Horrible world economy has kept price low, or dollar drop would be giving us $200 oil.


20 posted on 04/21/2013 8:30:04 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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