To: Altariel; soycd
As I told you in the other post ...people will be more accepting to the 'struggle' of the Chechens (and Palestinians for that matter) when they give up terrorism, Wahhabi-esque Islam, and association with terrorist groups (in the case of the Chechens Al Qaeda). When that happens. Scratch that ...if that happens, then people will be far more likely to lend an ear to their 'struggle.' Until then please do not expect much sympathy. The Russians could raze down Grozny afresh, the Israelis could bulldoze a baker's dozen of Palestinian dwellings, and the US could shoot Hellfires from Predators are jihadi settlements in North Waziristan ...and no one will blink. Why? Because most people understand that those same Chechens/Hamas/AlQaeda (what's the difference anyways ....especially between the Chechen 'freedom fighters' and AlQaeda since they have been fighting together for years now) that are screaming 'help' would kill you in an instant.
posted on 04/21/2013 11:08:18 PM PDT
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Islamists are very good at infiltrating and converting mass movements. Neither the Palestinian nor the Chechen independence movements were initially Islamist. The PLO was mostly secular and even had some Christians, but they (Fattah) are now marginalized by Hammas. Similarly, Chechens weren't especially pious Muslims until their civil war started in earnest.
Along the same lines, a lot of uprisings against dictators in the Middle East started out as secular and "democratic," only to be hijacked by better-organized and armed Islamist groups.
The lesson to be learned by the more sane and secular "freedom fighters" is not to make deals with Islamist devils if you want to avoid being tarred withe the same terrorist brush. Both Chechens and Palestinians have failed to do so.
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