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Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform (March 19, 2013 Article)
LATimes.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | Michael A. Memoli

Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; VinL; ex-snook; sport; INVAR; ejonesie22; PieterCasparzen; Colonel_Flagg; Washi; ...

Rand Paul Amnesty Ping!


2 posted on 04/21/2013 1:53:13 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rubio is worn out its Rand’s turn again.


3 posted on 04/21/2013 1:55:20 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: SoConPubbie

How’s this for reform — round up the criminal invaders and toss their collective asses out of the country.


4 posted on 04/21/2013 1:57:10 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: SoConPubbie

Dont ever talk about being against a growing and increasingly intrusive government again, Rand, because “immigration reform” aka amnesty will guarantee up to 50 million new democrats & customers of the state.


5 posted on 04/21/2013 1:57:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul to Conservatives: “Don’t Fear the Reaper.”


6 posted on 04/21/2013 1:58:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SoConPubbie
outlining a proposal that would grant some form of legal status to the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants

11 million in California? Or nationwide? Other estimates put it 20,000,000-40,000,000. Shouldn't we debate using the real numbers?

It's like how the low information voters believe 24% of the population is homosexual so therefore their agenda items are pressing matters.

7 posted on 04/21/2013 1:58:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SoConPubbie
to embrace the cause of immigration reform

Embrace the cause?

The cause is open borders that the FED continues to be lax in securing.

The cause is failure of the FED to enforce EXISTING laws.

The cause is politicians more interested in representing illegals than in representing their constituents.

The cause is politicians who are getting some kind of payback for ignoring the 70% of Americans opposed to amnesty for illegals.

Support a new shell game bunch of laws that will have securing the border dumped in the trash can 5 minutes after it passes?

Senator Paul, you, like Senator Rubio, are either naive or you are in on the shell game. What do you get out of this legislation, Sentor?
8 posted on 04/21/2013 1:59:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SoConPubbie

Give it a big, big hug and keep repeating, “Americans never have to win an election ever again”.


9 posted on 04/21/2013 1:59:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Amnesty Bill - 800 pages filled with 400 waivers and exemptions for illegal aliens.)
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To: magna carta

Yep. RINO ping pong


10 posted on 04/21/2013 1:59:56 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SoConPubbie

A Paul is stil la Paul, rand or not.


11 posted on 04/21/2013 2:00:08 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: SoConPubbie

To paraphrase Michelle Malkin, why does immigration reform have to be tied to the government’s Constitutional duty to control our boarders?


12 posted on 04/21/2013 2:00:38 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Close and secure the border, and oh yeah shut the F*** up until you get that done! No citizenship for illegal boarder crossers, only an Idiot or traitor rewards invaders!


13 posted on 04/21/2013 2:03:00 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: skeeter

Who knew?

A “certication” is just as good as 3 parallel chain-link fences infilled with razor wire!

Will Clueless Napolitano tell us our border is the “safest ever” before or after the Amnesty Bill is signed?


14 posted on 04/21/2013 2:03:07 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: Arthurio

i disagree. we cannot afford to deport them all.

rather lets round up,fine and imprison the people that hire them.

the illegals will self deport


15 posted on 04/21/2013 2:04:54 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: SoConPubbie

Gee, you’d think that Rubio and Rand would hold off on their appeasing and horribly fatalistic assessments about what to do about an illegal alien problem here that is ALREA
DY covered by dozens of laws already on the books that aren’t being enforced by our enemy, Obama.

Yeah, just join him why don’t you, Marco and Rand? If you two had any actual foresight into the next national election, let alone what your surrender-like attitude for our national sovereignty will do, you’d probably wait a year or two. But, me? I’m glad you two did it now.

Glad that I won’t have to be strung along with your fake conservative bullshit and excuses and all just to find out in 2015 YOU, like McCain and Romney and whoever else thinks hispanics are the key to winning, to get pissed off and have nowhere to go. Rest assured, neither one of you two effers will get a dime from me - or my vote should that opportunity arise.


16 posted on 04/21/2013 2:04:55 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Theodore R.

Insane, absolutely suicidally insane.

Rand’s 5 minutes are over.


17 posted on 04/21/2013 2:05:20 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: SoConPubbie

No. No new laws. We already have all the laws in place, and nobody enforcing them. What is the point of new laws?

Rubio and Paul and others never clearly explained that.


18 posted on 04/21/2013 2:06:10 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Absolutely not, Mr. Paul.

I have had enough.


19 posted on 04/21/2013 2:06:15 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Didn’t take him long to turn in his “Hero of Free Republic” trophy...for the filibuster.


20 posted on 04/21/2013 2:08:56 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Gaffer

No time for them to pay tribute to the victims of the terrorist attack, only to their so called “immigration” bill.

I hope for their political sake Boston has already passed the “anger stage” of this ordeal. It may come back to bite them.


21 posted on 04/21/2013 2:08:57 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: SoConPubbie
Fatal flaw of the Libertarians:

Open Borders = Invasion as a Civil Right

22 posted on 04/21/2013 2:09:32 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: SoConPubbie

It would also be interesting if the law was written in such a way that it would STOP at 11,000,000 Illegals being given Amnesty.

The Dems are LOW-BALLING the number...lying as usual...we need to call them out.


23 posted on 04/21/2013 2:10:33 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: magna carta

Et tu Rand!


24 posted on 04/21/2013 2:10:40 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SoConPubbie.
25 posted on 04/21/2013 2:10:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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“Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform”

Embrace this, Rand Paul.


26 posted on 04/21/2013 2:10:45 PM PDT by glock rocks (No, the game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendy card.)
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Yeah, I think we should embrace immigration reform too.

Reform it to the way it used to be, when we enforced borders, didn’t advertise in Mexico to “Hey, come on up north! We gots lots of free money, goods and services to give you!”.

Re-form it to permit as many LEGAL immigrants that want to go through the paperwork, wait in line, have skills to offer, employers posting a bond for them.

Re-form it to take all the money that the illegals are collecting from the taxpayers, and spend it on some additional immigration clerks to process the applications turned in through our foreign embassies by people who seriously want to become citizens, or have a good mutually beneficial reason to come to the USA temporarily for a few months or a few years.

But reform it the way all the damn politicians and lefty activists? Hell No!


27 posted on 04/21/2013 2:11:33 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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28 posted on 04/21/2013 2:12:21 PM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: RugerMini14

Wheat—chaff. This is the winnowing floor.


29 posted on 04/21/2013 2:14:03 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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Undocumented Democrats get documents Act


30 posted on 04/21/2013 2:14:32 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: SoConPubbie

FURP!!


31 posted on 04/21/2013 2:14:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Amnesty of any kind would be betraying this country, and no true conservative would do this.
32 posted on 04/21/2013 2:15:32 PM PDT by apocalypto
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What we really need is the umgud plan.

No more birthright little welfare citizens
No more public assistance to illegals
No more Earned Icome Credits for illegals

We don’t have to round them up and deport them, just turn off the magnet.


33 posted on 04/21/2013 2:16:16 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: cradle of freedom

Isn’t it ‘funny’ how quickly they switch from T.E.A. to Kool-Aid?


34 posted on 04/21/2013 2:16:49 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: SoConPubbie

I am thinking that conservatives need to start drafting Ted Cruz to run for president in 2016. We should settle on one very soon and it looks like Rubio and Rand have sadly touched the third rail and ought the lies of the Rove Machine.

I don’t understand the republican death wish...never will. All they have to do is stick to their guns and say no immigration bill or debate until the borders are secure and then send out the troops to explain why to the American people. They need to be focussing on taking the fight to Obama and the democrats on a whole host of things. This is doing nothing but enraging the base..that is it. Hispanics are not going to vote for them no matter what unless they are conservative in nature to begin with. This is just stupid.


35 posted on 04/21/2013 2:17:53 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: apocalypto

He said this on Tuesday at a Latino conference at which he presented a prepared speech.

The media is running with it.

Randie is caught.

Bad timing, Bucko.

Good for those conservatives in the fence re RP. Now they know. he’s at the very least using the 11 mil number. A game ender for anyone talking about this. Walk away from that conversation. Better things to do like going to the supermarket, waterproofing boots.

But RP, no.


36 posted on 04/21/2013 2:19:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SoConPubbie

Is that you Obama? How many times are you going to recycle old stale spin? Paul has NOTHING to do with the amnesty being push in Congress right now.


37 posted on 04/21/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: SoConPubbie

He is no better than Marco Rubio. Even the “new model” Repiblicans have no hesitation in destroying the nation to promote their own personal ambitions. Disgusting.


38 posted on 04/21/2013 2:20:47 PM PDT by Piranha
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GOP must change the perception of the party as anti-immigrant.

How about pro-American?

"Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration.”

No they push them away by threatening the welfare state (healthcare and education are the big issues with Hispanics, immigration comes down the list). If they want to win Hispanics they need to give up on tax and spending cuts and support "free" healthcare, higher minimum wage, things like that. Any takers for that?

Remember: the right to remain is the amnesty. Citizenship has nothing to do with it (indeed may not even be something Hispanics care that deeply about once allowed to stay).

Indeed Republican reticence over citizenship is about protecting their jobs from new voters while they threaten yours (and your wages) with new workers. This is driven by fear of the donor class, not fear of the Hispanics

39 posted on 04/21/2013 2:21:24 PM PDT by evilC (Just doing the jobs American's won't ... at the wages they want to pay.)
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To: SoConPubbie

LATimes? March 19, 2013?


40 posted on 04/21/2013 2:23:22 PM PDT by jpsb
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Yeah let’s give all the illegals Amnesty..I mean really..what could possibly go wrong..*cough* Tamerlan Tsarnaev *cough*


41 posted on 04/21/2013 2:23:37 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Arthurio

President had a good plan - catch ‘em, load ‘em on a ship, when it was full take ‘em to Mexico City area; come back and do it again.

We need to do that AND stay on our Congresscritters to stay with the constitution, and make lots of noise about the lack of them doing what WE, THE PEOPLE want them to do!


42 posted on 04/21/2013 2:24:23 PM PDT by momf
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Read it and weep: From the La Times

March 19, 2013|By Michael A. Memoli

WASHINGTON — Sen. Rand Paul is calling for conservatives to embrace the cause of immigration reform, outlining a proposal that would grant some form of legal status to the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants after the federal government has certified that the border is secure.

Paul’s proposal, outlined in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Washington on Tuesday,


43 posted on 04/21/2013 2:24:24 PM PDT by stanne
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Blah, blah, blah, Rubio, Graham, Paul, etc, ad nauseam, and so forth and so on. I am just sick of this. Step #1:

Secure the border:


44 posted on 04/21/2013 2:25:03 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Anyone who calls on conservatives to embrace anything whatever that is contrary to conservative principles ought to simply stop calling. Enough.

Nice filibusters, Rand. Been nice knowing you.


45 posted on 04/21/2013 2:25:43 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: momf

I left out WHICH President! It certainly wasn’t THIS one! It was President Eisenhower!!!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 04/21/2013 2:26:29 PM PDT by momf
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To: jpsb

March 19.

Whose posting this stuff?

WEll, Rand ought to come out with something on this. He’s too close to it anyway.

But this is a dupe.


47 posted on 04/21/2013 2:26:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I don’t believe one damn thing reported by the LA Times or the NY Times either. Occasionally the Washingtom Post reports truth, but LA/NY Times? Never.


48 posted on 04/21/2013 2:27:13 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

I’m hip.

But who’s posting month old articles?


49 posted on 04/21/2013 2:28:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SoConPubbie

Cram it where the sun don’t shine Rand!


50 posted on 04/21/2013 2:30:08 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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