Skip to comments.Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform (March 19, 2013 Article)
Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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Paul web site states Pauls’ position on illegals. Not nearly as strong as I would like on this issue but miles and miles away from Linda, McCrazy and Rubios’ position.
I think the Ron Paul haters have decided to transfer their hatred from the father to the son. It’s a jihadist kindof thing.
There’s that, too.
“how quickly they switch...”
That is one of the most discouraging aspects of this whole thing.
I’ve worked pretty hard for “TEA” party candidates and they all seem to be crapping out.
I fear we are in deep, deep trouble.
Here’s his strategy in a nutshell:
Rand is making noises to sound reasonable.
Rand is going to offer a bunch of amendments which will no doubt be defeated.
Rand will vote against the bill because it’s horrible and will do his best to explain why to hispanics
I’ve followed him since 2009 along with Mike Lee and Ron Johnson.
These guys are solid.
I have faith that he won’t endorse or vote for a bad bill but he’s going to do it in a way to make sure the message gets through that he supports doing something just not this.
Wow, Sen. Paul, I just read last week that you had started a PAC for a 2016 Presidential run, Good Luck with that.
Rand, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Ron johnson, Tim Scott won’t crap out. These guys are solid and i’ve got faith in them.
Some on here like to examine every public statement and scream AMNESTY! when he’s just trying to appeal to hispanics and get the messaging right.
It does not mean he’s going to support this bill unlike Rubio etc.
Just wait and see and have faith.
How long before Ron Paul Jr. says it’s about time that conservatives embrace the homosexual movement and welcome with open arms queer “marriage”. Stay tuned, because it’s coming from fake conservative, but very real libertarian Ron Paul Jr.
That’s not going to happen. Rand is a social conservative and a Baptized member of the Episcopalian Church.
You’re making ridiculous statements...
I don’t know why we just can’t enforce the laws on the books. But I agree we need a new immigration policy. One that blocks Islamists from coming here except in very unusual circumstances. One thing about Paul is he is serious about border enforcement, but with the Rats holding the executive branch I have little hope of enforcement ever happening.
How do you know what his plan is?
Wait and see!
He will probably not vote for this bill.
Pay less attention to newspaper articles and pay more attention to voting records and what he actually does.
Doesn't even pass the laugh test.
We can’t enforce the laws on the books because the Marxist has power for 4 years and won’t do it.
Rand is going to try and get amendments to this bill to give the border governors more of a say in enforcement and that the report to be voted on by congress which means any normalization can be voted down and rejected at a later date.
He likely wont get the amendments through and he’ll be left with a choice: Endorse and vote for a bad bill or vote against it.
I have faith he isnt going to compromise like McCain and Rubio. He will likely vote against it if he doesn’t like it.
The accusations and screaming of RINO etc. is ludicrous when it comes to Rand and I wish Socon would tone it down.
And what’s the answer?
“No. No new laws. We already have all the laws in place, and nobody enforcing them. What is the point of new laws?”
EXACTLY. Man, these two (Rubio & Rand) make me absolutely CRAZY! And WHAT is with MY Paul Ryan voting FOR the Gun Control Bill?
Am I living in Upside Down World, or am I just a low-info voter and don’t know it? Hard to tell who is on which side of what issue, these days! This should not be so hard!
When *I* run this country, sh!t like this WILL NOT STAND!
Hey, where's the *appeal* to Asian and African American's?
Why not appeal to conservatives?
Rand Paul calls for plan to put illegal aliens in a new legal status in which they would become illegal again at any moment the border is declared to be insecure. This makes no sense.
Where are the real leaders of our time?! We are in desperate need!
What, libetarian pissants can't be honest about their intentions?
They can't tell you up front that they're anti-American?
That they are for open borders?
That they are only conservative until they get elected?
That they are for legalized sex slavery, gay marriage, queers in the military, queers in the Boy Scouts, muslim terrorists running loose all over the USA, a foreign policy that requires America just surrender?
That they are dope smoking, livestock molesting, child molesting, commie infiltrators, just waiting until after they get elected to take off their masks?
Wait and see what? We've seen this all before, too many times.
The same freepers that are so upset about this will be imploring us to vote for Rubio or Jeb in 2016.
That's how Jay Leno was describing the new terminology for illegals this past week.
It's pretty sad state of affairs when even a tinseltown liberal like Leno has this scam figured out better than Rand does.
Socon, Rand is not a treacherous RINO scumbag jackass.
He’s one of the most conservative members of the Senate with perfect scores from FreedomWorks, Club4growth and every other group you can imagine.
There are plenty of politicians you apply that label to but not Rand Paul.
When a bill comes to the Senate he’s going to try and amend it. That’s his job as a senator for the people of Kentucky.
He’s going to try and amend it in the best possible way which can get enough votes to achieve his conservative aims.
His idea is to put a break on normalization and link the trigger to a vote of the congress. That means Congress can reject it if they;re not happy with enforcement.
I doubt he will even get this through and will vote against the bill and will behind the scenes to kill it.
But that’s not what he wants the public, the moderates and the independents and hispanics to hear. He wanrs them to know that the GOP is for immigration reform just not this kind.
No actually, he wants the border secured and a vote on Congress every year before anyone gets a visa.
This bill is horrific and it’s coming.
Bear in mind the dems have 55 votes and 4 GOP traitor votes in their back pocket.
There’s not much Rand can do. What do you want him to do? He can’t stop it by himself.
It’s going to be hard to stop it in the House nevemrind in the Senate.
Trust in Rand i’ve supported him and Lee for 4 years and they’ve not let me down and never wavered.
He aint going to start now.
Do we need to pass it to find out what is in it?
So Congress votes every year to grant a special kind of quasi-citizenship? What a terrible idea. Terrible. Rand Paul supports this?
Ye of little faith Socon.
Rand is no dummy. He’s just helped kill gun control and enraged Obama who said “someone” (i,e him) mentioned he was using children as “props”. He didn’t like that.
Have you heard the term “smiling assassin?”.
If Rand doesn’t like this bill he will vote against it and will do all he can to kill it behind the scenes but he won’t say it publicly in fact he’ll be saying the opposite and looking like a pro-immigration reform zealot while he tries to sink it.
These are political machinations.
His capacity to kill this bill is limited considering the 59 votes they already have in the Senate. This thing is going to pass.
He’s trying to take a bad bill and make it better. He will fail leaving a bad bill.
So compare what he wants to the current horrific bill and it looks a bit better.
But it wont get through and we all know that they have the votes to pass what they want.
Plain enough for ya now?!
I still think annexation of Canada and Mexico is the best idea, and then all the way down to Columbia, to include Cuba, Puerto Rico and the rest of the Caribbean. The wealth of all North America in resources and people is unimaginable.
I’d like to apologise to everybody on here, everybody everywhere, for ever supporting Rand Paul. I used to maintain a ‘draft Rand Paul for 2012’ ping list, and I’m sorry. I can’t take this man even seriously enough now to support him for local dog-catcher. Please forgive my poor judgement.
They will do the same thing with a new immigration law.
Start enforcing current immigration law, and we can talk.
Otherwise, sit down and shut up.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Now I’m off to read your post to obama, biden et al ~
I will only embrace deportation reform.
Attempting to avert a horrific bill by introducing a BAD bill makes no sense. Rand Paul what are you thinking?
Where are the great leaders of our time? We need you to stop this madness!
What do you want him to do?
His options are limited.
There’s 59 votes for this trash.
It’s going to pass.
He’s trying to make a bit better. He’ll fail.
Keep the faith.
He’s not like the others at all.
Socon knows this deep down...
Be critical of his public statements by all means but it’s more important what he does and what votes for I think.
Rand, you ignorant slut.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Sounds like we’re going to have zero non-RINOs to choose from in 2016. Unbelievable.
No difference between the major parties anymore. NONE.
I sadly, must agree. This bill will most likely pass. It infuriates me.
But will it not go to the House after that? Can it be killed there? Since the Pubs have decided it’s a great idea...I’ll be curious.
As far as voting records go..I don’t put much credence in them any longer. So much is decided by the politician’s future career in his district/state. And the manipulation of both party’s big wigs.
I hope you are right about Paul. But have become pretty cynical regarding all politicians.
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